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Im interested in knowing what issues you might have had with your K1200LT (anything big or small) and what was done to fix it. Mine seems to have been plagued so I wonder if anyone else is having trouble out here. Also interested in knowing what the year and mileage of your LT is and kind of milage you have before any engine trouble repairs.
 

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Engine troubles are rare. The final drives seem to be the Achilles Heel with the LT.


If you can elaborate on your comment that your bike is "plagued" with issues, it might help.

All in all, the LT is as dependable as any other motorcycle out on the market today. People who occasionally visit this site often get the impression that the LT is a horrible, unreliable bike. That is because those who use this site are meticulously trying to analyze and over analyze their machines. The over analyzation (is this a word?) is meant as a means to bond with others LT zealots (meself included
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That is not to say the BMW does not produce lemons. Harley, Honda and Kawa all produce the occasional hunk of junk as well. You may very well have one. As my old man used to say "better hope you're getting something built first thing at 9 am on a Monday rather than a last one of the day 4:45 special built on a Friday."

What problems are you experiencing?

BTW, you user name- very negative.
 

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You also might mention whether you purchased new or used. If used, are you confident all maintenance was performed on schedule and by a competent technician?
 

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I gather you are not happy with BMW. If this is true, cut and run ASAP!!!

There are many bikes to choose from in this world. It's a short life and one has to be happy about acquisitions in life or spend precious time in misery if not.

Good luck...
 

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Engine troubles are rare. The final drives seem to be the Achilles Heel with the LT.


If you can elaborate on your comment that your bike is "plagued" with issues, it might help.

All in all, the LT is as dependable as any other motorcycle out on the market today. People who occasionally visit this site often get the impression that the LT is a horrible, unreliable bike. That is because those who use this site are meticulously trying to analyze and over analyze their machines. The over analyzation (is this a word?) is meant as a means to bond with others LT zealots (meself included
;) ).

That is not to say the BMW does not produce lemons. Harley, Honda and Kawa all produce the occasional hunk of junk as well. You may very well have one. As my old man used to say "better hope you're getting something built first thing at 9 am on a Monday rather than a last one of the day 4:45 special built on a Friday."

What problems are you experiencing?

BTW, you user name- very negative.

I hate to say it but my LT will probably be my last BMW. In my opinion, it's a decent bike but has too many problems. It's my own fault, I got sucked into the whole BMW quality speech. I thought the higher initial cost and nameplate would buy me some piece of mind knowing that the bike would hold up better.
I was thinking about the GT, now I'm reading about rear drive issues. Sure, the reviews have been great, Cycle World just listed it as the best sport tourer. I'm just not prepared to take another chance. I'd rather take my chances with the new Kawasaki Councours.
I know there are plenty guys out there pounding miles with no problems, I can only speak of my experience. It's hard for me to defend a company that refuses to acknowledge, correct or even admit of a mistake that could cause death or great harm to the user. I'm disappointed with their product...
 

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a mistake that could cause death or great harm to the user.
What mistake is that then? I don't know of any "dangerous" mistake. I remember there was some troll recently complaining he was unable to perform circus tricks on his LT and so decided the bike was too dangerous to ride. Perhaps you could enlighten us?
 

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Tom,

If you can provide some details on your problem I bet someone here can tell you what is likely wrong with your bike. The engine seems to be one of the stong points with the bike but small things like vacuum leaks or even a clogged fuel vapor cannister can cause problems.

Let us know what your symptoms are and we'll try to help out. There are several riders not too far from you that may be able to lend a hand also.

Good Luck,
Kevin
 

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What mistake is that then? I don't know of any "dangerous" mistake. I remember there was some troll recently complaining he was unable to perform circus tricks on his LT and so decided the bike was too dangerous to ride. Perhaps you could enlighten us?

Awfully defensive there aren't we? If you feel as that things such as rear drives failing and spewing lube on the rear tire and OEM valve stems fracturing are commonplace and safe, you sir deserve a Darwin Award.
 

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May I make a suggestion, that I will probably get chastised by this, but I would grab your favorite drink(s), and digest this web site for a couple of days. You will find more than enough information to answer your non-specific questions.
 

