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This question is NOT about their qualifications to lead, but....

Obama, or Hillary. Is either one of them really electable in November?

I feel Hillary will guarantee whomever runs from the right will get elected, and living in the south, I just not sure if America is ready to elect a black man.

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Dragon, you asked. :)
 

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hoog62 said:
This question is NOT about their qualifications to lead, but....

Obama, or Hillary. Is either one of them really electable in November?

I feel Hillary will guarantee whomever runs from the right will get elected, and living in the south, I just not sure if America is ready to elect a black man.

Discuss...(as adults ;) )


















Dragon, you asked. :)
I won't vote for him, but I think he's more electable than Clinton.

Would be better for us Republicans if Clinton did get the nomination but that seems unlikely at this point...
 

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Hillary will be harder to elect than Obama me thinks!
Here's What you won't find in the Clinton Museum and Library

Obama only has two years of Washington Experiance and that may be his best quality; much like Abe Lincoln he is a relative new comer.

He owes nothing at this point to special interest or the "Military Industrial Complex" so I think he will be less likely to bend to their will should he be elected.
His inexperience is one of the attractions.

Political experience = political debt
 

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DaveDragon said:
Hillary will be harder to elect than Obama me thinks!
Here's What you won't find in the Clinton Museum and Library

Obama only has two years of Washington Experiance and that may be his best quality; much like Abe Lincoln he is a relative new comer.

He owes nothing at this point to special interest or the "Military Industrial Complex" so I think he will be less likely to bend to their will should he be elected.
I don't think it is possible to be elected to the US Senate from a large industrial state and not owe something to special interests. A recent report from the Senate itself said that the average cost of running for the US Senate in 2006 in the 10 most expensive races was $34M. You don't raise that kind of money without owing some favors. __________________
 

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Don't Forget Oprah PLUS A JOKE

Remember the Soccer Moms, well Oprah has them licked.

My SO is a relatively conservative gal. We tend to agree on most political subjects. Now Obama....

Oprah "told her" to read his books, she did. Now with Oprah's support, I think we reached a tipping point with the undecideds and independants.

My Wife and I have a little bet, I still believe the "Hillary machine" will ultimately overcome. The Clintons have many powerful friends.

Being a conservative myself, I would much rather face Hillary than Obama. But also never wanting to walk away from a good fight, Obama will be a harder match.

Funny how the main stream media is fairly silent on the implosion of Hillary.



NOW THE HILLARY JOKE (B-Ware)

Packers QB

In a news conference Deanna Favre, wife of Green Bay Packer future Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Favre, announced she will be the starting QB for the Packers this coming Sunday. She claimed she is qualified to be starting QB because she has spent the past 16 years married to Brett while he played QB for the Packers. Because of this she understands how to pick up a corner blitz and knows the terminology of the Packers offense. A poll of Packers fans shows that 50% of those polled supported the move.



Does this sound idiotic and unbelievable to you? Yet Hillary Clinton makes the same claims as to why she is qualified to be President and 50% of democrats polled agreed.
 

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NOW THE HILLARY JOKE (B-Ware)

Packers QB

In a news conference Deanna Favre, wife of Green Bay Packer future Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Favre, announced she will be the starting QB for the Packers this coming Sunday. She claimed she is qualified to be starting QB because she has spent the past 16 years married to Brett while he played QB for the Packers. Because of this she understands how to pick up a corner blitz and knows the terminology of the Packers offense. A poll of Packers fans shows that 50% of those polled supported the move.



Does this sound idiotic and unbelievable to you? Yet Hillary Clinton makes the same claims as to why she is qualified to be President and 50% of democrats polled agreed.
It may be a joke but it sure illustrates the point doesn't it.
 

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No one mobilizes the conservative base more than Hillary.

I personally think she'd make a much better president than Bush, but then again, so would my rescue-shelter mut.

Obama, on the other hand, seems to be connecting with independents. Plus he has tremendous charisma, and he comes across as honest and open.

