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Does the Cardo Pack Talk interface with the Multi-Controller for volume control on the TFT likes Sena 50S can?
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Correct, BMW made their system open, up to Cardo to support it.
I have a Cardo Pak-Talk Slim with iPhone 13 Pro and before that with a iPhone 6S+. It worked with Wunderwheel on my '17 RT. It wasn't, however, worth it on either phone. The bike's electronics add so much distortion to the sound that it's unlistenable. Just link to your phone and use "hey cardo" verbal commands" "Music On, Music Off, Volume Up, Volume Down, Next Track". It will also allow Hey Siri commands, but they're slow.
Phone works too with this direct setup. You don't get the directory but you can receive calls by just saying "Answer" when it rings. Music is shut off just like bluetooth car systems. Also, if I pre-set the app before starting my ride, I can use Pandora or Amazon Music...so long as there's cell coverage.
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I haven't noticed any distortion, im not at a very high volume either..did you get this on music and calls?
The '21 and on RTs, or as the OP referred to "TFT" bikes have a wastely different audio system to your old '17 RT. Distortions of any kind are not in its dictionary.
The latest model incarnation of the RT line does not stop with the TFT, active cruise and LED headlights. There are many improvements under the skin, one being the audio system.
Yes, both, but the music was just terrible. Sometimes, I couldn't even tell what song was on. This was on a '17 RT. Newer systems may be better.
Having a new GS, I'm aware of the improvements. I shopped for an RT when I decided on the GSA. My GSA has LED lights that move...a good headlight but not better than my old 1150RT's. Also have TFT and an actual GPS that works with satellites, not cell towers. I suppose I have the improved audio quality on my GSA. It cannot be better than the quality of going direct to the phone, since it uses the phone to get the music. I'm happy going direct to the phone with the Cardo system, so I won't change. The TFT system requires you to drill down into menus and turn the audio back on every time you turn the bike off...rather annoying. So...I'll continue to get music and phone service direct and do without the verbal turn by turn directions. I don't like the GPS talking to me anyway.
Just wanted to get it out there that, if someone has a Cardo, going direct to the phone is a pretty decent option, even with TFT. Different strokes, I guess. Just when I hear complaints about this system, I feel like it's good to point out that going around it has some advantages.
Get your facts right buddy, most of your points are incorrect, especially the "fact" I quoted.
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Why is disagreeing always personal?
It's not disagreeing. It's misinformation spread by individuals who failed to do due diligence prior to passing on their "version" of "facts".
Facts are facts, whether you or anyone else disagrees with them. One of the problems with today's society is the questioning of facts. Facts are facts because they are absolutely correct, not open for debate or matter of opinion.
I am however happy to be corrected if I am proven to not have the facts correctly and will admit to being wrong readily. Are you?
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No, is disagreeing and personal. Misinformation would mean he means to deceive, for a purpose. Seriously?
No, cell towers are not GPS, but to the laymen when they read that they are PART of how SOME devices USE them to determine part of a location, its an easy mistake to make.
And you go out of your way to make the disagreement personal.
Ya just cant say "Maybe you're mistaken"?
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I'm imaging you are talking about playing media off the phone since the radio picks up from where it left off with a power down. I prefer the way it works with the media. When starting up the bike, I most often am getting ready to ride and will only turn on the media well after I'm on my way. For the radio, I have a favorites button programmed for on/off.
Nope, it would not: “Misinformation” vs. “Disinformation”: Get Informed On The Difference
You mean dis-information if deception WAS the reason...
I believe most people, even the older generation that was not brought up with technology, is aware what cell towers are and how GPS works. That is not the issue here. The issue is the claim that in order to navigate with the phone based app (BMW Connected) the phone needs cell coverage. This is simply not true.
The app won't even begin to navigate if the maps are not downloaded first for the area. Once the maps are downloaded, cell signal is irrelevant. The app will be accurately navigating with GPS signal only. Tried and tasted and, might add, fact.
It is the same thing, is it not?
You are new to BMW bikes I recall you saying in one of your posts, so perhaps you had no experience with forums like this in the past. Let me explain some expectations.
Owners of this brand come here primarily to find information. Useful and correct information. Many have very little to no previous experience with the brand or with servicing their bike, so they have no way to tell if the information is correct or not, unless someone points it out for them. You simply don't know how many times this page would pop up in someone's search about "Connected App navigation" for instance.
As far as I can see in a place like this not calling out misinformation is as damaging as coming up with the misinformation, no matter how well meaning it may be.
How would you feel if you get yourself in a position to do a valve clearance check, so you go and ask the question on a forum, just to be given the hexhead clearances by someone there. You then go and set those on your '22 motor because no one has questioned the bad information you were given. Best case, you need to redo the clearances, worst case you damage your engine. Just one possible scenario to think of.
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If being personally assaulted by the internet makes you work..who am I to say you're doing it wrong I guess.
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