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Howdy,

My daughter, Molly, has an assignment regarding motorcycles. If you are an LEO then, if you wouldn't mind, please reply to any of the questions below that you feel like. Some Bio info like rank and years experience would be great.

Just answer in a reply, or you can PM me if you'd prefer. Molly and I thank you very much.

1. What kind of motorcycle accidents do you see most often, e.g., solo, hit stationary object, collision with auto/truck, collision with other m/c?

2. Are motorcycle accidents worse, better , or about the same as car accidents regarding injuries for the driver?

3. Which, in your opinion, is the safest model of motorcycle helmet?

4. Do you think that all motorcyclists should wear protective clothing while traveling?

5. Have you ever been in a motorcycle accident? (If so explain).

6 What kind of protective gear were you wearing when in your accident?

7. What advice would you give to new motorcyclists?

8. Were you a “safe” motorcyclist when you first started (by your current standards)?

9. Do you have any regrets about your first year of riding a motorcycle?

10 What are your feelings about driving at night?

11. What are the most common offenses you see made by motorcyclists?

12. What offenses that you see made by motorcyclists are the most dangerous?

13. What are your main safety concerns about riding a motorcycle?


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1. What kind of motorcycle accidents do you see most often, e.g., solo, hit stationary object, collision with auto/truck, collision with other m/c? New riders "fail to negotiate curves alot and impact stationary objects. Another is the cager turning left in front of the biker.

2. Are motorcycle accidents worse, better , or about the same as car accidents regarding injuries for the driver? The rider was injured in 100% of the MC accidents I was at. Usually broken legs or arms.

3. Which, in your opinion, is the safest model of motorcycle helmet? Full face for sure. It's simple to see the road rash on the front of a helmet and realize what the rider's face would have looked like.

4. Do you think that all motorcyclists should wear protective clothing while traveling? This is a tricky one...I am not in favor of any law that protects one from oneself, but I think you would be crazy to ride unprotected.

5. Have you ever been in a motorcycle accident? (If so explain). Luckily, no.

6 What kind of protective gear were you wearing when in your accident? N/A

7. What advice would you give to new motorcyclists? Practice alot in parking lots before going on the road. If you have no experienced rider to learn from, take a safety course.

8. Were you a “safe” motorcyclist when you first started (by your current standards)? I was 18. As far a riding skills, yes. As far as saftey equipment, no.

9. Do you have any regrets about your first year of riding a motorcycle? No.

10 What are your feelings about driving at night? I don't like it. You can't see the grooves and potholes in the road and generally, stock lighting is poor.

11. What are the most common offenses you see made by motorcyclists? Speeding, lane splitting, careless driving. All usually by kids on sport bikes.

12. What offenses that you see made by motorcyclists are the most dangerous? Lane splitting. I think it is just a hair above suicide.

13. What are your main safety concerns about riding a motorcycle? Cagers don't see me and turn in front of me.

I retired recently after 25 years of service having worked in a suburban/urban community. Hope this helps you out.
 

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1. What kind of motorcycle accidents do you see most often, e.g., solo, hit stationary object, collision with auto/truck, collision with other m/c?
collision with auto/truck

2. Are motorcycle accidents worse, better , or about the same as car accidents regarding injuries for the driver?
motorcycle accidents are worse...rider is almost always transported to hospital

3. Which, in your opinion, is the safest model of motorcycle helmet?
full face helmet

4. Do you think that all motorcyclists should wear protective clothing while traveling?
I think they should, but don't think it should be legislatively mandated

5. Have you ever been in a motorcycle accident? (If so explain).
Yes. I was at work responding to a call (traffic accident) on my police motor. It was dark, and the street I was on was an unlit residential street. There was a Rubbermaid trash can that had blown out into the middle of my lane, and before I could evade it, I centerpunched it...lodging it under my front tire. The bike flipped to the left, pitching me off (at approx. 40 mph). I tumbled about 75 feet, and the bike went approx. 200 feet.

6 What kind of protective gear were you wearing when in your accident?
I was wearing a Taylor's Leatherwear leather jacket, Harley-Davidson Gore-Tex gloves, motor breeches and boots. My only injuries were two broken fingers and a small raspberry on my left knee. My jacket had some scuffing on the left arm/shoulder and the right arm. My helmet had a pretty good scrape on the left side, and my pants were torn in the left knee. My gloves had a couple of small punctures and some scuffing.

7. What advice would you give to new motorcyclists? Take a rider safety course and practice, practice, practice before going out on the street

8. Were you a “safe” motorcyclist when you first started (by your current standards)? Not really. My first bike was an '82 KZ750 that my Dad bought me when I turned 16. He took me out to a prking lot to practice several times before I could solo on the street, but after I got turned loose on my own I was hell on wheels. I never crashed (amazing), but my riding gear usually consisted of jeans and a t-shirt.

