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I'm blending a bucket-list Cross Country ride from West Chester PA to Laguna Beach CA, with a work meeting in California which is pretty important. My route is through Denver in late April (hopefully the weather is OK). Question: I'm allowing 7 days to make the trip which will be pretty much be 7+ hours per day of riding (not much sight seeing other than through my helmet shield). IS THIS REALISTIC???

Thanks for any insight anyone can share.

John
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I'm blending a bucket-list Cross Country ride from West Chester PA to Laguna Beach CA, with a work meeting in California which is pretty important. My route is through Denver in late April (hopefully the weather is OK). Question: I'm allowing 7 days to make the trip which will be pretty much be 7+ hours per day of riding (not much sight seeing other than through my helmet shield). IS THIS REALISTIC???

Thanks for any insight anyone can share.

John
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The 2nd week of April, 1991 I rode my motorcycle from Chicago, IL to Sacramento, CA.
I left Sacramento heading back the beginning of the 3rd week of April.
I had to stop in Laramie, WY for 2 days because I-80 was shut down because of a spring snow storm.
I would highly, highly, recommend a southern route that time of year!!!
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It would be too short for me. Fatigue sets in, weather becomes impossible, or [rarely] bike issues. I too have been riding since my teens (now 67), and despite being in good shape overall, I find 500 mile days not enjoyable; never really did. And 400 mile ones are only marginally better. This is partly because my favorite thing is to take unmarked roads off the beaten path, just to see where they lead. Then I find myself cramming at the end of the day to make my destination for the evening...not a safe habit. Also, the point further up about weather in the Rockies, is not a minor one. I have seen the most extreme range of temps in a single day there (103 to 34 on the same day!). Enjoy your ride and be safe!
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Prices vary... gas was expensive for me.
Hotels/motels $100-$150 a night.
Food and water and gas cost me about $100 a day.
Your costs may vary.
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Prices vary... gas was expensive for me.
Hotels/motels $100-$150 a night.
Food and water and gas cost me about $100 a day.
Your costs may vary.
Nights in your lean-to tents run a bit less than that. 😏
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When folks do trips like this, do you plan each day beforehand and get hotel reservations? Is it a good idea to just sort of wing it and find a hotel when you're ready to stop? Any long trips I've do, I always book in advance but it commits you to a certain route and timing. Would love to feel free and wing it but also would not like having nowhere to lay me head.
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I'm blaming you for the possibility that I might buy this tent.
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I have camped... and made reservations ahead of time. It seems you need to get camping reservations 6 months in advance for a number of locations.
I prefer to ride and stop around 4PM - 5PM and find a motel/hotel these days.
I haven't had a problem not finding a place to stay!
https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycles/comments/2cqxpv
"Unhoused."
I have the gear to prove it!
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I'm blaming you for the possibility that I might buy this tent.
That's two different products. There are a lot of similar products out there. I may also be buying something like that. However, to be honest, I don't see any real advantage of using my bike as a tent peg, and anchoring it to a tent, since lightweight tents including their own supports are a dime a dozen. I'm not near ready to go, but this thread has gotten me to thinking, that along with all the daily "break in trips" (i.e. both my 2018 RT and my body), it's about time to planning out the kit required to competently make the trip.
PacMoto has this 3 part series "Packing for a Motorcycle Trip" which might interest new cross country riders.
This one too, about motorcycle camping.

(As to @Movinman 's comment about making reservations in advance, I could in no way do that while riding cross country on a bike. To many contingencies possible, including finding those out of the way side trips. I am so disgusted with every motel/hotel I've stayed in over the past half dozen years, regardless of price, that I plan to add camping contingencies to the trip. I can always find a travel center or motel to shower and wash my clothes, but I'd rather be less obligated to depend on a cheap motel proprietor. )
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I don't know if REIs are everywhere... but, I have spent a couple grand on camping gear and I camp in state parks which do require reservations ahead of time, (sometimes 6 months ahead.) I would camp two nights, and find a hotel for the third night to shower and regroup. It works for me. Whatever works!
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When folks do trips like this, do you plan each day beforehand and get hotel reservations? Is it a good idea to just sort of wing it and find a hotel when you're ready to stop? Any long trips I've do, I always book in advance but it commits you to a certain route and timing. Would love to feel free and wing it but also would not like having nowhere to lay me head.
I plan each day's ride around where I will spend the night(s). I get hotel reservations weeks, if not months, in advance and stay in nicer places where I feel that I will be safe, the bike secure, and restaurants (that I like) in walking distance if possible. (And always have Uber Eats available when not possible.)