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My 02 LTC was the last BMW I'd buy..

Until I bought my 06 K12S, thats the last bmw I'll buy...

Until I buy the next one!! :dance:

I don't know if anyone has had more warranty claims then me on both bikes (just my luck I guess)...I just got my S back a few weeks ago after 2 months in the shop, bad tranny, clutch and basket, a $4k bill to BMW from my dealer for that work.

I like all kinds of bikes, but I own no cage and IMHO there is nothing better (for me anyway) out there to complete my mission on.

I think beemers just fit my buttz better or something..

The LTC is cool but this SSSSsss is the katzass for one-up riding, 15k on that baby now and I'll see 250k before I even think about dumping it.

All a matter of perspective I suppose...oh yeah, and how much loose change you have around, I've spent plenty on maintenance at the dealers since I let them take care of these bikes while I ride the snotoutta them:)
 

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I was hoping that going from HD to BMW would eliminate leaking seals, oil leaks.

But, every time I lean into a corner, I smile, remembering that if I hit a bump, I'm not going to have to fight a big change in the wheel base.

It will be interesting to know what bike you buy that you enjoy as much as the LT, that doesn't have any problems.

Oh. Guess I forgot to mention. Since its just me now in my house, and I rarely used my car, I took it "off the road" last year.

I get to LT every where now. I do my weekly grocery shopping at night, on my way home from my weekly ceramics class. Nice and cool around 9:30 PM, upper 80s.

Bob, 0h 0h LT

PS: I frequent here, because the main thrust is to share info, and solve problems.
 

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Amen to that sentiment. I used this site as my main resource when looking at LTs. I found the known issues and was able to figure out sorta what I wanted to look for and a person on here actually emailed when he found (in his local classifieds) the bike I eventually bought. great group, more than willing to help and get folks moving. Even if we do still argue over which oil is best..... LOL

Randy
 

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lastbmw4me said:
Im interested in knowing what issues you might have had with your K1200LT (anything big or small) and what was done to fix it. Mine seems to have been plagued so I wonder if anyone else is having trouble out here. Also interested in knowing what the year and mileage of your LT is and kind of milage you have before any engine trouble repairs.
Funny......One post from this dude-no specifics-and no follow up???
Forget Him.

Mike
 

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I sometimes think that I would be happier with this bike or that. Then the thottle opens up, and that big black machine gets smaller, and more nimble. I am riding like an old man, passenger on, motor humming and I look at the speedo and it says 110, yikes, what happened to that old man cruiser that I bought. Why is this thing so fast and smooth, why do my HD riding friends want to stop every 2 hours, why do they drive so slow, why are those tractors they're riding so loud. No I won't buy another one, I'll probably buy 5 more.
 

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I sometimes think that I would be happier with this bike or that. Then the thottle opens up, and that big black machine gets smaller, and more nimble. I am riding like an old man, passenger on, motor humming and I look at the speedo and it says 110, yikes, what happened to that old man cruiser that I bought. Why is this thing so fast and smooth, why do my HD riding friends want to stop every 2 hours, why do they drive so slow, why are those tractors they're riding so loud. No I won't buy another one, I'll probably buy 5 more.
 

