I was literally just sitting here finishing up a final patent application on a new product when I saw this... VERY FUNNY!Schweintechnik said:
Uh, I wasn't really trying to show off the ABS as much as I was trying to illustrate the pucker factor of losing all control in a full lockup and trusting that the outrigger that some engineer designed is going to keep you from high-siding. For the LTers on this forum, ABS is just a given, and therefore a little ho-hum. Of course it's not for the H-D crowd, however.motorman587 said:Do they have a video with ABS. If you show this someone, ie your sponse on ABS they have no clue. So if you had another video that shows straight line braking and go, this is what happens with ABS.
Maybe I'm just assuming everyone understood that this was an engineering/marketing demo designed to make non-ABS look bad and ABS look good. As the dealer's show video that Dean posted shows, they do also demonstrate the ABS system on a VROD without the outriggers, and I'm sure there's a demo rider out there that could probably brake hard through 30 feet of pea gravel on asphalt without ABS and not lose it. But it's a lot more sensational when you have the guy skidding sideways when he doesn't have ABS turned on, so obviously they're going to put the outriggers on and tell the rider to let things get completely out of control. I'd love to see someone slide sideways on pavement and come to an upright stop on any heavyweight motorcycle without "needing outriggers".rando said:Okay, I gotta say, the outriggers are plain stupid. If you need those, you need to be DRIVING A CAR!!! Yes the pucker factor is pretty hihg in that situation, but the rider is also giving some body english to stay on there. If you do as the rider did and don;t know what's coming, chances are an untrained rider will pop off the high side regardless, imo. And what kinda liability issue are those things anyway?