9. Do you have any regrets about your first year of riding a motorcycle?Not at all

10 What are your feelings about driving at night?I don't prefer it, but do it. I ride as though I'm invisible to cagers (even more so than during daylight), and now really watch for road debris (see queston #5).

11. What are the most common offenses you see made by motorcyclists? Usually weaving in and out of traffic at high rates of speed

12. What offenses that you see made by motorcyclists are the most dangerous? Same as above

13. What are your main safety concerns about riding a motorcycle? Being invisible to cagers, and the fact that even if they do see you they're more than likely to pull in front of you/merge over into you.

Bio: 12 years as LEO...last 3 on a motor (current assignment).
 

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1. What kind of motorcycle accidents do you see most often, e.g., solo, hit stationary object, collision with auto/truck, collision with other m/c?

Collision with other vehicles, LEFT TURN VEHICLES.

2. Are motorcycle accidents worse, better , or about the same as car accidents regarding injuries for the driver?

Worse

3. Which, in your opinion, is the safest model of motorcycle helmet?

Fullface, than flip ups, than 3/4 helmets than 1/2 helmets.

4. Do you think that all motorcyclists should wear protective clothing while traveling?

Yes.

5. Have you ever been in a motorcycle accident? (If so explain).

Had three. My younger years. Car made a u-turn in front of me I hit the side. Sprain ankle.
Second hit a deer. Road rash to the elbow.
Third was last year at football came I was working. Lady pulled out in front. I was lane splitting. No injuries. Thank ABS and the RTP I was riding.

6 What kind of protective gear were you wearing when in your accident?
In the first just helmet that I remember.
Second helmet, boots and gloves but long sleeve shirt, not leather or that is why I got road rash.
Third was uniform, short sleeve, boots, helmet (flip up) gloves, bullet proof vest.

7. What advice would you give to new motorcyclists?

Training, MSF, track days at race track.

8. Were you a “safe” motorcyclist when you first started (by your current standards)?

Heck no.

9. Do you have any regrets about your first year of riding a motorcycle?

No. I wish I knew more about going to training or wish my parents had know about training, but then I do not think training was a big deal as it now.

10 What are your feelings about driving at night?

Deers and dogs still scary me. We sometimes work late at night.

11. What are the most common offenses you see made by motorcyclists?

No helmet. Young folks speeding with no license. The death rate motorcyclist has gone up 81% in Florida since the helmet law went away.

12. What offenses that you see made by motorcyclists are the most dangerous?

No helmet, no training or license.

13. What are your main safety concerns about riding a motorcycle?

The people around me. You must always be scanning. Front, side and rear. Once you relax is the most dangurist. I been on motors 12 years and about 100000, escorts, speeding, parardes etc........ I still have that respect for the motor. Once I get to cocky, is the day I park it.

Been an officer for 18 years, still going, and the last 12 years on motors. I am also one of our Traffic Homicide Investigators and have done 28 traffic fatalities in the city in those 12 years.
 

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Not a leo, but I would think alcohol would be a MAJOR player in Items 11-13
 

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!. Only saw one, and that was mine, me running into the back on another cycle, totally my fault, looking at the GPS map instead of concentrating.

2. Always worse.

3.Full face or flip with face down, landed on my chin with flip down thank goodness.

4. Of course.

5. Sept 12th 2005 ran into a mate of mine in Holland, he mistakenly stopped at an amber light which was to bring your attention to the overhead green light 100 yards down the road, these overhead lights lights are new to us in the UK, always having eye level 'street lamps', but my fault without question.

6. Brand New Cordura with CE (European approved) armour installed, proper boots, gloves, helmet Etc. Armour turned in the sleeve causing a burn through on the sleeve giving me a bloody elbow. albeit I suffered a broken clavicle and ribs, but that was just through the thump on the road, doubt if much would have prevented that.

7. Always have an 'escape route' planned should a cager do the worst, If you are overtaking him/her at 100mph, then be thinking, if he/she pulls out, where do I go?? Nowhere to go? then don't do it!

8. Nope.

9. Nope.

10. I prefer driving at night.

11. Wheelies and doughnuts, just plain stupid.

12. As above.

13. Getting run over should you fall off. New safety barriers in the UK & Europe that use wires instead of metal barriers, these things are just no more than cheese graters to motorcyclists and the end result does not bear thinking about.