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Details,,, you want details

I appreciate all your comments, good and bad. Since i did nothing to insult any of you, besides not being happy with a BMW (which I akin to the King's New Clothes Syndrome), i would like to say to the people who had nothing nice to say,,, get a life and relax! I do not have a lot of time to spend on these sites and will get on when I can. Also, I'm not here for your abuse, I got married for that purpose. As you noticed, I can be a little sarcastic too, so read on with a grain of salt and enjoy my misadventures! Just for the record, I am 47, riding since I was a kid, Licensed and riding every day since 16. I am a MSF Rider Coach and currently own 20 (soon to be 21, pssst don't tell my wife, I learned forgiveness is always easier to get than permission!) They range from small to large, old to new, 2 and 4 stroke, 2 and 3 wheel (5 if you count the trailer), 1 to 6 cylinder and a rotary thrown in for good measure, so I am up on riding. Here are the details of the BMW, I bought the bike new, with 17 miles on it (didnt want to buy any one elses junk). A friend also recommended it (who later sold his BMW and bought an 06 Wing and LOVES it! (We're NOT talking anymore, just kidding) Then I swallowed the dealers horror stories of the new Goldwings hook line and sinker and heard every good thing short of Ed McMahon coming to look for me if I bought the LT! It now has just under 18K with all services, including 18K (except for oil and filter, which I did with dealer purchased supplies and at 2K intervals except for 500 and 1000 miles the first two changes). I also changed the Rear oil at 200, 500 and 1000 miles and again at every oil change hearing of those horrors before hand. You should have seen the crap that came out at 200 miles, no wonder there are so many problems you hear about. I have since gone to synthetic in the rear, and it is clean every time, well worth the money in my opinion. Motor oil is still BMW 10-40 (non synthetic) except for one time trying 20-50 with no improvemnt in the smoking condition. The cruise control did not work from the time it left the parking lot, and a new one was ordered and installed. It still does not work properly under 40 degrees, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. I ride every day I can year round, except for snow and the day after because of antiskid. The Goldwing now shows 160K (thankfully I did not trade it) with just regular maintenance and a head gasket going while pulling a sidecar, a camper trailer and 3 people aboard on a HOT summer day last season. Back to the BMW... At 2 weeks in, and 400 miles, i hit a bump in the road, not a pot hole, a bump, and BOTH mirrors fell off scraping the road. When I returned to the dealer, i was told, "they do that"! they do that??? why wasnt this relayed to me BEFORE plunking down 18 grand of the banks hard stolen, errrr, earned, i meant earned money for this? Having a Goldwing with 100K on it at the time 80K of it mine), and the only thing that ever fell off of that was ME!!! Anyway, 2 dealer installed tie wraps on new mirrors and Im back in business,, so i think. A week later I return to the dealer, with what i think is a problem, the gas gage does not seem to ever go empty (dont you hate that?) The dealer reassures me I am just not used to the better gas mileage the Fuel injected bike gets over my 48 mpg Goldwing. Well, to make a short story long, a week later I run out of gas on the freeway with half tank on the gage and have to push the old girl almost half a mile to a gas station where it takes 6.02 gallons of gas. I return it to the dealer where they find the sender is crimped. For the record, the onboard computer says Im getting 34 MPG one up. I was notified of a recall and returned it for the work, something about fuel lines. When i got the bike back it would not run, it would stumble and stall and had NO power. I returned it 3 times for that and it still ran like crap. I also noticed the bike was smoking when you first start it. YES, i park it on the side stand, but why put one on if you cant use it. I do not have the strength to lift it in the center stand and I'll live with the "puff" of smoke. The "puff" got gradually longer and longer to the point where it smokes a half an hour PROFUSELY before tapering off. It will leave a thick trail of smoke for 5 miles when starting out. The dealer assures me this is normal for this bike and BMW will not authorize anything unless it is using 1 qt in a thousand miles. Now add to this, the shifter falling off, (again the dealer saying this is normal, he even gave me an extra part in case it happens again, guess i have to keep a cordless drill with a left handed drill bit in my toll case too now), the seat heater switch malfunctioning, frying my butt on a summer day to where I had to finsih the ride to the dealer riding on the passenger seat, the windshield stopping working, the radio cutting out (but never for the dealer according to them), the rims made of some sort of cream cheese, (i never saw a rim bend like these!), the continual saga of the dropping mirrors (how many times do yours fall off a day?), the front fork seals leaking, to which the dealer response was IMPOSSIBLE!!! I said then the turn signals must be leaking, would you just please fix it! Would you be happy with a bike like this? I can get on ANY of the other 19, (2 strokes included) and not have to put up with any of the grief this thing continues to plague me with. Now I ask again, what problems have you had, I know if I paid 18 grand for a bike I wouldnt want to admit to it either, but there must be others who's bikes have one or more symptoms like this.
 

