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I've seen or ridden just about every possible LT Replacement, Even the BMW GTL. Rejecting all for differant reasons. The one i looked at and kinda didn't take as seriously as i should have might be the Triumph Trophy SE. Now discontinued. Anyone who has ridden or owns one raves on about them. The comfort and handling and storage capacity, saying they are the perfect tourer, and under 690lbs . I just thought the trunk. Although humongous. Doesn't have speakers and backrest like the LT. Now I'm thinking maybe giving one second and serious look .The triple 1200 motor is,more than powerful enough. And sounds so good. Anybody have any thoughts or experience with one?
 

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I rented one for a day and loved it. Good power, comfort and great handling. Wind protection was impeccable. I looked at them myself, but picked up an LT way cheaper.
 

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I've seen or ridden just about every possible LT Replacement, Even the BMW GTL. Rejecting all for differant reasons. The one i looked at and kinda didn't take as seriously as i should have might be the Triumph Trophy SE. Now discontinued. Anyone who has ridden or owns one raves on about them. The comfort and handling and storage capacity, saying they are the perfect tourer, and under 690lbs . I just thought the trunk. Although humongous. Doesn't have speakers and backrest like the LT. Now I'm thinking maybe giving one second and serious look .The triple 1200 motor is,more than powerful enough. And sounds so good. Anybody have any thoughts or experience with one?
I looked at the SE several years ago, but as I did research on it, it seemed as troublesome as the LT. There were a lot of issues, even with new SEs, particularly electrical/electronic gremlins that seemed to stymie the factory as well as the dealers. So, I decided to replace the clutch in my LT and soldier on.
 

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How do you like the RTs?
I get it as a replacement for your LT but a more fair comparison would be to the RT. If you like the RT you may be happy with the Trophy. That being said, Trophy owners seem to be relatively happy with them but most reviews favor the RT over the Trophy.


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I like the RT. Never rode one. But i like a multi cylinder and true liquid cooling.
 

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Now on the Trophy website. Several had said trouble free and suburb comfort for 100k. But i'd also read elsewhere about driveshaft trouble on the the 1st year models.
 

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I like the RT. Never rode one. But i like a multi cylinder and true liquid cooling.
I have not ridden a water cooled RT. When I bought my LT in 07, I rode an RT back to back with the LT. Both my wife and I found it substantially inferior to the LT in smoothness and wind protection. However, I think the new waterhead boxers are much smoother. My brother-in-law, who owns a 2010 Wing, rented one in Ireland last fall (I had a K1600) and he said it was pretty smooth and that is from a Wing rider so I expect the new ones are much improved over the 07 I last rode. I need to try one out as it is on my very short list (currently probably tied with the K1600GA) as a successor to my LT.

I tend to like 4 cylinder bikes also having ridden them since 1987, but I have no issues with a smooth triple or twin and the lighter maintenance load of a twin is actually very attractive. Half as many valves to adjust and half as many spark plugs and throttle bodies/injectors to maintain.

I thought the Trophy SE was a nice looking bike, except for the ugly contrasting color air vents, and it road tested pretty well, but seemed to always come up short of the RT in most testers’ summaries. Add in the troubles that many owners report and its short 6 year life, and I will stay away from it. It sounded like most dealers never really got to know the model and now that it is gone, they have even less incentive. I suspect it will be a hard bike to maintain and get parts for over time.
 

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Recent RT owner here, coming from a Tiger Explorer which shares its drive train with the Trophy. I considered the Trophy several times when looking for a more road oriented ride. I really like the Triumph 1200 triple motor. It's very smooth, and more responsive than my 2013 RT. I had several dealers tell me that having an Explorer, that I should not bother with the Trophy, especially since it was discontinued as of model year 2017. The RT was its target market. Early years had some cylinder head problems but those were worked out by 2015. When discontinued you could pick up a brand new one for around $13,000, so that was a good deal. You can of course pick up used ones for about half that amount if you look around. I ultimately went with the RT because of all the rave reviews and also because I figured its resale value would be higher if I decided it wasn't for me. So far, I still like the Triumph engine, but am acclimating to the RT and liking it for its merits as well. I have ridden a K1300 GT and liked its smooth power delivery, but went with the Explorer for its seating position, which is more GS-like. Best advice as always is to find one to ride.
 

