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After spending four years on my 2008 F800ST (my first BMW and re-entry in to riding after being out of it for several years), I've spent the last six-or-so months looking at, thinking about and taking a couple test rides on the R1200RT.

My first test rides were very nice; the RT felt good under me, I was comfortable with the additional 100 pounds over the 800ST and the overall handling was easy to get used to.

I will admit that I wasn't immediately in love after the first ride back in August of last year. I came away from the ride thinking that sure, the RT was a nice bike, but it wasn't as nimble and didn't feel the same as my 800ST.

For the second test ride in late February, I took the RT on a longer test ride, about three hours. After that ride, I was pretty well convinced that anything that felt "strange" was more than compensated for with the increased comfort and features on the RT. A few days later I decided it was time to trade in my beloved 38,000 mile companion on a new, upgraded model.

After waiting what seemed like an eternity and a half, I picked up my factory-fresh 2012 RT on Wednesday. It was bittersweet to see it parked next to the 800ST on the way out the door, but somebody else will love it just as much as I did.

By the time Thursday afternoon rolled around (and ~100 miles on the clock), I realized the "there's something strange about the RT" feeling that I had was "the RT is so fraking awesome my mind can't comprehend it all right now".

What's so fraking awesome about it? Nothing new to anyone here, but...

- Wind protection. I took a 140 mile ride today that I have done several times on teh 800ST and always froze to death on. Today, with simlar weather to past rides and along the same patch, hardly felt it at all. I did fire up the heated grips when it got down to 38F, but that was it.

- More wind protection. The RT doesn't flinch when an oncoming vehicle passes it. Just sails right on through the wake turbulence of most all other vehicles. The 800ST would twitch at anything larger than a VW bug - not bad, but your could feel the turbulence.

- Power. The 800ST was no slouch in the peel-your-eyelids-back arena, but the RT has power, not just thrust. Giving the RT throttle a quick blip to pass a slowpoke is like kicking a bear in the butt; it takes a brief moment to get up, but once it is up you are going for a ride.

- Cruise control. Yes, I went whole hog and got cruise control. I spend 8-10 hours a day on a keyboard and have raging episodes of carpal tunnel syndrome. Even with a crampbuster, my wrists can get to the point where I have to pull over and rest them. Pretty sad, really. The cruise control will let me rest while inflight on long rides.

- Thought-controlled motorcycle. For the most part, I am not conscious of actually making control inputs on the RT to make normal course corrections or gentle maneuvers. They just happen as soon as I think about them. "Pot hole ahead, I should move right..." and voila, we pass the pothole.

- Comfort. On the 800ST, I had a gradiated butt range. Two hours until pain, 10 minute break and then 1.5 hours until pain, 15 minute break. One hour until pain, 30 minute break and then 30 minutes until pain and 10 minute breaks after that. Based on today's three hour almost-nonstop ride today, I think that the butt range will be greatly increased.
 

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It only gets better. I've got just over 1100 on my 2011 RT and it gets better with each passing ride. Maybe it's me and added RT experience or maybe it's the bike slowly breaking in, but the inputs are incredible.
I find that I'm barely conscious of moving through the gears unless I'm dealing with a cage in traffic in front of me. Kicking it up from 1st through 4th hardly takes any effort and I'm so happy that there is barely any shift shock with the gear changes being almost seamless.
On ergo's I was OK with the low heated seat but went for a Rick Mayer that I purchased from a member with the same specs that fitted me. The Mayer seat is incredibly comfortable and it is positioned perfectly to improve my riding position and overall ergo's.
I was able to sell my stock low heated seat on Ebay for full asking price so it was a pretty easy and almost very inexpensive upgrade.
Congratulations on moving up to the RT and enjoy the heck out of it.
 

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Yup, it's impressive what it'll do. I'm enjoying it more every ride.
 

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Perhaps your new bike is so much fun because you waited such a long time :eek:
 

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After spending four years on my 2008 F800ST (my first BMW and re-entry in to riding after being out of it for several years), I've spent the last six-or-so months looking at, thinking about and taking a couple test rides on the R1200RT.

My first test rides were very nice; the RT felt good under me, I was comfortable with the additional 100 pounds over the 800ST and the overall handling was easy to get used to.

I will admit that I wasn't immediately in love after the first ride back in August of last year. I came away from the ride thinking that sure, the RT was a nice bike, but it wasn't as nimble and didn't feel the same as my 800ST.

For the second test ride in late February, I took the RT on a longer test ride, about three hours. After that ride, I was pretty well convinced that anything that felt "strange" was more than compensated for with the increased comfort and features on the RT. A few days later I decided it was time to trade in my beloved 38,000 mile companion on a new, upgraded model.

After waiting what seemed like an eternity and a half, I picked up my factory-fresh 2012 RT on Wednesday. It was bittersweet to see it parked next to the 800ST on the way out the door, but somebody else will love it just as much as I did.

By the time Thursday afternoon rolled around (and ~100 miles on the clock), I realized the "there's something strange about the RT" feeling that I had was "the RT is so fraking awesome my mind can't comprehend it all right now".

What's so fraking awesome about it? Nothing new to anyone here, but...

