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Recently traded my Harley Davidson dresser for 05 k1200LT. Best decision I ever made. Love the 1200. My wife rides with me more than half the time. She complains because the air turbulence around her is much greater than when riding our former HD. Can anyone tell me is changing the windshield will help and if so what windshield would you recommend. I presently have the standard factory windshield. Thanks.
 

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I have a Cee Baileys #2 with wings -3 and love it. Turbulance is gone.
 

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I have a Cee Baileys #2 with wings -3 and love it. Turbulance is gone.
Roger, I am thinking about getting a CB, but am unsure with all these options. First, I wonder what they mean by European cut. Is that like the BMW short shield option where the top is squared off? Would that be an improvement? Also, why go with a shorter than stock shield. I have to raise my stock shield to get any kind of protection as it is. Do the wings eliminate the wind that comes around and hits the side of your helmet? Do you have to raise the shield any to get that protection just right? Thanks!!! :)
 

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CB windshield

CB makes many shields for the LT. Very popular is the #2 w/Wings at 1-3" shorter than stock. The Wings make a big difference.

I have the CB #1 w/wings +1.5" and it works very well for me and wife. To come up with the height, I taped cardboard onto top of stock shield and kept cutting it down till I liked it. I am 6'4" with 30" inseam - I sit tall. Wife is 5'8". We use Arai Signet GTR helmets.

I think all shields have to be raised at least a little to allow rear air flow which is a major part of the job. Helps keep the air flow from stalling.

The wings make a big difference- as much as the winglets under the mirrors.

The Euro cut has a slight dip in the center of the top. BMW came out with this on the CL1200. Theory is that the sides will keep the air off while the lower center allows you to see easier. Not sure if it works. Some say yes.
 

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CB makes many shields for the LT. Very popular is the #2 w/Wings at 1-3" shorter than stock. The Wings make a big difference.

I have the CB #1 w/wings +1.5" and it works very well for me and wife. To come up with the height, I taped cardboard onto top of stock shield and kept cutting it down till I liked it. I am 6'4" with 30" inseam - I sit tall. Wife is 5'8". We use Arai Signet GTR helmets.

I think all shields have to be raised at least a little to allow rear air flow which is a major part of the job. Helps keep the air flow from stalling.

The wings make a big difference- as much as the winglets under the mirrors.

The Euro cut has a slight dip in the center of the top. BMW came out with this on the CL1200. Theory is that the sides will keep the air off while the lower center allows you to see easier. Not sure if it works. Some say yes.
David, thanks for the reply. I'm 6' and have the seat in the high position to make it easier on my knees. So I am thinking the -2 is right for me.
 

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May I suggest to the administrators of this great site, that due to the interest shown about the Cee Baileys windscreen and the obvious confusion about which one to purchase, that some sort of survey were posted that could include some of the following questions?:

Height of rider
Height of original screen taking into account that these seem to have changed over the years
Type and size of CB purchased
 

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We came off of a GL1800 and from my wife, had better wind protection for the passenger. I think my so just lives with it. I have tried/spend $1000 in different windshields and settled with the shield on the new 05's euro shield. Buy that is me and my wife, so it will be hard.
 

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May I suggest to the administrators of this great site, that due to the interest shown about the Cee Baileys windscreen and the obvious confusion about which one to purchase, that some sort of survey were posted that could include some of the following questions?:

Height of rider
Height of original screen taking into account that these seem to have changed over the years
Type and size of CB purchased
I agree with Simon.

My stock windshield is definately getting replaced this winter and I want to make sure to get the right Cee Baileys.

I think I figured it out- I'm 5'10 on a good day with a inseam just shy of 30". I'm looking at buying a CD #2 -3 inches. It seems like eveyone about my size orders either a -4 or a -2. I thought I would aim for the middle.
 

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Hey, Rev - if I wuz Cee Bailey, I'd think maybe a leetle vacation in GA around the end of August would sound pretty good. I'd bring along several different fitments, properly labeled, of the #2 style windshield and have me a 'show and tell' session and then git out the order book and set up the card swiper thangie. Butt, that's just me.

Didn't Paige (Aeroflow guru) do that in Santa Fe??

Hope you git the one you like, Muns.
 

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May I add some nutshell info regarding the CB windshields.

First: When CB talks about "stock" windshield, they refer to the TALL OEM BMW windshield that measures 24" on the centerline of the screen. (Measure taken from the top of the lower air intake opening to the top of the shield.)
So all the -1, -2, -3 etc must be understood as how much shorter the shield is in comparison to the tall BMW shield.

From '05 model the stock BMW shield is the short Euro cut version (17" tall). So, for instance #2 -4 shield is actually 3 inches TALLER than the new "stock" shield.

As I asked CB, I was informed that the centerline height is the same in their standard and Euro cut shields. So according to this information the Euro shield has its upper corners HIGHER than the standard cut shield if we talk about the same nominal height screens.

My experience goes as follows (my height is 180 cm = 6', inseam I don't know but I guess I have a "normal" back length):
In 2004 I ordered a #2-2 (standard cut) from CB getting mixed up with their "stock" terminology. (My stock is the short Euro cut).
Anyway, this shield was so tall I could not see over it without standing on the footpegs. So I ended up cutting about 80 mm (over three inches) more from the bottom of the shield. (This was no big deal with a proper blade hacksaw.)

Now I made a group order for myself and five other LT riders. I am about the tallest of this group and we all took #2-4 with wings, Euro cut except one who is about 170 cm and for him we took a -5.

So far we have no riding experience (too much snow on the ground...) but I was happy with my previous #2 - 2 -80mm and when I now compare the new -4 it is about 10 mm taller on the center and the upper corners are higher as my old shield was standard cut.

As others have mentioned, trying out with a piece of cardboard is a good way to try to find out the right height. It also has meaning whether you ride the seat in high or low position. (And pre'05 models have about 10 mm more difference between the high and low seat position...).

My recommendation is that anybody shorter than 6' should not go taller than -4 shields if you ride with the seat in lower position and want to see over the screen in its low position.

A last note for eager DIY specialists: The shield with wings is not possible to be trimmed from the bottom side afterwards without ruining the wings. And cutting it from the top ruins at least the curvature of #2 shield. So make sure you get the right height from the start...

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CeeBaily #2, +2 w /Wings

I had no problem with the stock tall windshield. It was my 5'10 wife who is getting blasted. I just tried a CeeBailey #2 +2 with wings. It is a beautiful product with virtually no distortion. Problem is, my wife says she can not tell the difference. now I get to see if their 30 day guarantee is true. Anyone with any suggestions.
 

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UltraLT said:
I had no problem with the stock tall windshield. It was my 5'10 wife who is getting blasted. I just tried a CeeBailey #2 +2 with wings. It is a beautiful product with virtually no distortion. Problem is, my wife says she can not tell the difference. now I get to see if their 30 day guarantee is true. Anyone with any suggestions.
My wife (5' 4") says our CB #2 -2 w/wings works best when it's all the way up. I prefer it lower, but when she's with me I keep the shield up.
 

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im 6'3 and i have the #2 -2 if i had it to do over id go with -4 right now its perfect all the way down,i can raise it an in. or two ,any higher and im looking through it
 
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