Has anyone seen this before, and know of a fix? Does anyone have a drawing of the panniers? I'd like something before I dig into this pannier, a drawing would be great.
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TimATX
I know on my 15 while I have two releases I can not attach the right bag sometimes unless I lift it up just a 1/16 or so of a inch. It seems it does not like the alignment and will not lock back on the bike unless I hold it up just a little. Try moving it around and see if it will close.
Other than that I cant help.
Other than that I cant help.
Yo, Tim... congratulations on getting the bike home and beginning the process... as I read more comments from you I can tell you are going to have a whole lot of fun with this one.
Regarding the pannier... first of all... you may be able to dive into the mechanics of this issue but I strongly suggest you go really slow. The mechanics of the latch are fairly complicated with lots of "fiddly" parts. Be careful
There are many reference on this subject and a google search is your friend. Also you need to get familiar with the Parts Fiche from several parts suppliers... that and you will also want to learn about Beemer Boneyard. They are great guys who will supply maintenance packages (of parts) at very reasonable prices.
Here... this will introduce you to the parts fiche: MAX BMW Motorcycles - BMW Parts & Technical Diagrams - R1200RT 05-09 (K26)
Regarding the pannier... first of all... you may be able to dive into the mechanics of this issue but I strongly suggest you go really slow. The mechanics of the latch are fairly complicated with lots of "fiddly" parts. Be careful
There are many reference on this subject and a google search is your friend. Also you need to get familiar with the Parts Fiche from several parts suppliers... that and you will also want to learn about Beemer Boneyard. They are great guys who will supply maintenance packages (of parts) at very reasonable prices.
Here... this will introduce you to the parts fiche: MAX BMW Motorcycles - BMW Parts & Technical Diagrams - R1200RT 05-09 (K26)
I had a great link with pictures of the complex mechanism ( R1200RT Side Case Latch Assembly), but it looks like the poster took down the pictures. Amazingly, I had the foresight to save the post to a pdf file, so see the attachment.
More interior pictures from a different project here:Bungee Buddy Install on R1200RT Cases
More interior pictures from a different project here:Bungee Buddy Install on R1200RT Cases
Tim
I just got done rebuilding both of my panniers as they were getting sticky and didn't like to latch/un-latch anymore. Actually, I only was going to only do one side, but the after getting completely lost trying to put the first one back together and had to tear into the second one to see how to put the first one back together! About a 1/2 hr later I had both of them apart and still couldn't figure it out.....just twice the fun now!
I eventually got them back together, but it took hrs of study and fiddling to wrap my head around all the moving parts. For what it does, it's a pretty complex mechanism. One of the posts above said to go slow....do it! Take the inside liner out, but before you go any further, two things. 1- take the time to work the mech until you completely understand how it all works. Fight the urge to just tear it apart or you're not going to like the outcome. 2- Pictures....lots of angles of all moving parts....pictures.....pictures....getting the picture??
What I found with mine was that the grease they use attracts fine dust that works it's way into the inside and eventually it gets gummed up. Brake cleaner and then re-greased it all. If you decide to jump into this, take your time...if you get stuck, I can probably give some help from here if you have pictures.
FYI- there is a small stainless steel gear that is operated by that lever you show in your picture.....it almost hidden and is hard to get a picture of before you take it apart. The thing is, it can go back in in 4 different positions....this is the gear that really kicked my butt. It's slightly triangular in shape with teeth on one of the three sides....NOTE how that part comes out! Also, try to note where the teeth go....as in, what tooth goes to what tooth....trust me on this one.
Also, there's small "C" clips the hold the pins for the handle....they get lost....easily. Dropped one on the floor and it took me 45mins to find. Good luck mate.
I just got done rebuilding both of my panniers as they were getting sticky and didn't like to latch/un-latch anymore. Actually, I only was going to only do one side, but the after getting completely lost trying to put the first one back together and had to tear into the second one to see how to put the first one back together! About a 1/2 hr later I had both of them apart and still couldn't figure it out.....just twice the fun now!
I eventually got them back together, but it took hrs of study and fiddling to wrap my head around all the moving parts. For what it does, it's a pretty complex mechanism. One of the posts above said to go slow....do it! Take the inside liner out, but before you go any further, two things. 1- take the time to work the mech until you completely understand how it all works. Fight the urge to just tear it apart or you're not going to like the outcome. 2- Pictures....lots of angles of all moving parts....pictures.....pictures....getting the picture??
What I found with mine was that the grease they use attracts fine dust that works it's way into the inside and eventually it gets gummed up. Brake cleaner and then re-greased it all. If you decide to jump into this, take your time...if you get stuck, I can probably give some help from here if you have pictures.