- Wind protection. I took a 140 mile ride today that I have done several times on teh 800ST and always froze to death on. Today, with simlar weather to past rides and along the same patch, hardly felt it at all. I did fire up the heated grips when it got down to 38F, but that was it.

- More wind protection. The RT doesn't flinch when an oncoming vehicle passes it. Just sails right on through the wake turbulence of most all other vehicles. The 800ST would twitch at anything larger than a VW bug - not bad, but your could feel the turbulence.

- Power. The 800ST was no slouch in the peel-your-eyelids-back arena, but the RT has power, not just thrust. Giving the RT throttle a quick blip to pass a slowpoke is like kicking a bear in the butt; it takes a brief moment to get up, but once it is up you are going for a ride.

- Cruise control. Yes, I went whole hog and got cruise control. I spend 8-10 hours a day on a keyboard and have raging episodes of carpal tunnel syndrome. Even with a crampbuster, my wrists can get to the point where I have to pull over and rest them. Pretty sad, really. The cruise control will let me rest while inflight on long rides.

- Thought-controlled motorcycle. For the most part, I am not conscious of actually making control inputs on the RT to make normal course corrections or gentle maneuvers. They just happen as soon as I think about them. "Pot hole ahead, I should move right..." and voila, we pass the pothole.

- Comfort. On the 800ST, I had a gradiated butt range. Two hours until pain, 10 minute break and then 1.5 hours until pain, 15 minute break. One hour until pain, 30 minute break and then 30 minutes until pain and 10 minute breaks after that. Based on today's three hour almost-nonstop ride today, I think that the butt range will be greatly increased.
I am also fairly new to the RT, and happened to be riding mine yesterday in the cool morning temps (I also live in the Seattle area). Couldn't agree more with your observations. I just had the 600 service done and although I only have approximately 850 miles on the bike now, I can't wait to take it out again (I have this feeling every day). I just can't wipe the smile of my face.
 

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My '08 R1200RT is still a baby. A mere 40,096 miles on the odometer, which for many on this forum, is practically nothing. No big issues really. Tires, oil changes, two fuel strips that you won't have to think about, and one fuel pump changed under warranty. I traded in a perfectly functional Magnesium Black '06 LT for this motorcycle and have never looked back. Interestingly, for me any way, whenever I start suffering "new motorcycle lust" I can not find a REAL reason to let go of my RT. Additionally, I've just discovered long distance riding via the Iron Butt Association. Talk about a match made in Heaven!
 

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My '08 R1200RT is still a baby. A mere 40,096 miles on the odometer, which for many on this forum, is practically nothing. No big issues really. Tires, oil changes, two fuel strips that you won't have to think about, and one fuel pump changed under warranty. I traded in a perfectly functional Magnesium Black '06 LT for this motorcycle and have never looked back. Interestingly, for me any way, whenever I start suffering "new motorcycle lust" I can not find a REAL reason to let go of my RT. Additionally, I've just discovered long distance riding via the Iron Butt Association. Talk about a match made in Heaven!
You said it all!:)
 

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Four12, you are finding out about the RT similar to a lot of us... Test riders cannot generally "get" or appreciate this machine on a short test ride. Six years ago I was looking for a bike and ended up with the then-new R1200R as it was a delight to ride and was essentially able to be equipped with the RT side and top cases. A lot of owners call it the RT-Lite. During the following years, I spent a good deal of time and effort with windscreens and such to make it a great touring bike, including adding the Rick Mayer seat. Since I would ride with the SO from time to time, her input was added over time, and occasionally we would look at the RT, the LT, and K12GT. Judy actually preferred the RT seat and ride with the large top-case, although I could not get my head around the RT. Over time, the RR would go in for service, or I would take one of the demo bikes for a ride (RT's, GS, GSA F800, and then the mighty K16GTL. Funny thing is that I would always end up back with the RT for some reason. After the K16 ride, I decided that I am an incurable Boxer fan as the inline 6 just did not thrill me. Nice bike, but not my kind of ride.

Here is "The Rest of the Story" ...


http://www.dualsportridersoflouisia...378-BMW-R1200R-report/page13&highlight=r1200r


Cliff Notes version of story: You cannot appreciate the RT on a short test ride. It takes a number of long, multi-hour rides to fully appreciate the capabilities of this fine machine. Once this happens, you better have your checkbook, or DO NOT RIDE THIS BIKE !
 

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I picked up my new 12 RT last week. This is the first BMW for me but I fell in love with the 10 RT that my father has and decided I had to have one. I can't believe how stable this bike is -- especially on good roads.
 

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First congrat's on joining the smart riders who call the RT "Home on the Rode". After spending nearly 37 years on all kinds of other bikes i finally know what it is like to be "One With Bike". The bike simply has a way of simply being an extension of me when I'm on the rode. This RT can glide like no other.
 

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Thanks for the greets, all.

I can't wait to get the 600 mile service out of the way (next weekend if the weather holds up) and then be able to get out on the road and really see what this machine is all about.
 

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Thanks for the greets, all.

I can't wait to get the 600 mile service out of the way (next weekend if the weather holds up) and then be able to get out on the road and really see what this machine is all about.
I have to agree with everyone here I only have about 4K on my '11, and like others have had my share of different rides (traded in an st1300) and I haven't look back once....ever

Incredibly telepathic machine.
 
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