Just my routine, not for everyone.

Larry
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I do a lot of long distance road trips all over the country. That distance in 7 days is about 400
Miles a day. That’s ok. The big wild card is gonna be the weather. And there is always the possibility of having some kind of bike issue. If the meeting is important I’d add a couple extra days in for such contingencies. Good luck.
Appreciate your comments. I've already negotiated another day with my wife, and anymore will put me at risk of loosing half me earnings. ;-) Seriously, this suggestion to add more days is completely understandable considering the unknown risks, however I'll be on the road for 21 days (first a CA meeting, then to El Paso for a trade show) and I'm really pushing the limits with my better half.

If the SHTF, then I'll 'abort the mission' and figure out a way to recover on the road (which of course will come with a large price tag I'm sure).

Again, thanks.

John
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Hey John,

I'll just chime in quickly. As said above, the weather in CO at altitude can be iffy in April. I'm originally from Chicago and retired to north central NM about 6 years ago. I have been surprised by snowy weather in CO both in late spring and early fall.
400 mile days on an RT are easily doable even for a geezer like me but as you probably know fatigue can be cumulative so you may need to take more breaks as the days go by adding to overall travel time. Taking a southern route back to go through El Paso should at least reward you with nice weather.

Good luck and be safe.

Dan
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My longest ride so far was buying my used ‘99 in Phoenix a few years ago and riding it back to Chicago in May. Even in May the southern route was not great. Despite initially clear weather predictions, I hit a band of storms that went from New Mexico to Missouri. Rain in New Mexico, riding at seemingly a 45 degree angle for hours on end through Texas to fight cross winds (not fun; especially not fun when passing 18 wheelers), rain in Oklahoma, rain in Missouri. I’ve never been so relieved to see old, boring I55 north at the Illinois border. To be fair, I loved riding through Arizona and I would do the whole trip again. But, I learned a few things: i) I will never ride my bikes long distance again when I have somewhere to be (I had to rush to get back home); ii) my projected daily distance was nowhere near what I planned (4 days planned turned into a very long 5); iii) I will never plan to ride more than 5 hours a day when calculating future trips. One final fun detail about the trip: one town had lost all electricity, so none of the 3 gas stations I went to could take credit cards or pump gas. For some reason, the 4th gas station on the other side of the highway was still up and running. Anyway, my post isn’t intended to hijack your thread, but instead to give you a few things to think about before jumping into your trip head first.
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I do a lot of long distance road trips all over the country. That distance in 7 days is about 400
Miles a day. That’s ok. The big wild card is gonna be the weather. And there is always the possibility of having some kind of bike issue. If the meeting is important I’d add a couple extra days in for such contingencies. Good luck.
My longest ride so far was buying my used ‘99 in Phoenix a few years ago and riding it back to Chicago in May. Even in May the southern route was not great. Despite initially clear weather predictions, I hit a band of storms that went from New Mexico to Missouri. Rain in New Mexico, riding at seemingly a 45 degree angle for hours on end through Texas to fight cross winds (not fun; especially not fun when passing 18 wheelers), rain in Oklahoma, rain in Missouri. I’ve never been so relieved to see old, boring I55 north at the Illinois border. To be fair, I loved riding through Arizona and I would do the whole trip again. But, I learned a few things: i) I will never ride my bikes long distance again when I have somewhere to be (I had to rush to get back home); ii) my projected daily distance was nowhere near what I planned (4 days planned turned into a very long 5); iii) I will never plan to ride more than 5 hours a day when calculating future trips. One final fun detail about the trip: one town had lost all electricity, so none of the 3 gas stations I went to could take credit cards or pump gas. For some reason, the 4th gas station on the other side of the highway was still up and running. Anyway, my post isn’t intended to hijack your thread, but instead to give you a few things to think about before jumping into your trip head first.
Hello Phaskat,

I posted my plans on this forum hoping to get experienced, honest comments...no disappointments whatsoever, and ever comment either reinforces or challenges my initial plans. The time frame for my trip is pretty much a LOCK, so after months of thinking/planning I need to eventually make a hard decision on whether to proceed or not. If I don't, then I'll need to shift to next year "sometime," which I really don't want to do. I'll avoid getting philosophical to justify my position. At any rate, I know there will be risk to schedule (and sh*tty road conditions), and I don't discount anyone's experience (warnings?) at all.

