I guess the strain of that isn't anywhere near as much as the suspension bouncing you up and down when moving
Pannier case scuffing..
Short story..after a stroke in 2017 its hard as all to raise my leg enough to cleanly clear the back of the bike every time, maybe 1 in 3 times a boot doesnt hit something...
I have Xpel film coming to cover bike surfaces (love this stuff on my 928)..and it will help, but will still show scuffing, but not mess up the paint at least.
Anything else I should be looking at?
I have Xpel film coming to cover bike surfaces (love this stuff on my 928)..and it will help, but will still show scuffing, but not mess up the paint at least.
Anything else I should be looking at?
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Almost 200,000 miles on RTs always using the peg as a stirrup. No problems.
I was behind a hog swimming between lanes, HIS fairing cleared the truck.But it is. Check the specs, widest point, the mirrors at 38.8" or 985 mm, exactly the same as the panniers at their widest point. I was wrong about assuming the panniers were narrower. I never measured them until now. Just for you
But his donky donk WHEELS caught his engine guard and had him on the concrete so fast...the wheels were like 1/2 oil drums..
it's easy not to look down because "My mirrors will fit"....
I saw it coming and it still shocked me that it was that wide at the wheel.
I am talking about the RT specifically, not some other bike... I thought we were in a BMW forum and the water cooled section of that in particular.I was behind a hog swimming between lanes,
I am talking about the RT specifically, not some other bike... I thought we were in a BMW forum and the water cooled section of that in particular.
I believe you missed the point.
You assert that an RT breaks the laws of physics...and that there is no lesson for us all here.
I had a motorcycle accident in 2015 in Missouri and since then I've used the footpeg to get on the bike. No issues, but I do it slowly and avoid any sudden weight on the bike. I even tried mounting from the right side, but it feels weird and very off-balance. You can always use those plastic liners on the bags to protect them from any scuff marks.
I had a motorcycle accident in 2015 in Missouri and since then I've used the footpeg to get on the bike. No issues, but I do it slowly and avoid any sudden weight on the bike. I even tried mounting from the right side, but it feels weird and very off-balance. You can always use those plastic liners on the bags to protect them from any scuff marks.
Its been working for me..and although im not an engineer, a block of AL with a big fat pin, is going to hold a lot of weight.
And the way load transfers from the stand to the bike, a lot -more- weight.
Im my unique use, I have to loo up to see a horizon to make it work, or I may get really dizzy. But..its working.
WTF are you talking about?You assert that an RT breaks the laws of physics...and that there is no lesson for us all here.
I made a statement that in my experience, filtering between cars with the RT is fine as long as the mirrors fit. If the mirrors fit, the panniers will fit too. I.E. the MIRRORS ARE THE WIDES POINT ON AN RT.
You then come back with a DIRECT quote of my post with a Harley rider as an example who got collected by a truck somehow.
I then respond to that saying that I was talking about the RT, not a Harley. I don't know how Harleys relate in the mirror v. pannier measure.
You then come back and say that I am asserting the RT is breaking the laws of physics.
Again, what the fuck are you talking about???
It is a FACT that the mirrors are the widest part of the new RT and generally speaking if the mirrors fit through a gap (and you are not approaching it at an angle) then the rest of the bike will fit through.WTF are you talking about?
I made a statement that in my experience, filtering between cars with the RT is fine as long as the mirrors fit. If the mirrors fit, the panniers will fit too. I.E. the MIRRORS ARE THE WIDES POINT ON AN RT.
You then come back with a DIRECT quote of my post with a Harley rider as an example who got collected by a truck somehow.
I then respond to that saying that I was talking about the RT, not a Harley. I don't know how Harleys relate in the mirror v. pannier measure.
You then come back and say that I am asserting the RT is breaking the laws of physics.
Again, what the fuck are you talking about???
WTF are you talking about?
I made a statement that in my experience, filtering between cars with the RT is fine as long as the mirrors fit. If the mirrors fit, the panniers will fit too. I.E. the MIRRORS ARE THE WIDES POINT ON AN RT.
You then come back with a DIRECT quote of my post with a Harley rider as an example who got collected by a truck somehow.
I then respond to that saying that I was talking about the RT, not a Harley. I don't know how Harleys relate in the mirror v. pannier measure.
You then come back and say that I am asserting the RT is breaking the laws of physics.
Again, what the fuck are you talking about???
What if the mirrors of the traffic you are filtering are not the widest point.
Read my post.
The traffic has mirrors? I was only ever talking about the RT and ITS mirrors.What if the mirrors of the traffic you are filtering are not the widest point.