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Well. I suspect my replacement list is as short as yours. The water head on the RT is ok. But as i said. I prefer true liquid cooling. And the reasons you state less maintenance load is the same as my concerns. Your thoughts mirror my list. Although a few years off, What the hell do i replace the LT with? I agree on the 1600 GA. It's on a very very short list. And the fact it's governed at 100 mph doesn't thrill me. I've caught myself doing 115 mph passing idiots or getting away from a group of dangerous drivers. The LT may not be the most HP. But it will get past 100 pretty quickly to get you out of trouble. I understand owners say the wind protection on the Trophy is excellent. But i'd have to judge and don't think anything could beat a LT.
 

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I may take a look at a 15 thru 17 SE.
 

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Test rode a Trophy before I bought my 2014 RT. Liked the engine, but found it top heavy. Switch gear was inferior to the RT and the menu system was a little confusing, almost like they just stuck stuff where it would fit. Thought the RT was superior so bought one. Have now bought a new 1250RT, really like the RTs. Did test ride a K1600 before I bought the 1250, brilliant engine and liked it. But in the end it was the RT for me again. But if I couldn't have the RT the Trophy would be a good substitute.
 

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Well at least I can offer some personal experience with the Trophy. I bought a used 2014 last year and rode it on a major 10k trip. It did handle very well and has a number of pluses. Excellent mileage, can use lower grade of fuel, all the bells and whistles are there, Bluetooth, stereo, satellite radio, electronic suspension, etc. Like mentioned above I did find it top heavy and had to be aware of this at parking lot speeds, especially after fuel up. I traded it and my 2009 Electra Glide for the R1250RT and so far am satisfied with my decision. What bothered me most was the discontinuation of the model. Even last year I started to note that replacement parts, although still available, started to take longer and longer to get. That and my local Triumph dealership closed its doors this spring. Depending on the year there were issues with the software, electronics (the wire cradle was designed without much play, so when you turned the handle bars fully to one side it would stretch the wires to the point that some were having connections breaking), the other common issue was a poorly designed pivot bolt for the shifter and rear brake could snap, leaving a number of riders stranded or worse. I did love the bike though and I did not experience any of the above problems but I was also aware of them and took proactive measures. The protection from wind/rain was excellent. But I am loving the RT plus I have the full warranty.
 

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When I decided to move on from the FJR I seriously looked at the Trophy. I even registered on the Trophy forum so I could search around and gather info. Although they do have some issues, overall most owners I heard from were happy with them. It is a top heavy bike like the FJR but did sit more comfortable and upright. There were some awesome bargains on leftover Trophies. However the fact that they were being discontinued and lack of dealers in my area combined with tanking resale value really drove me to the RT. One ride and I was hooked. Here I am and completely happy. Sometimes I actually do make a good decision. :grin:
 
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I bought a new Trophy SE in 2015 and put 19000 miles on it before trading it for a 2017 RT. The Triumph has better straight line stability than the RT. Power on the RT is strongly superior as well as the brakes on the RT. Triumph has a smoother engine. Wind protection is superior on the Trophy but was TOO good when the weather got warm. Switch gear is much better on the RT. The Triumph has a lot of engine mechanical noise which was irritating. The Triumph front end dived a lot during heavy braking which in turn affected handling in a turn while braking. I found the Trophy more comfortable on 500 plus mile days over the RT. I preferred the looks of the Trophy over the RT. You could adjust the Trophy suspension for a smoother ride than the RT. Well, thats about it. Both these bikes are now gone and have been replace by a 2019 Kawasaki H2 SX SE +. Its not comfortable to ride, but it sure goes real fast real easy!
 

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I bought the 2013 Trophy, traded it back in inside a few months.

No doubt the bike is a 'good idea' gone manufacturer-wrong: Very comfy, good power.

HOWEVER, the electronics were a nightmare, the brakes were worse than my single front brake old Fatboy, the recalls were constant. There were people suing Triumph on the forum, some whose bike were completely taken apart in the shop and still could not find the problems with the electronics, their software was ridiculously glitzie...

...no, I don't recommend a Trophy...I did not know they stop making it but I can see why. I would guess the reason was comparable as to why Ford stopped making the Pinto.

