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I think it's time for Stevie to get off his arse...quit piddling around in his new yard - awesome though it is :thumb: - and plan us a breakfast get-together. I'm iffy for 7/1, but how about 7/8?

Dick, you flatter re: your suggestion about a GPS talk at CCR...I'm way under-qualified for that...but we could talk about it over breakfast. I probably know enough to fake it with a "friendly" audience. (OK, I know I just opened the door for smart-ass comments with that.)

I had good success planning our recent trip using BaseCamp...I'm by no means an expert, but we've come to a reasonable working relationship...and we can talk about the smart phone apps that I have/use.

BTW, I don't think I ever posted the link for our trip photos. These have not been culled for artistic quality (I may not have many left if I did that!) but y'all might enjoy:
https://plus.google.com/photos/101392436924255760590/albums/5747567076939642241


Trudy's Four Star
13059 Four Star Boulevard
Austin Tx Off 290 near Dripping Springs

07/08/12
9:00 am

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DanMartin said:
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Woohoo! Congrats to ya'll.
Anything in particular you guys want to discuss re GPS/Nav?

I can do a quick walk-thru of how I use Basecamp for my trips. That will probably generate lots of discussion.

I can show you the stuff I use ony iPhone.

But if there's a particular question/problem/workflow you want to talk about, post it here and I'll try to do a little prep before Sunday.
JimE said:
Anything in particular you guys want to discuss re GPS/Nav?

I can do a quick walk-thru of how I use Basecamp for my trips. That will probably generate lots of discussion.

I can show you the stuff I use ony iPhone.

But if there's a particular question/problem/workflow you want to talk about, post it here and I'll try to do a little prep before Sunday.
All eyes and ears on this feature, Jim.
Just how to use a Mac with Garmin to Get "R" Done. :D
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jim where is trudies ????
loansumrider said:
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jim where is trudies ????
Half way 'tween Austin and Dripping Springs, on 290. Google 'Trudy's' and catch the map.
loansumrider said:
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jim where is trudies ????
Going towards Dripping Springs it is on the Right Just before Texas Powersports (Kawasaki dealer)
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I've been busy with home work, taking care of Kathy and fixing up an old ford truck I bought and I need a break. So, I'll get up at 3am and head out for a little tex-mex b-fast, a nice ride and some good company.
lartross said:
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I've been busy with home work, taking care of Kathy and fixing up an old ford truck I bought and I need a break. So, I'll get up at 3am and head out for a little tex-mex b-fast, a nice ride and some good company.
Awesome, Larry...glad you can make it. Have a safe ride!
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Why does the lines from 'Ghostbusters' come to mind ... "How much for your woman..."
icepick578 said:
Why does the lines from 'Ghostbusters' come to mind ... "How much for your woman..."
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Hi All

Anyone have a coil puller tool that I can borrow, I need to change my plugs on the GS, can't find mine. Sorry for the late notice, been tearing the garage apart looking for it. :)

Thanks, see you all in the morning. :bmw:
I just got home and I don't have enough time to get enough sleep, so, I'm not coming......next time?
lartross said:
I just got home and I don't have enough time to get enough sleep, so, I'm not coming......next time?
Larry, we'll miss you...catch you next time.
Looks to be a lil wet but I'll still be there. :bmw:
katnapinn said:
Looks to be a lil wet but I'll still be there. :bmw:
It spit on me and ole Toad this morning - both coming and going. Not much - just enough to run wipers on intermittent if we had 'em!!

Nice place for breakfast - thanks for the find, Barry. I'm likin' that Kona coffee with freebie refills. And Tanya hit a winner with the Carrot Cake Pancake. Can't believe I declined her offer for seconds!! Not like me! :rolleyes: Good to see Bo again. And to see Jim (loansumrider) back on his LT. I looked in the parking lot for Barry's new German cage, but had to settle for pics on his iPhone!! That sprinkle forecast jammed his garage door opener, since the cage had it's top down!!! :rolleyes: ;) :rolleyes: ;)

And thanks to JimE for getting this thread started. Best to y'all.
Dick said:
It spit on me and ole Toad this morning - both coming and going. Not much - just enough to run wipers on intermittent if we had 'em!!

