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I am in the process of digging into the reason for my "intermittent slipping clutch" and decided to do an exploratory pass at the clutch slave seal as a possible culprit. During my ordering of parts from Bob's BMW in MD, the parts guy said, "you may want to replace your OEM clutch with a "wet clutch" should you do a clutch job."

When asked more about the wet clutch, I quickly determined they are now carrying the Siebenrock clutch to avoid clutch issues should a clutch get contaminated with oil/brake fluid. His reasoning was this: LT riders have the option to use a cell phone and being on the road should their clutch go; GS riders are sometimes off road and possibly without cell service.

Nonetheless, they know the issue of the clutch. Interesting to say the least....BTW, the cost will be about $235 - $250 ish.

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There are various group buys by members of this site for the "oil proof" clutch. I have one waiting to go into my LT as soon as I am strong enough to at least be helpful in the process...

Mine came from another member who previously participated in a group buy and was holding on to it for when he needed it. He gave it to me and I will replace it at the next group buy.

IIRC, price was about $200 + $15 or so for shipping; not much different than the price listed from Bob's.
 

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Mine ended up being about $240 with shipping and exchange rate direct from seibenrock. It was not part of a group buy.

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UltraLT said:
southern_nj said:
...you may want to replace your OEM clutch with a "wet clutch" ......
Huh?
Well, a wet clutch is what BMW provides for free - when the seal fails... Ha! :rotf:

Actually, Siebenrock manufactures a DRY clutch that claims to be operating even when coated with oil. Their info is here. I am a bit skeptical: the general difference between dry and wet clutches is that the former press against a machined metal surface of the flywheel, while the latter against a matching fiber disk that can "squeeze off" the oil.

But, really, I do not know much about that. I wonder if there are any Siebenrock users that have suffered oil contamination and could relate their exprience. Manufacturer's demos don't do much for me - I have seen my share of late-night infomercials. :rolleyes:
 

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I'm not sure of the slip factor, But, They claim it won't slip, AND, It won't be ruined by getting oil on it.. You're still going to have to go in there and fix the leak and clean things up... I think the jist of it is that you only have to do just that...

I think it's great that there's an actual source for them now... Yeah Bob's BMW...
I have one of their shirts.. Came with my GS...


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My clutch is on it's last legs. It still shifts fine and is not skipping but with my luck, it will go soon.

My LT now has almost 65K in the original clutch. The slave cylinder went at 35K but other than that- no problems.

My question- what's the big deal about this new clutch? I got 65K on the original why change it to something new? Is it really worth the extra 100 bucks over stock?
 

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RVB1019 said:
My clutch is on it's last legs. It still shifts fine and is not skipping but with my luck, it will go soon.

My LT now has almost 65K in the original clutch. The slave cylinder went at 35K but other than that- no problems.

My question- what's the big deal about this new clutch? I got 65K on the original why change it to something new? Is it really worth the extra 100 bucks over stock?
I have 160,000 miles on my original clutch & it doesn't engage until the lever is almost all the way out. What is yours doing Rob ?.
 

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Well, a wet clutch is what BMW provides for free - when the seal fails... Ha! :rotf:

Actually, Siebenrock manufactures a DRY clutch that claims to be operating even when coated with oil. Their info is here. I am a bit skeptical: the general difference between dry and wet clutches is that the former press against a machined metal surface of the flywheel, while the latter against a matching fiber disk that can "squeeze off" the oil.
The wet clutches I have seen have all had alternating metal and fiber plates. I have not seen a wet clutch that had fiber against fiber. Which bike model had this? My Kawasakis (100 through 1200) all had metal, fiber, metal, fiber, etc., in the stack.
 

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I have 160,000 miles on my original clutch & it doesn't engage until the lever is almost all the way out. What is yours doing Rob ?.
Same thing. It still feels fine and no skipping. But two different techs at two different dealerships have told me it's almost gone. Now I'm paranoid.
 

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If you can't get it to slip in 5th with a hard roll on above 4,000 RPM you still have a long ways to go. Mine would slip once that way then it would not slip again right away. Couldn't get it to do it twice in a row. Still put 3-4K on it before I changed it out. Wasn't oil soaked just close to the wear limit and that was @50K but I did pull a trailer 6,000 miles and slipped the clutch a little too much during that trip.

FWIW I tried to order a clutch direct from Seibenrock but screwed up the transaction and it failed to go through. Then I decided I didn't really need to get one.
 

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I replaced my clutch with a stock clutch. After I put to much fluid in the clutch reservoir. At first it was ok then it started slipping again. I noticed the the adjustment wheel was set on three so I figured what do you have lose. So I adjusted it to one. It stopped slipping. I am a happy man now.
 

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jamesslick said:
I replaced my clutch with a stock clutch. After I put to much fluid in the clutch reservoir. At first it was ok then it started slipping again. I noticed the the adjustment wheel was set on three so I figured what do you have lose. So I adjusted it to one. It stopped slipping. I am a happy man now.
Interesting..I thought that adjustment was just for comfort.
I have 75k on the bike I just bought..have no idea if it has been changed.
Works great..was doing like 40 in 5th and rolled her all the way back..and no slipping.
I have had 4 diff peole look at this bike now and thought it was a lot newer then the 2000 it is.
People guess i paid anywhere from 6 to 10k !
 
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