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I appreciate all your comments, good and bad. Since i did nothing to insult any of you, besides not being happy with a BMW (which I akin to the King's New Clothes Syndrome), i would like to say to the people who had nothing nice to say,,, get a life and relax! I do not have a lot of time to spend on these sites and will get on when I can. Also, I'm not here for your abuse, I got married for that purpose. As you noticed, I can be a little sarcastic too, so read on with a grain of salt and enjoy my misadventures! Just for the record, I am 47, riding since I was a kid, Licensed and riding every day since 16. I am a MSF Rider Coach and currently own 20 (soon to be 21, pssst don't tell my wife, I learned forgiveness is always easier to get than permission!) They range from small to large, old to new, 2 and 4 stroke, 2 and 3 wheel (5 if you count the trailer), 1 to 6 cylinder and a rotary thrown in for good measure, so I am up on riding. Here are the details of the BMW, I bought the bike new, with 17 miles on it (didnt want to buy any one elses junk). A friend also recommended it (who later sold his BMW and bought an 06 Wing and LOVES it! (We're NOT talking anymore, just kidding) Then I swallowed the dealers horror stories of the new Goldwings hook line and sinker and heard every good thing short of Ed McMahon coming to look for me if I bought the LT! It now has just under 18K with all services, including 18K (except for oil and filter, which I did with dealer purchased supplies and at 2K intervals except for 500 and 1000 miles the first two changes). I also changed the Rear oil at 200, 500 and 1000 miles and again at every oil change hearing of those horrors before hand. You should have seen the crap that came out at 200 miles, no wonder there are so many problems you hear about. I have since gone to synthetic in the rear, and it is clean every time, well worth the money in my opinion. Motor oil is still BMW 10-40 (non synthetic) except for one time trying 20-50 with no improvemnt in the smoking condition. The cruise control did not work from the time it left the parking lot, and a new one was ordered and installed. It still does not work properly under 40 degrees, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. I ride every day I can year round, except for snow and the day after because of antiskid. The Goldwing now shows 160K (thankfully I did not trade it) with just regular maintenance and a head gasket going while pulling a sidecar, a camper trailer and 3 people aboard on a HOT summer day last season. Back to the BMW... At 2 weeks in, and 400 miles, i hit a bump in the road, not a pot hole, a bump, and BOTH mirrors fell off scraping the road. When I returned to the dealer, i was told, "they do that"! they do that??? why wasnt this relayed to me BEFORE plunking down 18 grand of the banks hard stolen, errrr, earned, i meant earned money for this? Having a Goldwing with 100K on it at the time 80K of it mine), and the only thing that ever fell off of that was ME!!! Anyway, 2 dealer installed tie wraps on new mirrors and Im back in business,, so i think. A week later I return to the dealer, with what i think is a problem, the gas gage does not seem to ever go empty (dont you hate that?) The dealer reassures me I am just not used to the better gas mileage the Fuel injected bike gets over my 48 mpg Goldwing. Well, to make a short story long, a week later I run out of gas on the freeway with half tank on the gage and have to push the old girl almost half a mile to a gas station where it takes 6.02 gallons of gas. I return it to the dealer where they find the sender is crimped. For the record, the onboard computer says Im getting 34 MPG one up. I was notified of a recall and returned it for the work, something about fuel lines. When i got the bike back it would not run, it would stumble and stall and had NO power. I returned it 3 times for that and it still ran like crap. I also noticed the bike was smoking when you first start it. YES, i park it on the side stand, but why put one on if you cant use it. I do not have the strength to lift it in the center stand and I'll live with the "puff" of smoke. The "puff" got gradually longer and longer to the point where it smokes a half an hour PROFUSELY before tapering off. It will leave a thick trail of smoke for 5 miles when starting out. The dealer assures me this is normal for this bike and BMW will not authorize anything unless it is using 1 qt in a thousand miles. Now add to this, the shifter falling off, (again the dealer saying this is normal, he even gave me an extra part in case it happens again, guess i have to keep a cordless drill with a left handed drill bit in my toll case too now), the seat heater switch malfunctioning, frying my butt on a summer day to where I had to finsih the ride to the dealer riding on the passenger seat, the windshield stopping working, the radio cutting out (but never for the dealer according to them), the rims made of some sort of cream cheese, (i never saw a rim bend like these!), the continual saga of the dropping mirrors (how many times do yours fall off a day?), the front fork seals leaking, to which the dealer response was IMPOSSIBLE!!! I said then the turn signals must be leaking, would you just please fix it! Would you be happy with a bike like this? I can get on ANY of the other 19, (2 strokes included) and not have to put up with any of the grief this thing continues to plague me with. Now I ask again, what problems have you had, I know if I paid 18 grand for a bike I wouldnt want to admit to it either, but there must be others who's bikes have one or more symptoms like this.

