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Ordered a new shock to replace my sagging 15 year old rear today. Went to Ted Porters Beamershop initially as they were listed as the only distributor of the Yacugar shock I was looking at. Had a long talk with both Ted and Jeff about my load and riding types and style and actually went with a different shock based on those conversations. Went with a TFX 140 EMULSION SHOCK W/ HPA / Rebound & Hyd. Preload Adjust. The main reason I went with this is the very large 15mm preload adjust at the recommendation of Ted Porter who said that if you crank up the preload all the way on an Ohlin, it will blow out a o-ring or seal. with 15MM of adjustment, I should be able to set up the bike adequately for both 1up and 2up riding. The price was very close on all the brands this shop sold and serviced so that really wasn't an issue.

I have seen many different conversations on Ohlin, Wilber and the like but I haven't seen any on the TFX in particular. Is anyone else running these or did you look at them and reject them for some reason? I am new in the shock buying business but it looked like a good choice for me. Just curious on if anyone else has or is using them.

BeemerShop TFX 140 EMULSION SHOCK W/ HPA / Rebound & Hyd. Preload Adjust // K1200LT '98-'03
 

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When I was in the market for shocks, Ted recommended, and I bought the Yacugars, front and rear. He had stated that they were more beefy than the Ohlins or Wilburs and could go longer between rebuilds. He never mentioned TFX, but then maybe they hadn't been released yet... :bmw:
 

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When I was in the market for shocks, Ted recommended, and I bought the Yacugars, front and rear. He had stated that they were more beefy than the Ohlins or Wilburs and could go longer between rebuilds. He never mentioned TFX, but then maybe they hadn't been released yet... :bmw:
Not sure of the release or availability date from Ted but I had actually placed an order for the Yacugar E-RS model which is probably what you purchased and called the next day to discuss the order and options like progressive vs linear etc as those were not listed on the stats i had to fill out.

My pillion and I max out the bike with what little we pack with us ( me mostly) and based on our conversation, he said that if the right spring rate is available, the enormous 15mm of preload adjust should allow for good adjustment for both 1up and 2up. Got a call a few minutes ago saying that the spring was available and it may be able to be done in a couple weeks. I might have it in time for the SMFR which is what I ordered it now for. Pillion is worried about all the center stand scraping in the corners recently. I think this new shock, properly set up with a higher spring rate will let us take corners and not be bottoming out so much plus have enough adjustment in the preload to set it pretty well for single riding too without risking a preload blow out Ted mentioned could happen with that kind of load on the Ohlins.
 

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When I was in the market for shocks, Ted recommended, and I bought the Yacugars, front and rear. He had stated that they were more beefy than the Ohlins or Wilburs and could go longer between rebuilds. He never mentioned TFX, but then maybe they hadn't been released yet... :bmw:
Was this recently? I bought my shocks in May and Ted recommended Wilbers. I would have to search my email to be sure, but I believe I gave him these priorities in this order:
1. Long-term durability
2. Ride quality
3. Handling/performance

And I asked him to tailor towards two-up fully loaded riding.

He recommended Wilbers front and rear. I only have a thousand miles on them, but so far I can say they definitely increased ground clearance and made the ride much firmer, particularly solo and even quite firm two-up and this with no preload. I haven't ridden yet loaded for travel, but I doubt 60 lbs more will make a material difference.

I am happy with the ground clearance, but I think the springs may be a touch on the stiff side, especially in front. And I see little difference in damping compared to stock. I figured my stock cdmpers had to be nearly shot after 55,000 miles. In retrospect, I think I would have been nearly as happy with just the hyper pro rear spring. The dampers were still in way better shape than I ever imagined.
 

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Was this recently? I bought my shocks in May and Ted recommended Wilbers. I would have to search my email to be sure, but I believe I gave him these priorities in this order:
1. Long-term durability
2. Ride quality
3. Handling/performance

And I asked him to tailor towards two-up fully loaded riding.

He recommended Wilbers front and rear. I only have a thousand miles on them, but so far I can say they definitely increased ground clearance and made the ride much firmer, particularly solo and even quite firm two-up and this with no preload. I haven't ridden yet loaded for travel, but I doubt 60 lbs more will make a material difference.