Thanks for your comments and suggestions. All good.

John
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The 2nd week of April, 1991 I rode my motorcycle from Chicago, IL to Sacramento, CA.
I left Sacramento heading back the beginning of the 3rd week of April.
I had to stop in Laramie, WY for 2 days because I-80 was shut down because of a spring snow storm.
I would highly, highly, recommend a southern route that time of year!!!
Hello Bojangle,

Appreciate your comment. I'm really thinking hard about the route, and if I need to shift south (which is still on the table) it won't affect my plans other than missing that (what I think) the 70W route through flat Kansas into the beautiful Rockies. As I mentioned on other replies, I'm not going to take unnecessary risks for scenery so I will continue to keep an open mind to changing routes if necessary.

Thanks again.

John
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Hey John,

I'll just chime in quickly. As said above, the weather in CO at altitude can be iffy in April. I'm originally from Chicago and retired to north central NM about 6 years ago. I have been surprised by snowy weather in CO both in late spring and early fall.
400 mile days on an RT are easily doable even for a geezer like me but as you probably know fatigue can be cumulative so you may need to take more breaks as the days go by adding to overall travel time. Taking a southern route back to go through El Paso should at least reward you with nice weather.

Good luck and be safe.

Dan
Hi Dan,

The trip out still remains open to a possible shift, and all comments/suggestions are appreciated. Not sure what qualifies you as a "Geezer" (love that word), but in my mind you wouldn't qualify if you're still balancing yourself on two small patches of rubber at speed. ;-)

Yes, the trip back through El Paso will be capped off by visiting my niece/nephew in Fort Worth. Two great people who I actually had the pleasure of officiating their wedding last year! Always good to connect with family along the way.

Thanks Dan.

John
It would be too short for me. Fatigue sets in, weather becomes impossible, or [rarely] bike issues. I too have been riding since my teens (now 67), and despite being in good shape overall, I find 500 mile days not enjoyable; never really did. And 400 mile ones are only marginally better. This is partly because my favorite thing is to take unmarked roads off the beaten path, just to see where they lead. Then I find myself cramming at the end of the day to make my destination for the evening...not a safe habit. Also, the point further up about weather in the Rockies, is not a minor one. I have seen the most extreme range of temps in a single day there (103 to 34 on the same day!). Enjoy your ride and be safe!
Thanks Pkako2,

There are a number of reasons for my trip, one being able to have the endurance required in a long journey with a time limit; like a race against myself. I still have that little something inside that pushes me to prove I can physically do something beyond my limits (ego? stupidity? immaturity? a little of all three...), whatever it is it's still there and as I get older the voice gets louder. ;-)

Appreciate the well wishes.

Best,
John
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Hi John,

I'm in roughly the same spot you are. I'll be 57 this year and finally have some time and finances to do some more riding. Our wives would get along well as a couple hours is also her max ride limit too. I live in El Paso so if you have some extra time while you're here, give me a shout. Maybe we can grab dinner & a beer.

Regards,
Gil.
Hi Gil,

Good to hear your time and finance flexibility allows more riding! My visit to El Paso will be to attend (exhibit) at the BSE trade show with colleagues from work. I really appreciate the offer to grab a cup of coffee, however I'm not sure if you've ever done a trade show (I've done them all through my career), but set-up / exhibit / break-down consumes all of your time, and hotels are a welcome crash (sleep) haven after long days.

I'm certainly hoping there will be many more long rides in my future, especially as I see the semi-retirement light at the end of the year. Like most of us on this forum, we all know how small the world is how funny it is to bump into people along the way unexpectedly.

Have a great day, and thanks again.

John
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