You just answered your own question. Riding the wrong bike.

Sell it and get something with more chrome and no centerstand, and get something better suited for your riding skills.

I suggest a moped. ( but dont get one of the Chinese mopeds, they really suck)

:dance:
 

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My K1200LT

1999 K1200LT 46K

The month of June rode from Florida to Alaska and back. 12060 miles with out a problem.

New shaft replaced at 20K. It had, and the tech. stated it was put in wrong, wiggled out from the final drive and worn the teeth down causing a bad vibration.

Broken mirror clips on both mirrors.
 

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If I paid $18K for an 'new' LT I would not be happy to have the amount of problems that you have.. In fact if I paid $10K for the same new M/C probably would not be happy. You have 20/21 M/Cs so I would assume that some of the broke.. so you should be no stranger to repairs.

I have lost my mirrors a few times but my research told me to tether them. I'm really sorry you did not know that but that is the design. If you hit a pot hole they will come off if they are not adjusted correctly. If the dealer doesn't know that you have the wrong dealer.. of course they may be the only one so you have what you have. I've hit a few pot holes (after all I live in the Northeast) and I have had a mirror or both mirrors pop off. No big thing I just put them back and look and make sure they are adjusted right. Of course I did not damage a rim on mine and I am also assuming that your front rim was damaged and the leaking seal might be residual damage.

You own more M/Cs 'now' than I have over 35 years of riding. :cool: Sounds like a situation I would like to be in.. Go to the stable and pick out todays ride.. :thumb:

I was also thinking that this is the last BMW I will buy also.. until I started reading about all these adventure trips to Alaska and I'm giving serious thought to eventually getting a GS or equivalent.. This would be an additional purchase as I have had three M/Cs in my garage and they all had different function/purpose. Probably my next won't be new. Not because I 'want' to buy someones junk but because I think there is more value to a used purchase. There are a lot of people that buy these things that do not use them enough to even wear the first set of tires out before they are on to something else.

Every other bike I have previously owned was purchased new, except my LT. I bought my LT with a small amount of miles at a reasonable price. Enough miles so it wasn't a garage 'Queen' but not run hard and put away wet all the time. I'm pretty happy with mine. I bought mine before as the rear end stuff started. I was worried that I made a bad decision but I'm happy I kept it as I find the LT very rewarding to ride. I've had a few problems. I can't keep tires on the bike, the gas tank seems to always need filling. Not many people want to ride with me because I don't usually like to stop. I also had a problem with squeaky brakes that BMW tried to fix by replacing my rotor. That fix wan't the answer and the floating rotor eventually went loose.. I eventually fixed that problem on my own. I had mechanical problem with the top case.. I had a leaky slave, but I replaced that before it was a problem.

Actually the GW I sold to buy the LT was almost bullet proof. I sold it to the dealer I bought from and he was excited to buy it. It was sold in two days. Unfortunately, easy to buy and sell, that all I can say about it. As much as I like to ride I was finding that I was using all kinds of excuses to take my truck.. too hot, too cool and the ultimate was a threat of rain. Once I realized what was happening I moved on. I'm back riding May to November. I previously rode only early June to October. Unfortunately I don't need to ride in the summer as much as I have to drive in the winter. So I only put 12 to 15K on during a typical summer.

As far as your LT smoking for the first 5 miles.. I think I would start seriously estimating the miles per quart and see where it's headed..

My LT will use about a quart per 1K if I ride it hard in the mountains or twisties using 3rd or 4th gear. Happened to me a few years ago in Colorado and I didn't understand it but this year in the Georgia mountains it happened again. Now I know. But it was worth the price of the quart. In your case I believe you should be on BMW to get it fixed and then move on and cut your losses. Your obviously not happy riding and if your not happy why have an LT.
 
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