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I don't know why it happens so freuquentlly...but when someone posts a problem I get the same problem here...way too coincidental!!! This problem needs a bunch of complaints to the bureau...http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/ is the site. These POS disconnects throw gasoline when they're broken and are dangerous beyone belief. I just replaced mine today which were spewing gasoline three feet out from the connector. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE file a complaint at the above website. This is one more thing about the LT that is just unacceptable.and beyond what is reasonable and is totally irreresponsible from a manufacturer.
 

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question? did you replace with OEM or use aftermarket QD's?
 

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The new QD's from BMW are metal and won't have this problem. They're also almost $100.

Most people use after market QD's, or like me, I used some cheap copper plumbing equipment from Home Depot.
 

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I don't know why it happens so freuquentlly...but when someone posts a problem I get the same problem here...way too coincidental!!! This problem needs a bunch of complaints to the bureau...http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/ is the site. These POS disconnects throw gasoline when they're broken and are dangerous beyone belief. I just replaced mine today which were spewing gasoline three feet out from the connector. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE file a complaint at the above website. This is one more thing about the LT that is just unacceptable.and beyond what is reasonable and is totally irreresponsible from a manufacturer.

I totally agree with you here. This is really embarrassing from BMW. This highlights why BMW just is not as reliable as Honda. If Honda had a leaky QD, it would immediately issue a recall and put a better QD on all the new bikes, but BMW used the leaky QD's for years and years.
 

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I replaced mine with brass barbed fittings from my auto parts supplier.

I know owners are replacing them with after-market connectors and that BMW is using a different QD now. My point is this: bikes out there with the old QD's need to be recalled and the QD's replaced. Period. There are a lot of them out there with the old QD's and it's an accident waiting to happen.
 

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On the subject of QD's, a question for the experts. Were these improved and do not require replacement after a certain model year? I have a 2007 LT and want to decide whether to replace them when I do my 24K. Thanks.
 

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I just called the shop that I use here in Houston, Texas and my cost on them was 53.00 for 2 male metal QD. That did not include the clamps. I was told that just the male ends needed to be replaced. I did crack one of the male plastic nipple pulling them apart.
 

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Parts designed to fail = After Sale Revenue....

Why would they replace the cheap QD's for free when they can SELL you a new set for a Hundred Bucks ?

Most folks who own a BMW have the stealership work on it...
Just us madhatters who work alone use the aftermarket better quality parts.

So deny them their claim on your money and fix it yourself.
A couple of barbs and 4 hose clamps and you're on your way...

Then take the old ones down to the dealership and throw them thru the front window.
(Works better with final drives)

My question is, If the part fails while the bike is under warranty and the bike burns down, Do you think BMW will give you a new bike ?

John
 

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The original QD's are fine ONLY if you disconnect them properly and without bending them. The latch groove is the weak point and if you don't pull straight out on them you stress it. The way the hoses line up and their length makes it difficult to do this unless you really focus. I still changed mine out to metal ones even though I was careful with the OEM plastic ones. I still carry the plastic ones as a spare for my friends.
 

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To echo what John said - I have 6 1/2 tears on my LT and have taken the tank off a minimum of once a year and have no issues.

I guess I would like to see how the failure manifests itself - pictures would help.

The amount of plastic in future motorcycles and automobiles will be increasing and understanding how to handle those parts will be important and fundamental.

Certainly converting to metal parts minimizes failures in the field.

I guess it is possible to damage the part and not even know it or are these fatigue failures?? :confused:
 

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I just replace mine this past weekend due to a leak. I took my tank off in September 08 and didn't have a problem until now. The fuel was spraying out several feet. Fortunately for me mine began leaking as the bike idled in the driveway. I had to do my 30k maintenance and add a couple of things to the bike so I made a weekend of it.
I replaced mine with two metal QDs from smallparts.com
 

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jzeiler said:
The original QD's are fine ONLY if you disconnect them properly and without bending them. The latch groove is the weak point and if you don't pull straight out on them you stress it. The way the hoses line up and their length makes it difficult to do this unless you really focus. I still changed mine out to metal ones even though I was careful with the OEM plastic ones. I still carry the plastic ones as a spare for my friends.
In over 40k miles I never removed my fuel tank and never removed the QD's, and it STILL failed
 

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Ditto on the last post. I have 20K on my bike, never removed tank nor had any reason to evn touch the QD. The male side of the pressurized line failed where on the non-barbed side at the latch groove. Mine are in the garbage, I could pull them and post a picture, but ya can't see the separation even with a magnifying glass without stressing the connection at that point, so it probably wouldn't do much good to shoot the picture.
 

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Replace the male half of the connector from Iron Horse, Tucson
$18.

Gasoline will ruin a nice pair of boots real quick.
The replacement is plastic. It will in time break like the orignal, maybe.

It is interesting though, I never had one fail on it's own, only when I screwed up trying to get the two halves to mate after taking the tank off to change the fuel filter. And that is with almost 100,000 miles on two LTs and only one broken plastic BMW QD.
 

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Dang!

Pulled in the driveway today and fuel was spewing everywhere!

Crap!

Guess it's time to upgrade my QD!

At least I wuz at the hacienda! :D
 

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Yes to all responses. I'd like to say this to those who say "just replace them"...there's no reason they should fail and the potential of a terrible burn accident is way too high.
 

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If you are the original owner it may not. Many added them as an after market thing. I have seen some that were without still. Easy to check, shine a flash light into the opening just above the tip over bar. You can see the hoses and there are either disconnects or just joined hoses with clamps.
 
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