casamere said:
Alfred02, I'll let them fight that one out between themselves, but if it means that I don't suffer the failure of :- 2x fuel strips, 1x fuel pump controller, ESA front strut, 1x rear wheel bearing, 1x warped rear disc, right hand indicator switch (water ingress) and lastly the ignition unit at 23k I will be quite happy to buy Triumph. And this is all before I have to spend 2,500 AUD on a new clutch.
I am actually not disagreeing with you. It does look like a sweet bike.
We have a local Triumph dealer, so when it hits the floor, I go and have a look.
The reason we pay so much for the BMW's (apart from the name) is the development costs of all these new devices.
Of course other manufacturers will copy the ideas that seem to sell, i.e ABS, heated grips, heated seats, electric windscreen etc etc.
BMW makes the money as they are the first, having developed the technology, which of course costs a lot of money in research.
What is disappointing and I do fully agree here, is that they also should be the one that have got it all sorted out properly before anybody else, who copy and then still have to work out the bugs in the real world.
Unfortunate, that doesn't seem to be happening here.
The whole drive train issues, which just seem to move from one area to the next on the next new model plus still ongoing ABS issues are disappointing.
I am not too concerned about the small items like switches etc, although annoying, it happens with any brand and are usually resolved without too many hassles and even outside of warranty, are not a bank breaker.
But the main components as above, should be covered by BMW even outside the warranty, as parts like final drives, drive shafts, "U" joints should last the life of the bike and should never fail.
Still, despite just having a 2005 R1200RT purchased 2nd hand (which by the way has a crack in the wheel flange..known issue) I still love the bike.
At work we do have a few Triumph's and Honda ST1300.
They just don't excite me what so ever.
The Triumph Trophy SE however being basically a copy of a mix of the BMW bikes, might be a different story.
We will see what their final cost will be and what warranty they offer.