I am happy with the ground clearance, but I think the springs may be a touch on the stiff side, especially in front. And I see little difference in damping compared to stock. I figured my stock cdmpers had to be nearly shot after 55,000 miles. In retrospect, I think I would have been nearly as happy with just the hyper pro rear spring. The dampers were still in way better shape than I ever imagined.
I bought the F/R Yacugar E-RS shocks & hydro preload adjuster from Ted in late June 2014 and had them installed by another shop in Oxnard, CA on 7/8/14 at 30,870 miles. They were set up for stock height, 232 lbs rider (with AGATT :wink:), 15 lbs of luggage 100% of the time, no passengers, touring, and 210 NM spring, 22MM preload. Basically, cost me about $2K total, including installation. :bmw:
 

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I bought the F/R Yacugar E-RS shocks & hydro preload adjuster from Ted in late June 2014 and had them installed by another shop in Oxnard, CA on 7/8/14 at 30,870 miles. They were set up for stock height, 232 lbs rider (with AGATT :wink:), 15 lbs of luggage 100% of the time, no passengers, touring, and 210 NM spring, 22MM preload. Basically, cost me about $2K total, including installation. :bmw:
I just got a copy of my invoice so I can speak at least a little technical. Looks like the TFX will be set up with a 230NM spring and I can't read the preload. Could be 20mm or something else. I think he would have gone with the Yacugar with me also except for us running the bike over max weight and that is where the 15mm of hydro preload comes in. I think you can get a monster preloader on a Ohlin but Ted said that running that kind of weight would likely blow out the seal on the Ohlin preloader and the TFX was a 15mm beast of a preloader.
 
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Hey Gordon, are you installing the shock or are you having it done? I need to have the front and rear shocks replaced on the LT and I also would like to have it done before SMFR if possible with my schedule. I got a great deal on some Ohlins and have had them rebuilt already so I just need them installed.

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Hey Gordon, are you installing the shock or are you having it done? I need to have the front and rear shocks replaced on the LT and I also would like to have it done before SMFR if possible with my schedule. I got a great deal on some Ohlins and have had them rebuilt already so I just need them installed.

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Rear shock is a piece of cake so I will be doing it myself for sure. Front is a little more involved but not something I would farm out either, I just haven't come to the point where I can part with the additional funds yet. If you are looking for someone to help, I would be happy to, or you can just watch LOL! :grin:
 

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Front wasn't too bad, he says now that it is done! IIRC, removing the rear wheel too gives you enough angle. You take enough stuff off there are a few "might as wells" to do if you need to. Can't remember if you have to remove the fuel tank but you are at least that deep. I did the brake lines at the same time with air and fuel filters. I was more concerned if I would be able to do the rear...
 

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Front wasn't too bad, he says now that it is done! IIRC, removing the rear wheel too gives you enough angle. You take enough stuff off there are a few "might as wells" to do if you need to. Can't remember if you have to remove the fuel tank but you are at least that deep. I did the brake lines at the same time with air and fuel filters. I was more concerned if I would be able to do the rear...
I was able to do the front shock and spring without taking off the gas tank. See this video

Illinois BMW Riders - BMW K1200LT DIY Shock Replacement (all years)
 

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I looked at the video and he did not have the rubber donut on the shock when he inserted it. Maybe it was already glued to the frame??
 

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I looked at the video and he did not have the rubber donut on the shock when he inserted it. Maybe it was already glued to the frame??
I went back and looked at it closely full screen and it looks like the bushing stayed up on the frame when the old shock came out. I don't know if the new shocks come with new rubber or not.
 

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I bought the F/R Yacugar E-RS shocks & hydro preload adjuster from Ted in late June 2014 and had them installed by another shop in Oxnard, CA on 7/8/14 at 30,870 miles. They were set up for stock height, 232 lbs rider (with AGATT :wink:), 15 lbs of luggage 100% of the time, no passengers, touring, and 210 NM spring, 22MM preload. Basically, cost me about $2K total, including installation. :bmw:
Similar situation for me, but a little more weight. I think I had 230 rider, 150 passenger 50% of the time and 40+ lbs of luggage 25% of the time. So, I am running at or near gross a good share of the time. Ted recommended the Wilbers front and rear with 75-150 front spring with 13 clicks rebound damping and 13 mm preload. I assume the spring units are Nm, but they aren't listed on the card. The rear is 250-210 (not sure why reversed order from the front spring rate) with 12 clicks and 21 mm. I have not yet checked sag. After losing 6+ weeks this spring to my clutch job, I am just trying to ride it now!

It definitely rides stiff solo, but it no longer drags the center stand in every turn when riding two-up. That is a compromise I can live with.

What is the warranty on the Yacugar? And on the TFX or whatever that other brand is that someone recently purchased? The Wilbers have a 5 year warranty and recommend service every two years, but the warranty explicitly states that it is good for 5 years even if you do not perform the recommended service. And it says the cost of this every 2 years service (both time and any required replacement parts) is covered by Wilbers during the warranty. However, R&R and shipping is on the customer's nickel so I doubt many invest the effort to pull their shocks every other year to send off to a Wilbers shop.

