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After seeing a reference to this system on this site I did some searching on the web and found nothing but great reviews. Ordered a dual set from.

http://www.mrhit.com/category_s/1894.htm

for $269.00 and no shipping charges. But sales tax in Texas.

After messing for years with cables and flimsy microphones this should be great. If anyone has used this set-up with a Zumo 550 (BMW version) and an I phone that is used for music as well, I would love to hear from you.

PS: How do you pipe the radio into a set up like this?

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I also ordered a Dual set via there eBay site @ $271 + $21 s&h.

As to getting your radio output into the Sena, unless you find a means of connecting the output (BMW 6 pin plug) to a blue tooth transmitter (IMC were working on this, it seems to have died http://www.benchmarkhelmets.com/products/ see the square device at bottom) but your out of luck I think.

Also I don't know if you know that if you plug a device into the 3.5m jack it cancels ALL other audio including the Blue tooth!

But I figured it was a lot cheaper than J&M headset & cords, and bonus is I won't have to plug the SO in before I get on the ride :histerica
 

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Back in Nov I opted for the Whistler Bluetooth headset Cycle Gear had on sale. It is an exact clone of the Camos BT300. It has 2 channels. The first channel is for pairing with a phone and/or music source. The second channel is for pairing with another headset.


Since my GT doesn't have a comm system, I bought a stereo Bluetooth adapter from the IMC folks that is plugged into the audio out of my 2820 (to which I have connected the GXM30 for XM radio). That give me the music I want in channel 1. I have also paired my iPhone with it on channel 1. 4 rings and it will pick up the call, or I can push a button on the headset and answer it. But I still have to pull the phone out and dial it - no voice dial (unlike the Parrot I had, er, still have but don't use if someone wants to buy it). This system has worked great for me.

Now, as far as hooking into the LT comm system, good luck. I have the same issue with the Wing comm system. No one makes any kind of adapter that will connect the bike system to a Bluetooth headset. J&M does have something, but it requires you to use their Bluetooth headset - not an option for me.

If your 550 does Bluetooth and XM, you might be able to pair it up with your headset.

It sure seems like someone would come up with an adapter for these bike systems that would connect to any Bluetooth headset.
 

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I wrote to the company and got a quick and seemingly precise response. Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but I think I can make it work. If anyone has any additional ideas before I hook it up..
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Dear Wolfgang

Thank you for choosing Sena SMH10.

I am afraid that it is impossible to connect all the devices that you have with the SMH10. I have two configuration recommendation.

1. Make a connection, iPhone <-> Zumo 550 <-> Sena SMH10
In this case, you can use mobile phone handsfree and voice instruction from the GPS.
But you have to accept the limitation of mono music of the Zumo 550.
That's because the Zumo 550 does not support A2DP which is for Bluetooth Stereo Music.

2. Make a connection iPhone <-> Sena SMH10 only
In this case, you can have two Bluetooth connection, one if handsfree, the other is AD2P for Stereo Music at the same time.
You can use handsfree of the SMH10 and also enjoy Stereo music from your iPhone over AD2P. But in this case you could not listen the GPS voice instruction from the Zumo.

Please understand that only one kind of Bluetooth connection could be made at a time. One A2DP for Stereo music, plus one handsfree for mobile phone call and plus one intercom for bike-to-bike communication.

SENA is planning to introduce a Bluetooth Audio Gateway which connects multiple audio devices, such as two way radio, radar detector, non-Bluetooth MP3 player to the SMH10.

If you have additional questions or need any assistance, please feel free to contact me any time.
Thanks.

HJ Jeon
Sena Technologies, Inc.
Customer Support Engineer
 

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Wolfgang,

Could this possibly help you?

Another example of how a Bluetooth adapter can enhance a connection is when a Bluetooth adapter is used with a Garmin zumo 550 GPS to provide a wireless audio stream to a Bluetooth headset. If the BTA uses the modern A2DP (stereo) protocol, the sound will be heard in stereo.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-intercoms/chatterbox-icombi/

Ron
 

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kellenbenz said:
Wolfgang,

Could this possibly help you?

Another example of how a Bluetooth adapter can enhance a connection is when a Bluetooth adapter is used with a Garmin zumo 550 GPS to provide a wireless audio stream to a Bluetooth headset. If the BTA uses the modern A2DP (stereo) protocol, the sound will be heard in stereo.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-intercoms/chatterbox-icombi/

Ron
Thanks Ron!

Not sure I totally understand. For now I will try the two configurations I got from Sena and see how I like them.
 

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I have the 2820 gps that I run my phone thru. I like the phone functions with this configuration. I use a Sony TMR-BT10A to connect my Satellite radio. The phone will take priority if you take or make a call and the music starts right up as soon as the call ends. The GPS commands also mute the music. Go to webikeworld.com and it will explain how to interface everything.
 

