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The PIAA Cross Country auxiliary lights had a bulb that burned out for the 3rd time in three years. Rather than replace it, I want more powerful driving lights, slightly wider than a traditional pencil beam pattern. I was never satisfied with the PIAA lights. I don't mind spending the $$$ for a great lighting kit. Does anyone have experience with:
- Future Vision HID 90mm HID Auxiliary Driving Light Kit?
- Hella Micro DE Xenon auxiliary lights?
A few years ago I saw an LT with very large auxiliary lights made by Philips. I do not know which model and I was unable to locate a match through several internet searches as well as checking the lighting sub-forum. Whatever lights I get, I'll find a shop to fabricate mounting brackets if none are available. I'd like to mount the lights high as possible, and without the risk of light bleeding back into the windscreen.
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Change your Piaa's over to HID... Shouldn't be THAT difficult...

Just somewhere under the tupperware on either side for the ballasts...

Get a kit with some longish wires between the ballasts and the lamp...And get the Ballast/ignitor in one box ......Route the wires out to the Piaa's thru some spiral wrap or something like that....

Off you go..

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I was very happy with the Hella FF200s on my previous LT, and I really miss them (or something equally capable) on my newer LT. The lights are relatively big, were mounted on BMR mounts beneath the mirrors, and really put out a tunnel of light in front of the bike. Great for riding at night and having a decent chance of seeing a deer before you hit it. These are not conspicuity lights - they are full-on aux. driving lights.

Take a look at Clearwater's LED lights. They have 2 sizes, and are dimmable - this gives you conspicuity during the daytime and nighttime, and powerful driving lights at night. Photos on their web site.
 

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You might consider the Clearwater Glenda
and Clearwater Krista high performance LED lights.
They both draw a fraction of power draw compared to HIDs and no ballast.
Glendas are like the Motolights
and give you conspicuity and short range lighting, much like fog lights
The Kristas will replace your PIAA driving lights for long distance penetration.
Both come with a dimmer switch.
Less power draw, no heat, same amount of illumination.
 

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Thanks for the information on the Clearwater Krista lights. The PIAA Cross Country lights are HID lights and I was not impressed with how much light was projected down range. The PIAAs were fairly good for illuminating the side of the road but not well suited for riding at a spirited pace on the freeway at night. After I get some input from riders who have used the Krista and the Future Vision 90mm HID driving lights, I'll make my order. Thanks again and I'll post a review once I get a new set installed.
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SEG said:
Thanks for the information on the Clearwater Krista lights. The PIAA Cross Country lights are HID lights and I was not impressed with how much light was projected down range. The PIAAs were fairly good for illuminating the side of the road but not well suited for riding at a spirited pace on the freeway at night. After I get some input from riders who have used the Krista and the Future Vision 90mm HID driving lights, I'll make my order. Thanks again and I'll post a review once I get a new set installed.
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If you do searches for "krista", "clearwater", or "future vision" I'm sure you'll see several threads out there, on this site. A number of people have installed them.

I sent Clearwater an email; they replied promptly. I followed that up with a list of specific product/performance questions via email. They didn't respond. I called them; they told me they were at a week-long event, etc. I need to follow-up with them on these questions, as I am ready to purchase and have them installed. Just need to find someone to install them for me.
 

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PIAA agreed to swap out the old PIAA HID Cross Country auxiliary lights for PIAA 530 LED lights. The PIAA lights were not my first choice but since they were free and I could use the old wiring harness, it was too good of a deal to pass up. I have not had a chance to try them out; I will be away for a few months but will provide a product evaluation later in the summer.
 

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Take a look at the Baja Designs Fuego. HID that can pendant mount on BMR mounts.
Has internal ballast.
The PIAA Cross Country / Trailech is crap. Reasons are simple but come down to the unique and too small HID capsule not being reliable, use of a poorly sealed indoor lamp reflector masquerading as a driving light, and poor electronics design for the ballast. The 30W version has had at leat 2 versions of the ballast and 3 of the bulb since it was introduced with no appreciable improvement in reliability and output is poor for a 30W HID..

For supplementing low beam (but no where near the long reach of the Fuegos), try the Denali round version - I run the identical VisionX 120 on EzyMounts under the oil cooler. These LED types are a good supplement to low beams, can be left always on if aimed correctly and use little power.

You have to have HID or very high power halogen for the longest possible reach- LEDs aren't there yet though the most powerful do have a usefully long reach compared to those of 3 or 4 years ago..

My driving lights are Hella FF50s using 65W Osram H-7s. I retain this setup because it has ample output and is wired to switch with the hi beam on the bike that also uses the same bulb. Convenient ergonomics. Would replace it with the Fuegos if I need ultimate output but this is already plenty when used with my HID main beams and Vision X LEDs - the set approaches 17,000 lumens total. Going to the Fuegos would boost it to a bit under 20,000 lumens...
 

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Re: Glenda's

The Clearwater Glenda's will mount on my light bracket for the LT's. Slight modification required in order to mount. Glenn is familiar with the changes required..

LT_Pilot said:
You might consider the Clearwater Glenda
and Clearwater Krista high performance LED lights.
They both draw a fraction of power draw compared to HIDs and no ballast.
Glendas are like the Motolights
and give you conspicuity and short range lighting, much like fog lights
The Kristas will replace your PIAA driving lights for long distance penetration.
Both come with a dimmer switch.
Less power draw, no heat, same amount of illumination.
 

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XenonDepot said:
Has anyone tried the Rigid Industries LED Auxiliary Lights ? They are LED and super high quality. I know that they are huge in the off-road community.

Steve
I have been using the D2 Dualy, they are brighter and lit up the road further then any other led light I have tried to date. And on a side note, no electronic noise to affect blue tooth communications.
 

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Thanks for your feedback. This is a new product line for us and so far the only complaint we have received about Rigid Industries is the price...

Is this the product that you have?



While we cannot offer discounts specifically on this product due to strict MAP pricing policies you do get a 5% coupon code by signing up to the KBcarstuff.com mailing list which you can use on any product in our store.

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These Rigid Industries products look interesting. I'm curious to see how they compare to Clearwater Lights' Krista LEDs, in actual usage.
 

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XenonDepot said:
Thanks for your feedback. This is a new product line for us and so far the only complaint we have received about Rigid Industries is the price...

Is this the product that you have?



While we cannot offer discounts specifically on this product due to strict MAP pricing policies you do get a 5% coupon code by signing up to the KBcarstuff.com mailing list which you can use on any product in our store.

Steve
These are the ones I compared to the Krista's, more light, less price, I got mine from Blackdogcycleworks, they were at the Overland Expo last year.
 

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The ones in Hoss' link above (4 LED) produce 1300 lumen each, while Bob's link (6 LED) produces 2600 lumen each.

Quite a price difference. The average 55 W halogen produces 600-700 lumen, so either way you can't go wrong.

For the price, I might try the 4 LED model, and try to mount below the mirrors.
 
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