I remember when I was a kid I used to have an Austin Healey sports car. The thing was neat as heck, but I spent the weekends working on that car so I could drive it to work and back on the weekdays, most of the time, with something broke...that's what owning my Trophy was like.


The best sports-touring bike for your money is the Yamaha FJR...if you are looking for cheap efficacy. Personally, the best bike I ever owned (including the FJR) is this 2018 RT.
 

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I’ve been riding RTs since 1981, since then I have never not had an RT. I also love Triumph bikes, currently have 2. I looked forward to the Trophy 1200 coming out for years, but I was bitterly disappointed. I loved the test ride but the problems I read about put me off. I’d shy away.
 

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Thanks. Good to know about the Trophy issues. Well. Maybe the list just got even shorter.
 

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I've put over 100,000 miles on 2 LTs.Traded in my last one on a spanking new 2017 Trophy SE Before last season.After farkling to my satisfaction I find the Triumph superior in every way except the radio. 2 speakers just can't compare to 4.And I miss the CD player. The deal breaker on the LT for me was the weight after a trip thru the Rockies .Hairpin turns when fully loaded for touring sucked.30 hp more than the LT more than makes up for the radio.Bike sounds so sweet I never turn it on anyhoo.Bike listed at $18,999 and I picked it up for $12,500.
 

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Thanks. Good to know about the Trophy issues. Well. Maybe the list just got even shorter.
Well, it really depends on what you are looking for. When I looked for a true replacement for the LT, I found the list to be really short as in a null set. I rode pretty much every contender last summer: Yamaha Venture Intercontinental, Gold Wing, K1600 GTL, and K1600 GA. Nothing is a complete replacement when all aspects are considered. In particular, nothing else has the same level of comfort, weather protection, luggage capacity and range. Many had more power and all have more modern electronics, but most came up short in other areas. The Venture had the best seats, but came up short in wind protection and especially heat management with that goofy air cooled engine. The Wing was very good in the areas of weather protection, smoothness, power, handling, but has terrible stock seats and comes up short in luggage capacity and fuel range. The GTL has less comfortable seats and much poorer wind and weather protection, but has good luggage capacity, great range and superb power and light weight. The GA was the closest match for us, but still falls short in passenger wind protection, in stability being trucks, and the backrest pad is oddly shaped and caused my wife discomfort on her back.

If my LT were totaled tomorrow and I had to replace it, the first thing I would do is go test ride an R1250RT and try to also ride another GA at the same time. I would then try to decide among the two. I think the GA would have more power and certainly be smoother, but I think the RT might well come up first in passenger wind protection and certainly wins the weight contest and ease of maintenance. It would be a touch choice as I really like multi-cylinder, liquid cooled engines having ridden behind two different 1200cc, liquid cooled 4 cylinders since 1987. However, I suspect that as I approach age 60 this year, the RT would likely win out. The money saved compared to the GA would allow the purchase of a custom seat, different windshield and such to help increase the comfort level and I am sure I would get used to the twin. Now that I own a KLR, it makes everything else feel smooth in comparison. :grin:
 

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I bought the 2013 Trophy, traded it back in inside a few months.

No doubt the bike is a 'good idea' gone manufacturer-wrong: Very comfy, good power.

HOWEVER, the electronics were a nightmare, the brakes were worse than my single front brake old Fatboy, the recalls were constant. There were people suing Triumph on the forum, some whose bike were completely taken apart in the shop and still could not find the problems with the electronics, their software was ridiculously glitzie...

...no, I don't recommend a Trophy...I did not know they stop making it but I can see why. I would guess the reason was comparable as to why Ford stopped making the Pinto.

I remember when I was a kid I used to have an Austin Healey sports car. The thing was neat as heck, but I spent the weekends working on that car so I could drive it to work and back on the weekdays, most of the time, with something broke...that's what owning my Trophy was like.


The best sports-touring bike for your money is the Yamaha FJR...if you are looking for cheap efficacy. Personally, the best bike I ever owned (including the FJR) is this 2018 RT.
The first year Trophys had some ploblems,....heads and electronics, but that was all sorted out and fixed within 2 years. I put 19000 miles on my 2015 with zero problems. When the K1600 came out, there were complaints about all the problems that bike was having. I bought a 2013 GTL and still needed a few of those fixed under warranty. The K1600 is still a great bike!
 
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