I would have to double check but the bittons behave differently depending on how hard you press them. A light press of button 4 brings up the navigation menu. A full press brings up the full map straight away.
Samsung Galaxy S10 its androidDavid, do you use an IOS or Android phone?
The phone is connected by Bluetooth AND wifi. I believe the wifi is mainly used to screen-cast the nav app.On the phone front, I get you can charge wirelessly in the pocket, but how is the phone connecting to the TFT, via bluetooth? If so, what is to stop carrying your phone in your pocket as you did before and only sticking it in the cubby hole if it needs a charge? Also you mentioned the buttons are not programmable, yet other reviews I have read say they are, is that people just making an assumption. You also say, there is road and dynamic, is there not now a rain mode? I also read there is an eco mode, or is that something that comes with a different pack or an upgrade? Great thread by the way.
You can put it in your pocket! The Rider's manual gets into that, and only warn about obstacles, like the fuel tank, that might block the connection. It tells you to put the phone in your jacket pocket. Now, if you usually takes long rides, then it makes more sense to store the phone in the cubby, being charged, since the phone canNOT be in power saving mode. The Motorrad app must be running at all time.On the phone front, I get you can charge wirelessly in the pocket, but how is the phone connecting to the TFT, via bluetooth? If so, what is to stop carrying your phone in your pocket as you did before and only sticking it in the cubby hole if it needs a charge? Also you mentioned the buttons are not programmable, yet other reviews I have read say they are, is that people just making an assumption. You also say, there is road and dynamic, is there not now a rain mode? I also read there is an eco mode, or is that something that comes with a different pack or an upgrade? Great thread by the way.
This is the bit from the manual you can see we have Road and Dynamic for damping and Load can be Min (no idea what that is for) and Auto. Sorry if I caused confusion earlier.Guys, not trying to start an argument, just trying to clarify what I had read elsewhereThanks for the clarifications. I currently have a 2019 1250, so understand the difference between engine modes and damping. Just misunderstood the posting (or didn't read it correctly). Is there no custom settings for suspension, so you can mix and match? Not that I think that would bother me, as I normally stick with the settings the bike gives me
Yep I am a member, and I am on the Facebook group as well thanks.Thanks, have you joined the 1200RT.com forum, mostly UK members and only RT focussed. Very friendly forum with quite a lot of RT knowledge. If you have already joined sorry, I'm on a fewThere is a 2021 RT thread going at the moment.
Just saw your post.Yep I am a member, and I am on the Facebook group as well thanks.
That's also what i thought when I first saw the large tach display. Not a good use of space in my opinion. I have a 2021 on order and am thinking that the layout for me would be the map on the left and either turn-by-turn on the right (if it doesn't show as an overlay on the left) or the trip computer. Have you tried that? Also your map is showing in dark mode which for me would be much easier to read. From what I've seen the "day" map doesn't show enough contrast but I'll have to wait and see on that one.View attachment 172744
A bit more of an update on the TFT, this is it in its most useful format i.e. split screen and its pretty and got lots of colour but its dominated by the rev counter.
I know we all aspire to be GP riders but out of 100 touring motorcyclists, how many would put the rev counter as the single most important bit of information on a touring motorcycle?
I have already said that the TFT has no temperature gauge, but guess what, where is the odometer?
The answer is underneath the fuel gauge (shown on the picture) and under the fuel gauge you can put other stuff such as trip info, fuel economy, range, etc.
You scroll through this important information by pressing he menu button up, so you can look at the odometer if you want, but not at the same time as the fuel gauge, get it?
On a 10.25 inch screen they have no room to show a dedicated temperate gauge, fuel gauge or odometer.
So lets say you have the thing set to show fuel economy and you are on a highway and you just wizz past a fuel station the first thing you will know you are running low is when the warning light comes on and you had better hope the next station is within range and open.
I know I can work around this, by leaving the fuel gauge on and forgetting about the other stuff that can be added but sometimes I think BMW designers ask their little children for inspirational ideas.
On the S1000rr you can set different formats of display, but not on this baby.
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You don't have a choice, its full screen or split screen and if its split screen the smaller window is on the right. Regarding the map, again it is what it is. You can display the map in full screen on the dash and that is impressive to show mates but not very practical, do you really need to know what the roads are like miles to your left or right?That's also what i thought when I first saw the large tach display. Not a good use of space in my opinion. I have a 2021 on order and am thinking that the layout for me would be the map on the left and either turn-by-turn on the right (if it doesn't show as an overlay on the left) or the trip computer. Have you tried that? Also your map is showing in dark mode which for me would be much easier to read. From what I've seen the "day" map doesn't show enough contrast but I'll have to wait and see on that one.