I did and you still make no sense. You know what? Don't worry about it, not worth the timeRead my post.
I really dont know why you're so agro about it.
A truck, with SUPER wide barrel wheels, doesnt care how wide your mirrors are.
Im just going over simple geometry, and why "mirrors" are not the single reference of truth here.
And if it's not worth your time, that is entirely your problem. You dont get to shovel it at me. Decaf man..
A truck, with SUPER wide barrel wheels, doesnt care how wide your mirrors are.
Im just going over simple geometry, and why "mirrors" are not the single reference of truth here.
And if it's not worth your time, that is entirely your problem. You dont get to shovel it at me. Decaf man..
It made sense to me speedtoys
The mirrors may be the widest part of your bike, but that doesn't mean that they are horizontal with the widest part of the vehicles you are filtering through.
Just because they fit through, doesn't mean that a lower or higher part of the vehicles you are filtering through aren't going to come in contact with a part of your bike
Hence the example of the Harley, which could just as easily have been a BMW, and the truck wheel (which was the widest part of the truck) hitting the panniers.
The mirrors may be the widest part of your bike, but that doesn't mean that they are horizontal with the widest part of the vehicles you are filtering through.
Just because they fit through, doesn't mean that a lower or higher part of the vehicles you are filtering through aren't going to come in contact with a part of your bike
Hence the example of the Harley, which could just as easily have been a BMW, and the truck wheel (which was the widest part of the truck) hitting the panniers.
I am on a 2019 RT and this is how i do it most of the time, no problems, just be careful if stand is on soft surface.
The whole standing on the foot peg to swing your leg over whilst the bike is on the side stand thing. Doesn't that put a whole load of extra strain on the stand, bracket & pivot in a way that they were never really designed to take. Or is it just a none issue as they're just super strong?
Any long term owners got tales of woe or indeed praise for the sturdiness of it?
Tranquilo, gentleman. It’s text in the internet.
Just out of curiosity, how much filtering are you doing on your RT?The mirrors may be the widest part of your bike, but that doesn't mean that they are horizontal with the widest part of the vehicles you are filtering through.
I don't know about your part of the world, but down this way the widest part (legally as well as practically) of the vehicles (including trucks) are the mirrors. For passenger vehicles such as cars and vans, 4 wheel drives, SUVs etc, my mirrors are at level or just under their mirrors. Quite easy to judge if the bike is going to fit or not. No need to look down or anything like that. You supposed to look ahead anyway.
But hey, it's a (reasonably) free world, feel free to disagree
I observed what I do the other day after this thread.
In very slow traffic ( or stopepd) sometimes as I pass I pull in front of the car slightly meaning the pannier can "swipe" on the way through even though it fit with the mirrors.
Will keep a straight line a bit longer in future.
In very slow traffic ( or stopepd) sometimes as I pass I pull in front of the car slightly meaning the pannier can "swipe" on the way through even though it fit with the mirrors.
Will keep a straight line a bit longer in future.
Hey guys, I ride the 2022 RT and live in So Cal. I ride everyday, whether to work and back or casual (fast paced) rides on the weekends. Lane splitting is legal here, which I'm sure most of you know, and I take advantage of that freedom every ride. The RT fits where it's gonna fit, that applies to any bike. You either have room or you don't. It's a feeling you get the more you do it. I use my mirrors as reference, if they fit I'm going thru, and I have split traffic where I have a mere couple of inches between me and the cars on either side. It's just something you end up knowing, "i can fit or I can't". I've never bumped a car but one thing I try to NEVER do is split large trucks...they kind of make me nervous. I'll do it if the car in the next lane moves and gives me plenty of room but trucks are my kryptonite when it coms to splitting. Bottom line is, bikes are only going to fit if the room is there, no matter what, and the RT fits fine if everyone is staying in the middle of their lane. Oh, and I ride/split with bags on and I can get that RT thru some pretty tight spaces.
Speaking of pannier scuffing...I was having lunch last year out at a popular spot where bikers like to go. A guy approached me while I was eating and told me how his father really liked my bike. He asked me if he could sit on it. I said sure, no problem. Long story short, his mobility was a little lacking and his boot left a big scuff on my pannier. Luckily, I have them wrapped in a clear film, so the damage isn't to the paint. I think it bothered his son more than it bothered me. I'm pretty particular about my stuff, but it was for a good cause lol.
I started on my RT with boots but after scuffing my film wrapped bags multiple times I switched to riding shoes with softer soles and now it's a non-issue. I have to stand on the peg to get my leg over as well, can't do it from the ground without dragging the foot. The riding shoes are so much more comfortable for daily use and they save your bags, it's a win-win.
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