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I don't know if they have changed their intercoms or not, but I talked to Sena today about the 3.5 mm jack and if it cancels all other input. I was told it does not. I was told that bluetooth and intercomm conections will overide the 3.5mm jack.
 

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I don't know if they have changed their intercoms or not, but I talked to Sena today about the 3.5 mm jack and if it cancels all other input. I was told it does not. I was told that bluetooth and intercomm conections will overide the 3.5mm jack.
Thats what mine does.
 

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Sena SMH10 - Experience-sharing event

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We, Sena Technologies are a leading provider of Motorcycle Bluetooth Headset & Intercom as you know. We prepared a smart experience-sharing event for you, Sena SMH10 users!
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wookjoong said:
Hello Bros and Sis,

We, Sena Technologies are a leading provider of Motorcycle Bluetooth Headset & Intercom as you know. We prepared a smart experience-sharing event for you, Sena SMH10 users!
Just check the link below and do not miss a chance for free SMH10. Looking forward to getting lots of feedbacks from you.
http://www.senabluetooth.com/media_review/share_experiences.html

Please have a chance to get SMH10 by posting your experience to facebook!
Our Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/senabluetooth
Thanks to SENA, via the Facebook page I was one of the LUCKY winners of a 'Dual Pack' & a 'SMH-A0302 Helmet Clamp Kit - Attachable Boom Microphone & Wired Microphone' . I currently have this system & with the SO being able to listen to her Ipod & me listening to my music Via a Bluetooth dongle in my UMPS that also does GPS via Garmin Mobile PC 10X. All works great.
Now I can share this with my riding buddies, on our trips in 2011...come on Spring.
 

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I'm working on a write-up/evaluation of the Sena system, had the opportunity to put it through its paces on a trip to the Smoky Mountains last month.

To address the above, the system has a prioritization of connections:

Phone overrides everything
Then intercom
Then whatever else you have linked via bluetooth (GPS, Radar Detector, iPod via dongle, whatever)
Lastly, anything you connect via their included audio cable (MP3 player, GPS, audio out for phone, whatever has a 3.5 mm jack)


Will provide more detail soon, but the system is fantastic. Line-of-sight, person-to-person we had crystal clear communication almost a mile. Lasted about 12 hours. I called my wife when I was riding 80 mph into a heavy headwind and she thought I was calling her from my hotel room.

I have some hearing loss from past medical issues, this is the first and only intercom system I've ever used where I had to turn the volume DOWN, and that was while using earplugs, riding at highway speeds.

Unlike other systems, their duo-pack comes with everything instead of charging you extra for this, extra for that. You get two wall chargers, two car chargers ($20 each with others), two audio cables ($15 each with others), extra mic covers ($5 each with others), USB charging cables (can't get 'em with others), you can charge them WHILE using them if you want, you can adjust everything with gloves on because it has a big dial-multifunction button instead of tiny, hidden buttons, half the price of other competitors, one year warranty,and so on.

yeah, I like 'em...
 

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petevandyke said:
I'm working on a write-up/evaluation of the Sena system, had the opportunity to put it through its paces on a trip to the Smoky Mountains last month.
To address the above, the system has a prioritization of connections:

Phone overrides everything
Then intercom
Then whatever else you have linked via bluetooth (GPS, Radar Detector, iPod via dongle, whatever)
Lastly, anything you connect via their included audio cable (MP3 player, GPS, audio out for phone, whatever has a 3.5 mm jack)


Will provide more detail soon, but the system is fantastic. Line-of-sight, person-to-person we had crystal clear communication almost a mile. Lasted about 12 hours. I called my wife when I was riding 80 mph into a heavy headwind and she thought I was calling her from my hotel room.

I have some hearing loss from past medical issues, this is the first and only intercom system I've ever used where I had to turn the volume DOWN, and that was while using earplugs, riding at highway speeds.

Unlike other systems, their duo-pack comes with everything instead of charging you extra for this, extra for that. You get two wall chargers, two car chargers ($20 each with others), two audio cables ($15 each with others), extra mic covers ($5 each with others), USB charging cables (can't get 'em with others), you can charge them WHILE using them if you want, you can adjust everything with gloves on because it has a big dial-multifunction button instead of tiny, hidden buttons, half the price of other competitors, one year warranty,and so on.

yeah, I like 'em...
Hey, Pete --- any progress on your write up for the Sena unit? I'm trying to lock into a BT product for my Santa wishlist, since Mrs. Santa sez "find it and I'll buy it!!" Almost bought a Cardo Scala FM unit, but held off for a bit while investigating other systems. Tried Doug Turner's first BT unit on loan - a Parrot model - but I had issues with it that I didn't like. He loves his Whistler unit, butt I don't need the intercom feature, since no one has ever ridden on ole Toad's passenger seating - so I'm mainly concerned with being able to voice-dial and auto-answer using my 3GS iPhone - I like staying in touch with Cheryl while scooting around the Tejas Hill Country.