(14) Enjoy your motorcycle and try not to think too much of the consequenses of an accident, but be alert and please do treat every other road user as a potential 'hit man'
 

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OK I got it now from another thread...Law Enforcement Officer...bloody hell I've been one of those for 30 years and we never get called that....we be called Pig, Rozzer or Cop, Filth and other such names, but I doubt it will make much difference when I knock on a Ned's door (NED = non educated deliquant for our non UK readers) :D
 

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1. What kind of motorcycle accidents do you see most often, e.g., solo, hit stationary object, collision with auto/truck, collision with other m/c?

I would say 95% of the time it the other operators fault generally a "T-bone" type accident where the operator of a car fails to yield the right away. The other accidents are generally caused by reckless motorcycle operation from speeding and racing.

2. Are motorcycle accidents worse, better, or about the same as car accidents regarding injuries for the driver?

You will generally always be safer in a car. Almost all motorcycle accidents require a trip to the local hospital.

3. Which, in your opinion, is the safest model of motorcycle helmet?

No particular model I would recommend a full face helmet.

4. Do you think that all motorcyclists should wear protective clothing while traveling?

Yes I do.

5. Have you ever been in a motorcycle accident? (If so explain).

Yes at low speeds when the bike slid out on the slippery road way. I have been very lucky.

6 What kind of protective gear were you wearing when in your accident?

Full face helmet, leather coat, leather gloves, and leather boots.

7. What advice would you give to new motorcyclists?

Never consume alcohol when riding a motorcycle. Always ride defensively as you will soon learn that you have a greater awareness of your surroundings as compared to those that operate a car.

8. Were you a “safe” motorcyclist when you first started (by your current standards)? I was more foolish when I was younger. "It will never happen to me" type attitude. I'm glad I didn't have my LT when I was 18 or I probably wouldn't be typing to you now.

9. Do you have any regrets about your first year of riding a motorcycle?

No I loved it.

10 What are your feelings about driving at night?

Again be careful in Wisconsin we have a lot of deer running around at night. I can't say enough about proper lighting. If you plan to ride allot at night pick up some auxiliary lighting both front and rear.

11. What are the most common offenses you see made by motorcyclists?

The younger fearless group-speeding and just plain reckless driving.

12. What offenses that you see made by motorcyclists are the most dangerous?

Attempting to flee the Police. There will only be two ends to the story. Number 1 you will end up in the hospital or morgue and Number 2 you will get away and try it again until you end up in situation Number 1.

13. What are your main safety concerns about riding a motorcycle?

Other motorist.

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Thanks, got what we need.

A big thank you to all that replied.

Molly is very happy with the responses and when Molly's happy, I'm happy ;)


Thanks again,

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24+ years with Napa PD. Patrol bureau and traffic bureau assignments.

1. What kind of motorcycle accidents do you see most often, e.g., solo, hit stationary object, collision with auto/truck, collision with other m/c?

Working in a city I see bike vs. other motor vehicle most often.

2. Are motorcycle accidents worse, better , or about the same as car accidents regarding injuries for the driver?

Usually worse.

3. Which, in your opinion, is the safest model of motorcycle helmet?

A full face offers the most protection, and I do not believe the claims made by others that it reduces vision and hearing. A standard needs to be set, and DOT is currently that standard. It may not be perfect, but it is a standard. The safest helmet is also one that is comfortable so the rider will wear it.

4. Do you think that all motorcyclists should wear protective clothing while traveling?

Yes. But that does not mean I support legislation to mandate that. I, personally, don’t believe in helmet laws. But I would never get on a bike without wearing a helmet.

5. Have you ever been in a motorcycle accident? (If so explain).

Yes. 1978, outside of West Fort Hood, Texas. I was riding back to my barracks at West Fort from the main post. It was a warm summer day, but while I was at the main post a thunderstorm had come through. I took a two-lane Farm-Market road on my way back. I approached a 4-way stop sign at a speed that I had done many times before.

As a new rider I failed to realize the quick rain had mixed with the dust, dirt and grease on the road surface. The usually high coefficient of the road surface dropped to that of dog snot. I braked with the same force like I always had and I went into a rear wheel skid. Then I looked down. That was mistake number two. I ended up belly flopping onto the asphalt and sliding to the shoulder. An old rancher in a pick up stopped and helped me get my bike up.

6 What kind of protective gear were you wearing when in your accident?

A helmet (although it was a 3/4 open face). Other that than, a thin pair of leather gloves, my cotton fatigues and jump boots.

7. What advice would you give to new motorcyclists?

Take a riding course.

8. Were you a “safe” motorcyclist when you first started (by your current standards)?

I lacked today’s quality gear and I lacked experience. But in spite of being a 19-year-old GI, I never rode intentionally recklessly. So, in that context, yes.