Nice place for breakfast - thanks for the find, Barry. I'm likin' that Kona coffee with freebie refills. And Tanya hit a winner with the Carrot Cake Pancake. Can't believe I declined her offer for seconds!! Not like me! :rolleyes: Good to see Bo again. And to see Jim (loansumrider) back on his LT. I looked in the parking lot for Barry's new German cage, but had to settle for pics on his iPhone!! That sprinkle forecast jammed his garage door opener, since the cage had it's top down!!! :rolleyes: ;) :rolleyes: ;)

And thanks to JimE for getting this thread started. Best to y'all.
All that talk of IPhones this morning got to me, so guess who has a "New" I phone? NO NOT me, Sammie got one. She was in need of a new phone anyway so she pulled the trigger. I can tell you this a IPhone is in my near future also. As soon as my Driod dies. HHmm I May have to drop it a few more time to speed up the process. :rolleyes:

BTW Dick it was Carrot Cake French Toast not pancakes. :D
I followed up with Dick with this, but thought it might be of wider interest and probably generate a few comments, so I'm posting here as well:
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A few more things I wanted to point out about using a phone-based GPS app on the bike...and that's operation, power, heat, rain, and custom routes; this is based on my experience using my iPhone and the TomTom app on my LT as my only nav device for a couple of years.

If you don't have the device plugged in the whole time, it will suck your battery down really quickly. So you have to have it plugged in the whole time. In fact, on my iPhone 3S, the TomTom app would draw power faster than the phone would charge; so the battery would run down even while plugged in. If I turned off the screen, it would be OK. So I'd have to manually turn it off when I'd get on a stretch where I didn't have any turns to worry about. Then I would have to remember to turn it on and check every once in a while, or if I wanted an ETA update, etc. Not insurmountable, but a pain in the butt.

And working the phone with gloves, even to just turn it back on, is hard. The iPhone screen is not pressure-sensitive, but capacitive-sensitive, so it will not work through gloves. You either have to get gloves with a little patch of conductive thread (or sew some in yourself) or cut a little hold in the thumb or finger of your glove so your finger can touch the screen; the latter is what I did. But even with that, working the phone with the bike moving is tough; the screen is so small that anything is a challenge; and of course it can be a safety issue if you're not really careful, as it's easy to get distracted if you're struggling to operate the phone.

If the phone is in the sun, it will overheat unless it's getting some air, and maybe even then if it's running a nav app with the screen on the whole time. Once I moved mine up on the clutch reservoir with a RAM mount, along with turning the display off most of the time, it would do OK. But if you try to, say, put it in the map window of a tank bag, it will overheat really quickly and shut itself down.

And then of course there's rain; you have to be ready to put it into a waterproof place if you get into rain. That works OK if you're getting voice navigation, but obviously you can't see it, and you probably won't have power, so your battery will go down fast. Or you could use one of the waterproof cases to mount it, but now you're potentially back to the power and heat problems.

And none of the iPhone apps that I'm aware of let you put in custom routes. So you have to keep your waypoints in your head, and then route from point to point manually. This can be very tedious and error-prone if you're trying to follow a scenic route, or hit all of the twisties.

All of this makes me glad I have my Garmin on the new bike. It's always plugged in, I can always see it, and it will run all day in the sun or in the rain. I can plan my routes on the computer and then download them and be confident that I'm going to get what I want.

Of course I paid about $600 for those advantages. :rolleyes:

It's a classic 80-20 situation. The phone apps do most of the job for a (very small) fraction of the price of something like a Garmin Zumo 6xx. But there's a reason Garmin can charge more for special-purpose devices. They have a bunch of products aimed at boating and hiking, too. I think this is what Garmin is going to have to survive with, as they will clearly lose a lot of the general auto-based GPS market to phones and factory-installed units.
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