I thought that was a pretty solid warranty. And the wording doesn't have only the normal US "free from defects in materials or workmanship" it says it guarantees the purchaser 5 years of "flawless condition and performance." Got to love those Germans.
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Similar situation for me, but a little more weight. I think I had 230 rider, 150 passenger 50% of the time and 40+ lbs of luggage 25% of the time. So, I am running at or near gross a good share of the time. Ted recommended the Wilbers front and rear with 75-150 front spring with 13 clicks rebound damping and 13 mm preload. I assume the spring units are Nm, but they aren't listed on the card. The rear is 250-210 (not sure why reversed order from the front spring rate) with 12 clicks and 21 mm. I have not yet checked sag. After losing 6+ weeks this spring to my clutch job, I am just trying to ride it now!

It definitely rides stiff solo, but it no longer drags the center stand in every turn when riding two-up. That is a compromise I can live with.

What is the warranty on the Yacugar? And on the TFX or whatever that other brand is that someone recently purchased? The Wilbers have a 5 year warranty and recommend service every two years, but the warranty explicitly states that it is good for 5 years even if you do not perform the recommended service. And it says the cost of this every 2 years service (both time and any required replacement parts) is covered by Wilbers during the warranty. However, R&R and shipping is on the customer's nickel so I doubt many invest the effort to pull their shocks every other year to send off to a Wilbers shop.

I thought that was a pretty solid warranty. And the wording doesn't have only the normal US "free from defects in materials or workmanship" it says it guarantees the purchaser 5 years of "flawless condition and performance." Got to love those Germans.
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Warranty for both the Yacugar and TFX are 5 years however I don't know if any recommended service outside defects is covered or additional. I think Ted said that the recommended service interval for the TFX was 16K miles. Not sure how that compares yet. And just a point of interest, Ted as I was talking to him referred to the Yacugar as a Yacugar/Hyperpro shock so they are related in some very close way. The Yacugar page has no mention of Hyperpro though.
 

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Warranty for both the Yacugar and TFX are 5 years however I don't know if any recommended service outside defects is covered or additional. I think Ted said that the recommended service interval for the TFX was 16K miles. Not sure how that compares yet. And just a point of interest, Ted as I was talking to him referred to the Yacugar as a Yacugar/Hyperpro shock so they are related in some very close way. The Yacugar page has no mention of Hyperpro though.
I have an image of a Ted with a spinning pointer on his desk and with each call he spins it and it stops on Yacugar, Wilbers, TFX, etc.
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I have an image of a Ted with a spinning pointer on his desk and with each call he spins it and it stops on Yacugar, Wilbers, TFX, etc.
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Oh, go ahead. Make me feel good about buying this TFX over what everyone else buys. I hope this isn't the first one he has sold based on a spinning pointer. :lol8:
 
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I looked at the video and he did not have the rubber donut on the shock when he inserted it. Maybe it was already glued to the frame??
I noted the same thing when I changed out my OEM springs for the Hyperpros this last winter. It caused me great consternation. I finally figured out that you had to have the lower rubber bushing as well as the upper. However, when I could not get the Spring/shock in place with the bushings. I had to file a mm off the A-arm to the shock/spring in place.
 

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I noted the same thing when I changed out my OEM springs for the Hyperpros this last winter. It caused me great consternation. I finally figured out that you had to have the lower rubber bushing as well as the upper. However, when I could not get the Spring/shock in place with the bushings. I had to file a mm off the A-arm to the shock/spring in place.
Went back and looked again and then again. There isn't much footage of the top of the old shock but I think that the rubber bushing is there. In that case, John's eagle eye is right again and it wasn't on the shock when Kirk put it in unless he did it off camera again which is possible. It was a lowering spring and shock so there would have been plenty of room as noted in the video. Just not quite that much :)
 

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Last weekend I assisted Pirate Don in some upgrades and service on his bike. A new ( rebuilt ) set of Ohlins for him, oil and filter, FD oil change, radiator flush. Had to make the L-bracket from some sheet stock i had to mount the preloader. Sorry but I didn't remember to take pictures of the front shock but as previously mentioned, I did have to grind a mm or so away from the top rim of the A-frame to get it in. Was a good day with a great guy. I will call that practice for the coming weekend because.

THE NEW SHOCK IS HERE..... THE NEW SHOCK IS HERE!!!!!!!!!



This weekend, it is the new spinomatic selected brand TFX shock from Ted Porter which nobody has ever used and the renovated front wheel installation with new Avon Roadrider, new EBC rotors and pads and new wheel bearings. New rear wheel with the battlax went on yesterday. I am gonna give Saddleman a run for his money on the Friday ride, or at least make him wait less time at the turn intersections :bike:
 

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