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I was needing to do this and dreading it. After watching the video I jumped right in and did my bike and was amazed at how much easier it was then I thought. Trickiest part for me was getting drive shaft lined back up to tranny. Thanks jzeiler!!!!
 

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Looks like something I need to put on my "To Do" list. Don't want to have to get into replacing a clutch unnecessarily. What year models are we talking about? Did BMW figure it out and start doing this at the factory on later models?
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No BMW has never acknowledged this procedure. It does not garantee a fail safe clutch either as there are engine and front transmission seals that come into play (this area was dry during my clutch change). All it does is give you an inspection port to see when either the slave or the rear input shaft seal are leaking so you can take steps to fix them before they take out the clutch.
The procedure is the same for all model years.
 

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I have an 05 LT and have viewed these excellent video's and feel comfortable in tackling this job should it be necessary to change the seal at the same time. The question on my mind is if it necessary to do all this work to simply drill the weeping hole? I tend to think that one would have to move the hydrolic unit out of the way and the muffler bracket to get to the area where the hole should be drilled. Most likely this info exists but I don't have much luck searching this site.

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For the clutch slave you pretty much have to follow the videos. In order to gain access to the clutch slave and to pinpoint the right place to drill the hole it all has to come off. Not such a bad job to do though. Just make sure you have the 30 mm window socket in hand before you start the job. Its a must have

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I have an 05 LT and have viewed these excellent video's and feel comfortable in tackling this job should it be necessary to change the seal at the same time. The question on my mind is if it necessary to do all this work to simply drill the weeping hole? I tend to think that one would have to move the hydrolic unit out of the way and the muffler bracket to get to the area where the hole should be drilled. Most likely this info exists but I don't have much luck searching this site.

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I believe the swing arm is in the way and you just can't do it without taking the bike apart..

I would have if I could have gotten away with it...You can do the whole job by yourself in a day and a twelve pack....It's really not difficult, It's just a procedure...

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Doug69 said:
I have an 05 LT and have viewed these excellent video's and feel comfortable in tackling this job should it be necessary to change the seal at the same time. The question on my mind is if it necessary to do all this work to simply drill the weeping hole? I tend to think that one would have to move the hydrolic unit out of the way and the muffler bracket to get to the area where the hole should be drilled. Most likely this info exists but I don't have much luck searching this site.

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You could drill the hole without removing anything major, but I don't recommend it since you don't have a good way to measure just where to drill it. You run the risk of damaging the slave or the rear seal on the tranny if you are off very much. Better to pull it all apart as often I find a weeping tranny seal when I am in there. No bad slaves yet though. Can be done in about 2 hours if you have the right tools and nothing goes wrong.
 

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If you have a leak in the clutch, fluid has to go somewhere. I saw the videos and it took the scariness out of getting to the slave Thanks so much. However when I took the slave off there was not enough fluid to make up for what was gone from the reservoir.
Where else would it leak and would I see it show somewhere?
Sorry if this sounds like a novice question this is my first bmw had if for a week and already having clutch issue on first real check out drive. had to drive it back home about 70 miles without a clutch, oh what fun!!
My question is this where could the fluid go?
If it gets by the shaft seal at the clutch slave I obviously replace the seal but do I have to get to the clutches to get the fluid out of there? I will also replace the slave or should I? How do you know for sure its bad?
I hope I explained my dilemma correctly! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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If the fluid was brake fluid then the slave should be changed as well as the oil seal in the transmission. If it was oil from the transmission and it got on the slave, the slave should be changed as the fluids and seals are not compatible. If you pulled the release rod out and there was no fluid on it then you main leak is else where. Either along one of the lines or at either end.
 

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John,

Thanks for taking the mystery out of this procedure. Now to add this to the to-do list.
 

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Thanks for the reply! There was some fluid in the slave cylinder hole when I pulled it out but the shaft didn't really seem wet. The fluid didn't have a smell that I could tell. Though I did think I smelled tranny fluid somewhere, when I put my finger in the fluid and tried to smell it I got nothing I could tell.
I found the slave cylinder for it on the beemer bonyard site but can't find the seal.
Do you know a good place online I can order it from?
Thanks a lot I really appreciate the help
So glad there are places like this to get help with these things!!

Willie
 

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The two on-line Dealers I have used are Chicago BMW and Max BMW.


Part number is:
23127705085 SHAFT SEAL, DRIVE SHAFT - 17X28X70.01 1 $13.05
 

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What would a novice, such as my self do--without people like you?
Your work and video much apreciated!!!
 

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Well I got her all back together and so far so good. I used the video's to disassemble and replace the seal and slave and also of course drill the weep hole. That was a scary part worrying about the right placement of the hole. There was a bit of yelling between my son and I when we reassembled it. The drive shaft and final drive where the bears but that was mainly due to no visibility. Thanks to the little hints on the video though like the rag under the shaft as you put the final drive yoke/shaft into the drive shaft and indexing it. We made our own tool for the torquing part. Bleeding the clutch was the last thing and not sure if we got it right but we found the bleeder on the right side under the bottom half of the tubberware. didn't have a bleeder valve to screw into it so we just used a pin to depress the little bearing and it started to work. Bleeding it like we do brakes pumping the clutch lever a few times and pushing the bearing in to release the pressure. It took a few times but its working.
One thing we did mess up is the heater wires for the left handle grip! Anyone familiar with replacing the heated grips?
Anyway I wish to thank the people on this forum for all the info you give! fi I meet anyone that helped me in the future I owe you a beer!
Now if it would just heat up a tiny bit so I can get some more seat time life will be as it should be!!

Willie :bmw:
 

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Great job!

We need to get a tech session sorted here in the UK, and do one of these.
Help one of us out with the air fare and I, for one would be glad to put on a tech session with you folks.
 

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John,
awesome video. my bike is apart for winter maintenance/valve check/new shocks.. etc.
good excuse to drill the weep hole.
the video was a nice guide. great quality and liked the additional edits.

the only critism is the chit chat in the background. I do realize it was a public gathering... but it was distracting none the less.

again, awesome video....
if done in a quite environment, I believe you could sell these videos.
I think they are much better than other bmw tutorial videos I have seen in the past.

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Whenever I click on the video links I just get a blank screen ... Are they still available???

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I just checked and they open up into a media player on my computer. Try a "right click" and "save as..." to down load it to your machine. Then you can sort out what you might need to view the file.
 

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Can't right click and save as ... but right clicking and opening in a new window worked!

Thanks!

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rdwalker said:
John, excellent job!

Of course, I still think you were cheating. I watched these diligently up to the point where you were breaking the pivot bolts loose. As you remember, that is what had me stymied a couple of weeks ago - I fought with the pivots, broke several sockets, trashed the 14mm heads and gave up for this riding season.

How the heck did you get these out so easily? :confused: It's a conspiracy!

Anyway, I'll try next off-season again. I took note of your hint about the flank-drive socket for the pivots - although I will have to use an easy-out on one that I mangled.

Also, I really liked your FD stand. That sure beats my method: laying under the bike, struggling with the FD, cursing profusely... :eek:

Thanks again.
Hi don't feel bad happened to me on my LT had to drill it out .came up with a solution for the next time , made a special socket that fits over the hex and rides on the diameter of the bolt . more or less took a sleeve and weled it to a 14 mm socket helps to keep the socket on the hex Interested? Dennis.
 
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