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That had to hurt!


 

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There is a right way to split lanes dictated by caution, and yes one must watch for vehicles changing lanes without checking when their drivers see an "opportunity" (empty space in the next lane). Happened to me once in the early 80s. Lesson learned.
I hope the rider is OK.
 

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It looked like to me that the guy in the truck did that on purpose. Like no one is going to pass me up and if I have to sit in traffic everybody does too. I actually had something similar happen to me. Traffic was at a stand still for hours. I proceeded to go around vehicles because I could. Then I had someone block my way intentionally. The guy said that no was going to go around him so I didn't argue, I just stayed right there. A little later rescue vehicles came thru and the guy had to move his car and when he did that, I was out of there and gone.
 

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Yep turn signal wAs blinking not brightly, but it was on
 

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haughty said:
Yep turn signal wAs blinking not brightly, but it was on
And most likely the driver never thought of checking the mirror and was surprised to collide with a bike. It is one of the risks of splitting lanes that can only be mitigated by careful riding and watching for vehicles "body language".
 

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Not saying I've never done it but I guess that is why it is illegal in most places.
 

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MountianMama said:
Not saying I've never done it but I guess that is why it is illegal in most places.
Actually it is legal in most of the world AND California.
 

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Going to out think what the cagers are wishing they could do ... better be thinking a LOT faster and smarter. OUCH !
 

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I couldn't help thinking the following while watching the video:

* The rider was obviously inexperienced. What was he or she looking at when the safety situation changed? What was he or she actually "seeing"?

* The rider was going too fast for conditions. The vehicles on the right were stopped, including the large tractor-trailers. Why didn't the rider slow down when the vehicles on the left slowed down?

* Why was the rider recording the ride? Was the camera a distraction for the rider? Did the rider create other distractions for himself or herself?

* Why did the rider miss all the obvious clues? Obvious clues included the turn signal on the truck, the fact that it started to close the space, its turned front tires, and the open space on the right.

* Most important: Why didn't the rider apply his or her brakes? There was plenty of time to stop, even after the truck committed to the lane change.

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As someone with many years' experience riding Southern California freeways, what was shown on the video is a common occurrence. It should be anticipated and expected by riders. If I had carried a camera over those many years, I could show you hours and hours of video where drivers invaded my space, cut me off, and demonstrated all manner of unsafe and reckless driving behaviors, most due to lack of attention, but also a growing number of drivers who use their vehicles with deliberate, aggressive intent to threaten others.

In my opinion, any rider planning to share lanes must be prepared and equipped to handle the situation shown in the video, and many other situations that may arise. If not, then they have no business sharing lanes, until they are well and truly ready.
 

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+1. And I agree the rider was going too fast for the circumstances.
 

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Don't know where this was shot, but it doesn't look like California plates on the cars he passed. If it isn't California, the driver of the small truck has no reason to expect a motorcycle in between the lanes. He passed the semi and turned into an opening. If you are going to lane split where it is not legal and therefore unexpected by the average car driver, extra caution is called for.

Judging from just the short video it looks like the bike rider could have done a better job. This one is on him in my opinion.
 

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Oh! what was I thinking.
Country and western song. And exactly what was the rider thinking. Passing is usually better done on the left and many times you can see some kind of eye contact in the vehicle ahead rear outside mirror. Most importantly think ahead and give yourself a way out if your route is blocked or some situation changes.
I guess the rider was ok I think I heard cussing.
ride safe :bmw:
 

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Yes, my investigation would read M/C rider "at fault," speed to fast for conditions (HUA).
 

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IN NC splitting in not legal. So I wouldn't do it. If it were legal, I would likely not unless I felt completely safe. The only time I've ever approached splitting was in some sort of interstate backup and bike was beginning to heat up. I pulled to shoulder and went slowly up shoulder watching for someone to exactly what happened in the video. PPl are mean, inattentive, etc. You can't be too careful out there.

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