I did appreciate you covering a lot of the pros with your use of the Sena unit - I'm just wondering if you had any cons? Thanks, Pete. Always like your take on subjects for us forum readers. ;)
 

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Heya, Dick.

Guy I rode with in the Smokys had an iPhone gen 4 with his Sena, and he LOVES it--not only can you use the unit for making and answering calls, you can VOICE control all of the music functions on the iPhone with it. He linked his Passport radar detector to his GPS for high priority Bluetooth, and used the iPhone for music (the "phone" has first priority). So if something popped up on radar or he had directions from his GPS, that popped up first, otherwise, he listened to music.

Another plus--for those who have had custom earphones made (like the Fuse or the really expensive ones) you can get a secondary headset cradle for about $20 that lets you plug THOSE (or any other earbuds--like Shures or any high end or even iPod headphones) in and attach a mic anywhere you want in front of the helmet (only for those with full-face helmets), so you get the benefit of high quality, in-ear earphones as well.

I tried the Current Interphone system and was thoroughly unimpressed with the A2DP sound quality (bluetooth stereo for music, whatever). Sounded tinny--the speakers are good for intercom use, but NOT good for music, which is more than half of the reason I want the system.

One thing I do NOT like about the Parrot and Scala systems is that the volume buttons are about the size of tic-tacs. Very difficult to adjust volume with gloves on. The Sena devices have a large, rotating multi-function DIAL that you could adjust with arctic mittens on.

The only thing I'd change on the Sena system is that they, like pretty much every other system I've seen, have a proprietary charging plug. I'd love for these things to have a standard mini-USB plug so that if you ever forget or lose one, you could just use a car charger.

Not really an issue, because they give you two, and a wall charger, AND a cigarette charger (though it's standard, not "BMW" sized, so you'll need an adapter).

Also one suggestion...if you use the audio cable to direct connect an MP3 device, make sure you only set the volume on the iPod or MP3 player about half way, use the Sena volume to adjust volume--I experienced a little "audio bleed through" into my intercom use because I likely had my iPod volume too high--tech support said that on some devices, if you have the volume too high it can sent too strong a signal through the audio cable. Once I adjusted it, no problems.


It's not only the system I'd recommend "for the money," it's the system I'd recommend period right now. Best sound incoming and outgoing, best features, and everything works great.

Feel free to email me with other questions, can arrange a phone call if you like.

Pete
 

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Thanks a million, Pete. Got the list stuck on the bathroom mirror for Ms. Santa to take action. I gave her the url to the Revzilla website, since they 'seem' to have decent pricing, what with free shipping and such. Hope I pointed to the correct Sena unit, and I guess if I need any peripherals, those can come later, once I get familiar with their products.

Pete - thanks again. The best to you and yours for the Holiday Season.
 

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Heya, Dick.

Guy I rode with in the Smokys had an iPhone gen 4 with his Sena, and he LOVES it--not only can you use the unit for making and answering calls, you can VOICE control all of the music functions on the iPhone with it.

Pete
Do you still need to hold down the HOME button on the iPhone, or does the Sena bypass that?
 

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Do you still need to hold down the HOME button on the iPhone, or does the Sena bypass that?

He never had the iPhone out of his jacket pocket, so I am assuming he was hitting the "phone" button (located on the back side of the Sena unit).

The manual is downloadable on Sena's website: http://www.senabluetooth.com/

and they have a couple videos, including an iPhone and Zumo demo, worth a look if you're interested I think



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I won a single Sena set in their second contest held just before Christmas. I love it!! I have not used it as an intercom yet since I have not yet bought one for my wife (before spring this will happen) but I have used it for the phone. With the screen up in the position I normally ride in, I can takl on the phone up to about 55 with my helmet visor open and my wife can't tell I am moving. Above 55-60 or so she can hear just a bit of wind, close the helmet and its back to not hearing any wind. Even at 70+ with sreen all the way down and visor open, she can still easily hear me, but can hear the wind too, but who cares, who rides like this? SO at 70+ with screen normal and helmet closed, sounds like I am sitting at the curb on my cell. I have no problem hearing her at all with ear plugs in, the unit is plenty loud enough.

Set up on the helmet was simple, charging is simple, pairing to the phone is simple and yet the thing still works!! I love it. Will be buying a unit for my wife and have talked my brother into getting units for him and his wife. Can't wait to try the intercom bit.
 

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