Hillary does not have the charisma, and she comes across as "handled."

Regarding race, holy crap, this IS 2008, isn't it?
 

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I'm liking Ron Paul more everyday.

I just love the way Hillary's campaign went from Experience to Change. Flip flopping, mealy mouthed politicians.

The professional politician needs to go. It's no longer for the people, by the people.
+1, Grif. But then again, I seem to recall you liked Kinky, too. And how come the news media doesn't cover Ron Paul? Heck, ABC has interviewed each candidate one on one.....except Ron Paul.
 

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I am a southern boy and I don't feel race is an issue with Obama. I think not saying the Pledge of Allegiance and putting you hand over you heart during the National Anthem is a MAJOR ISSUE and I am having a real problem with this NOT seeming to be an issue. There is something very wrong with this guy. My gee - haw meter went off the first time I heard him and every time since - and if you lend money, you learn to trust your meter.

Hillary is a raving socialist and borderline communist. We need less government not more. She has a lot of baggage and I am sure we have not even seen the tip of the iceberg - which I am sure is being saved up somewhere for the real election.

I am really disgusted that not one candidate from either party (that I have heard) has flatly stated they are against illegals (from anywhere) living here and getting benefits they are not intitled AND said they want ENGLISH as our official language. Spineless bunch - all.
 

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. . . AND said they want ENGLISH as our official language. . .
So when you'all gonna learn to speak it :):) - seriously, as a Brit, I find the whole American electoral process bizarre - you seem to have this process where the people (and peopleesses) who can generate the most money stand a chance of getting voted for, then, once you've decided who's got the most money (or most money behind them), you then decide to have a Presidential election - THEN, if the public vote doesn't go the way that's wanted, you arbitarily ignore the total votes of entire states - and afterwards, you don't complain about the results. BIZARRE
 

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+1, Grif. But then again, I seem to recall you liked Kinky, too. And how come the news media doesn't cover Ron Paul? Heck, ABC has interviewed each candidate one on one.....except Ron Paul.
Because he's scary to the machine.

What I can't understand is how the average American doesn't see what's going on with the government and especially with politicians. Once they (try) to disarm us, we're really sunk.



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So when you'all gonna learn to speak it :):) - seriously, as a Brit, I find the whole American electoral process bizarre - you seem to have this process where the people (and peopleesses) who can generate the most money stand a chance of getting voted for, then, once you've decided who's got the most money (or most money behind them), you then decide to have a Presidential election - THEN, if the public vote doesn't go the way that's wanted, you arbitarily ignore the total votes of entire states - and afterwards, you don't complain about the results. BIZARRE
No arguments from me. Lots of us find it bizarre ... as is evident from our recent election results. :D
 

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Until about 2 years ago, USMC recruits (in civilian clothing or uncovered) were taught to stand at attention and face the flag during the national anthem-and specifically told not to place their hand over their heart. So I have to cut Obama some slack on no hand over the heart during the national anthem.

As for Ron Paul, he would get much more national coverage of his campaign if he didn't attract every fringe nut case conspiracy group in country.
 

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No arguments from me. Lots of us find it bizarre ... as is evident from our recent election results. :D
You mean the Democrats getting control of congress?

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Oh my god! Obama is a radical Muslim, who attended an ashram (school), and won't recite the Pledge of Allegiance or hold his hand up during the National Anthem. And his middle name is Hussein! If we elect him, the terrorists have won!

Seriously, does anyone believe this crap? OK, maybe those folks who petitioned to ban DiHydrogen MonOxide, or those so entrenched in the culture of fear currently being propagated by the current CiC and his cronies that they've lost all ability to think for themselves and make up their own minds.

Come to think of it that does seem to be a majority of the populace, at least based on the last couple of major elections. Maybe we are all doomed. :eek:
 

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I'm sorry, did you answer the original question there? I couldn't tell.


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