FYI- there is a small stainless steel gear that is operated by that lever you show in your picture.....it almost hidden and is hard to get a picture of before you take it apart. The thing is, it can go back in in 4 different positions....this is the gear that really kicked my butt. It's slightly triangular in shape with teeth on one of the three sides....NOTE how that part comes out! Also, try to note where the teeth go....as in, what tooth goes to what tooth....trust me on this one.
Also, there's small "C" clips the hold the pins for the handle....they get lost....easily. Dropped one on the floor and it took me 45mins to find. Good luck mate.
Tim
In the attached pic first try to fiddle with part in the red circle. This is the mech that locks/unlocks the latch handle you are showing. Check to make sure all the linkage looks correct. You can work that mech and make sure it is functioning as designed and is working well with the latch. This is a simple thing that can be tried before tearing the mech apart. For instance, if that spring isn't in place like the pictures shows, then you'll have latch issues.
If you have to go further, then look at the spring that the yellow arrow is point at. That little coil spring is wrapped around the end of stem that sticks into the inside of the case from the latch/handle you are showing. Underneath that spring is a flat black plastic pc.....UNDER that plastic pc is the triangle gear you need to be noting. Once you get that plastic pc off, take your time to note ALL the details on how it works....there's a few moving parts that can go back together many ways.....I'm pretty sure I tried them all!
In the attached pic first try to fiddle with part in the red circle. This is the mech that locks/unlocks the latch handle you are showing. Check to make sure all the linkage looks correct. You can work that mech and make sure it is functioning as designed and is working well with the latch. This is a simple thing that can be tried before tearing the mech apart. For instance, if that spring isn't in place like the pictures shows, then you'll have latch issues.
If you have to go further, then look at the spring that the yellow arrow is point at. That little coil spring is wrapped around the end of stem that sticks into the inside of the case from the latch/handle you are showing. Underneath that spring is a flat black plastic pc.....UNDER that plastic pc is the triangle gear you need to be noting. Once you get that plastic pc off, take your time to note ALL the details on how it works....there's a few moving parts that can go back together many ways.....I'm pretty sure I tried them all!
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Thank you all!!! Awesome pdf kraus, so glad you saved it. I appreciate all of the help and tips. Looks like rain today, and the pannier dropped open on the highway this morning, time to dive on in and see if I can get this fixed up.
Tim... I know this sounds crazy but I have to ask... are you CERTAIN the pannier is not locked- while in the open position? Before you dig into the mechanicals... just try to turn the key while the lid is down.
Not entirely sure it can be done but give it a try...
Not entirely sure it can be done but give it a try...
BobbyB26, nice post. I just completed this on my new to me 07 RT. Patience, cleaning, lithium grease.
http://www.classicvelocity.com/2007-bmw-r1200rt/2017/3/19/luggage-and-lots-of-it
http://www.classicvelocity.com/2007-bmw-r1200rt/2017/3/19/luggage-and-lots-of-it
I like BobbyB26's answer the most at this point. If you can just pull the inside shell and work the mechanism you may be able to see what is not functioning before dropping plastic gears all over the work bench.
Very smart advise was given by him!
Me, I am always diving in without knowing how deep the bottom is, I have had a few concussions and a many stitches from this bad habit.
Good luck and let us know.
Very smart advise was given by him!
Me, I am always diving in without knowing how deep the bottom is, I have had a few concussions and a many stitches from this bad habit.
Good luck and let us know.
Tim
If you've gotten into the mech and are trying to check the linkage/alignments, then a good start point is your key mech. Off of the key mech are 2 linkages. There is a short one about 3" long that connects to the main mech and releases the carrying handle so it'll pop up. The longer linkage reaches all the way across and operates the mech so the lid latch handle will pop up. Separate actions for both linkages. Focus on this area before starting to take the mech apart.......once you start in the mech, it's one of those "point of no return" things.....after that, you have to figure it out and get it back together or you'll be sitting with nice pile of interesting parts and pcs that are no longer are usable.
If you do run stuck, get pics of what you've got. That'll be the best approach for us being able to help you from afar. Cheers mate.
If you've gotten into the mech and are trying to check the linkage/alignments, then a good start point is your key mech. Off of the key mech are 2 linkages. There is a short one about 3" long that connects to the main mech and releases the carrying handle so it'll pop up. The longer linkage reaches all the way across and operates the mech so the lid latch handle will pop up. Separate actions for both linkages. Focus on this area before starting to take the mech apart.......once you start in the mech, it's one of those "point of no return" things.....after that, you have to figure it out and get it back together or you'll be sitting with nice pile of interesting parts and pcs that are no longer are usable.
If you do run stuck, get pics of what you've got. That'll be the best approach for us being able to help you from afar. Cheers mate.
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