9. Do you have any regrets about your first year of riding a motorcycle?

I didn’t ride enough! I thought being an hour or two away from the post was a long ride. I recall myself and a couple other riders from my platoon taking off for a long day’s ride. We rode from Ft. Hood to Huntsville, TX, and back. To me, back then, that was a big deal and a long ride. Today, heck, that would have been just long enough for a tank of gas, and maybe an early lunch.

10 What are your feelings about driving at night?

With proper lighting I love it. Just a couple weeks ago the sun went down on me in Baker, CA, just after I rode through the Mojave Preserve. I was on my way to meet a group of others from this board in Furnace Creek. I had a blast riding up 127/178 and out 190 after dark.

The desert is a great place to ride at night, the cool air, clear night sky and little traffic. But again, my bike has good lighting so I can read the road ahead and give myself time to react to road hazards. And that also means not being as “enthusiastic” with the throttle as one might be during the day.


11. What are the most common offenses you see made by motorcyclists?

Besides the cheap beanie helmets worn by the cruiser types, then speed.

12. What offenses that you see made by motorcyclists are the most dangerous?

Speed too fast for road conditions. Example:
Four-lane boulevard, posted at 30. 85th percentile of speed is maybe 33 or 34. Two eastbound lanes stopped for a red signal, a 16 year old rider on a 600cc Honda sport bike, splits the lanes up to the front just about the time the light turns green. Witnesses say he wasted no time a banging through his gears and pulling away from the two lanes of traffic behind him. One witness swears the rider hit one-hundred MPH. Doubtful, we later estimated 60 MPH range. But it gives you idea of what was going on.

A couple blocks away an elderly woman is getting into her very large sedan parked along the south curb. She looks over her left shoulder and sees the two lanes of cars, a couple blocks away, just starting out from the red light. She has lots of time. So she begins a slow, wide U-turn across both eastbound lanes. The Honda was literally impaled on the side of the sedan. The rider, wearing a full face helmet, baggie shorts, an unbuttoned cotton shirt, and I think tennis shoes, was flipped down on his back onto the hood of the car. DOA.

13. What are your main safety concerns about riding a motorcycle?

Other drivers. Too many are brain dead behind the wheel.
 

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Thank you Tom, I'll get this to Molly for her report.


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Chase up Ian "Onions" on the Aussie board, he is a Policeman as well, get his view as as one of interest from one who lives abroad of the USA
 

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Malki said:
OK I got it now from another thread...Law Enforcement Officer...bloody hell I've been one of those for 30 years and we never get called that....we be called Pig, Rozzer or Cop, Filth and other such names, but I doubt it will make much difference when I knock on a Ned's door (NED = non educated deliquant for our non UK readers) :D
Hopefully this hijack won't be too bad since Molly has the info she needs for her report. So a question to Malki: What is the basis of police officers being called "Rozzers". I have wondered this since I heard the term multiple times in the Long Way Round series.

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1. What kind of motorcycle accidents do you see most often, e.g., solo, hit stationary object, collision with auto/truck, collision with other m/c?

Singe rider hit by auto driver turning in front of rider

2. Are motorcycle accidents worse, better , or about the same as car accidents regarding injuries for the driver?

Far more injuries

3. Which, in your opinion, is the safest model of motorcycle helmet?

Full Face

4. Do you think that all motorcyclists should wear protective clothing while traveling?

Yes

5. Have you ever been in a motorcycle accident? (If so explain).

Yes, Dodged dog in roadway at 80 m.p.h., lost control, ejected from motorcycle onto busy interstate, walked into minivan traveling 80 m.p.h. while trying to walk out of roadway. Half helmet, no jacket or gloves. Head injury, 4 broken ribs, punctured lung, both arms broken in 3 places, left ring finger stripped, as well as full body road rash. Minivan totaled out by my body. Motorcycle totaled out by flipping several times over several hundred yards of travel.

6 What kind of protective gear were you wearing when in your accident?

HJC Half helmet

7. What advice would you give to new motorcyclists?

Attend every Motorcycle Safety Foundation Riders Course available and always wear protective clothing and helmet.

8. Were you a “safe” motorcyclist when you first started (by your current standards)?

Yes

9. Do you have any regrets about your first year of riding a motorcycle?

No

10 What are your feelings about driving at night?

Buy all the lights that will fit on your motorcycle and use them every time.

11. What are the most common offenses you see made by motorcyclists?

No helmet or protective clothing. No education. Very little riding experience.

12. What offenses that you see made by motorcyclists are the most dangerous?

Showing off, wheelies, etc.

13. What are your main safety concerns about riding a motorcycle?

Other drivers, moving and stationary objects in the roadway and animals.

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