BMW Luxury Touring Community banner
1 - 9 of 9 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
2 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Hi all!
This is my first post here.
I have an 05 GS, which I love. But I get the itch to update.
Test rode the GT and loved it. Still need to test ride a GTL.

Those of you who have/had both bikes (K1600 and 1200GSA): which would be your choice for long distance? Say, if you did an IBA event?

Thanks!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
60 Posts
ValleyGSer said:
Hi all!
This is my first post here.
I have an 05 GS, which I love. But I get the itch to update.
Test rode the GT and loved it. Still need to test ride a GTL.

Those of you who have/had both bikes (K1600 and 1200GSA): which would be your choice for long distance? Say, if you did an IBA event?

Thanks!
Congrats, got GTL in may amazing bike, remember you can take off the top case on gtl, thats what im doing right now.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
418 Posts
I have the following:
2001 K1200LT (Bought new; 119,000 miles)
2009 R1200GS Adventure (Bought used w/1504 miles; 19, 900 miles)
2012 K1600 GTL (Bought new; 13,500 miles).

Two official IBA Saddlesore 1000s with the K1200LT.
Many more undocumented long distance rides with all three.
Numerous overnight trips to Tampa and DC.
LT is the most comfortable, even with my Bushtec trailer.
Great protection from the elements.
GTL is next. Not as comfortable as the LT. But much faster acceleration.
Protection not as good as LT, but better than the GSA.
No vibrations.
GSA is a great long-distance ride in it's own right.
I've done four hours between fuel stops.
The Sargent seat made the biggest difference, along with the Ohlin shocks.
Replaced the stock shocks at 5000 miles.
Loved the difference that they made for the LT.
The GSA has more cargo carrying capacity.
The Bushtec trailer eliminates that advantage on my LT and GTL.
But, it's still a twin, so little more vibration.
Hope this helps.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
4,897 Posts
I think "comfort" has a lot to do with the individual. I'm 5-10, 150 lbs... Your numbers might vary..

Just like seats, or your seat! Some fit the stock, some don't.

Coming from an 02 LT with 50,000 miles and several long rides, I find the K1600 GTL as comfortable as my LT or more so. The only thing I did for comfort to my GTL was add an Air Hawk and lowered the pegs. I did an Iron Butt with the GTL with beads on the seat and could have gone further.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,033 Posts
I have a 2007 gsa and a 2011 k1600gt. Both have Russell Seats, peg relocation kits and aftermarket windshields adjusted to make the bikes fit my 6'4" frame like a glove. I have done 1000 mile days on both. The gsa is better if you have rougher roads to travel on. The GT is faster and more powerful and the bike I take when I tour with my wife. I love both bikes. Which ever one you buy the key is to spend the time and money getting the aftermarket products that fine tune the fit to your specifications.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2 Posts
Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Thanks all for great feedback. This is awesome.
Obviously, the perfect solution would be a K1600 AND a 1200GSA in the garage.
Aside from a rather low WAF (wife acceptance factor), these are beamers we are discussing here, so there is that little issue of capital.
Of course, the discourse is further complicated by:
Should one opt for a GT or a GTL?
Should one wait for the 13' models?
Should one opt for the current (2012) GSA or wait for the water cooled version?
And, if waiting for the water cooled version, do I get (again) the first year model or wait for bugs to be worked out?

I am sure most/all of you went though many of these same questions and each answered in his/her own way.

In the final analysis though, in spite of leading ourselves to believe any of this is a rational decision making process, we all know deep down what we'll do - because it is what we WANT to do. Sometimes though, it takes time to realize what it is we really want to do. That's where I am now.

So please continue with your generous sharing, as it is very helpful, to me and (I believe) others as well!

Ride safe...
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
51 Posts
I am contemplating the same decision. And have the same low WAF. LOL I too would like to hear others opinions to help me decide.

Thank you for posing this question.

Rick
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
208 Posts
I own both a GS-A and a GTL, both have non-stock seats with backrests and windscreens. Both have "highway" pegs to allow me to stretch my legs occasionally, although I rarely use them, and only one at a time, just because I don't like the modified wind flow.

Lets get the issue of the GT vs GTL out of the way first: If the bulk of your riding is secondary roads, solo, and you "fit" (generally means under age 60 and in decent physical condition), the GT may be just the trick for your only bike. Otherwise, GTL.

GS or GS-A: Mine has the Australian electronic cruise control added. VERY expensive, and worth ever penny! Without that, I'd leave this machine, or any other motorcycle without electronic cruise control, out as a everyday long distance cruiser. Once past that, this is primarily a solo machine. A bit awkward getting the passenger on board, although its no problem once they're on. These machines tend to have semi knobby tires, which last pretty well, but tend to make the whole machine vibrate a bit at elevated speeds, which can become a bit tiring, plus the engine has noticeable vibration, although not nearly as noticeable as tire vibration when the tires are new. If you can deal with that, they make a superb long distance machine. Thousand mile days become just a matter of staying awake! The sound system sucks! Oh, wait a minute, it doesn't have one! :D I've added sound to hear my radar detector, GPS, and music, works fine, but its surprising how little spare space there is on this giant machine.

GT(L): Has built in cruise control, fantastic braking, well actually, most everything about this bike is fantastic, although I'm not fond of the standard sound system. If it had an easy way to integrate a radar detector, It would be acceptable, but an aftermarket sound system solves that issue. I believe it is a candidate for the smoothest motor I've ever owned, including two GL1800 Goldwings, and a six cylinder CBX. The GT(L) is very agile for such a big bike (parked next to a sport bike, it looks HUGE), and a joy to ride on ANY rode, although as usual, secondary roads are more fun that the interstate. Fuel mile is pretty similar to the GS(A) during local riding, but at Interstate speeds (75-80 MPH) the slippery shape of the GT(L) allows it to consume a bit less fuel that the GS(A). Passenger mounting is pretty much routine on the GT(L), and the massive torque this machine has makes getting the extra weight up to speed effortless. (0-100 is one short scream LOL)

Bottom line: with a few mod's, either makes a fine tourer. Stock, I'd give the nod to the GT(L). I'd rather ride either one than a Honda Goldwing, although there's lots of riders that would disagree with me. I'd suggest that you try a four hour plus ride on each, then decide. A SHORT ride on either won't tell you much, especially on the GT(L), whose electronic throttle and plethora of gadget take some getting used to.

Hope that helped.
 
1 - 9 of 9 Posts
Top