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Hi All,

I have a 2011 R1200RT. I want to have the best front and rear lighting that I can get. I have read many threads about H4, H7, Ostram, Silverstar, PIIA, LED, Modulating tail lights and head lights, etc., etc. I am very confused when it comes to lighting. This will be my first experience in aftermarket lighting on any motorcycle. I want to upgrade the OEM lighting as well as add auxillary lighting.

Given the above, I would really like to talk to a knowledgeable supplier. Someone you can keep it simple and basically give me a few choices, not lots of choices! I don't mind spending the money to do it right. Does anyone have any recommendations? Are most lighting systems plug and play? I like tinkering with engines, carbs, suspension, etc., but I hate dealing with electrics. So, I would like to find a system that is pretty straight forward. If not, I guess a dealer install would be my next option unless someone is familiar with lighting specialist in Ohio or any states east of the Mississippi.

Thanks much,

Chris
 

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I feel your frustration.... The headlight and turn lights on the RT are great already. But if you woulds like to add additional forward lighting I would look into these. The BMW dealers carry them and they can install as well. The smaller units (Glenda) look nice on the RT.

http://clearwaterlights.com/
 

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The first thing you need to decide/define is whether you're looking to enhance your visibility, e.g. brightening up the road, or looking to be more conspicuous to other traffic. For the most part these are two very different things...
 

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The Clearwater Kristas are great. Here is my installation using the Clearwater brackets for the RT:





 

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Thanks for all the replies so far. In regards to the question about visibility versus conspicuousness, I would like to have both. Is it possible to have lights for increasing visibibility as well as lights to increase my chances of being seen? I know they are different products, but do people use both?
 

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SquareHead said:
Thanks for all the replies so far. In regards to the question about visibility versus conspicuousness, I would like to have both. Is it possible to have lights for increasing visibibility as well as lights to increase my chances of being seen? I know they are different products, but do people use both?
Yep,

HID Low beam headlight replacement (4300 to 5K Kelvin rating) with an Osram 65W Halogen High beam bulb and Clearwater Glendas mounted low on the forks for fill-in light and conspicuity. Low on the forks in addition to the head light give the perception of a larger vehicle, when your conspicuity lights are too close to the headlamp they don't work as well in this respect. If I find my pics of this I'll post them

In addition, I would install some sort of flashing aux. led rearbrake light, I have the BMW version, some have had problems with water getting into the unit, but I have not. Unde stand this only flashes (4 or 5 quick flashes) when applying the brakes. But the LRD's ar much brighter the the stock taillight and this is in addition to the stock tail light.

Additonally, you can buy inexpensively 3M precut reflective kit that is custom cut to fit on the rear of the panniers on the unpainted portion. The material looks black until light shines on it. See pics
 

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Headlite modulators are great and I would normally recommend them but the RT isn't a good match for them in my opinion. I've run modulators on every bike I've owned going back about 15+ years, NOT the RT.
Tail lite modulators are illegal in ALL 50 states, federal law. Yep I know some folks advertise them as legal, and some folks run them BUT they are illegal. If you get a pissy cop that pulls you over, it will cost you.
I'm a fan of additional lites as previously linked and the reflective 3M for the saddlebags. If that doesn't get you seen nothing will & its legal.
The stock headlite bulbs are pretty darn good, so I have no plans to change them to something else.
 

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If you want to be seen, get a pair of Clearwater Kristas. Nothing out there are better than these units. My friend told me they interfere with the great lines of the RT but I told him so does the impact when a guy pulls out in front of you.

Here on Southern California freeways you have to make yourself visible to those who aren't paying attention, those who are older and can't really see, those who are texting or talking on cell phones, putting on makeup, eating breakfast, shaving, reading the paper, in a hurry, those who have tunnel vision, screaming at their kids, trying to understand their GPS, those doing 40mph over the posted speed limit, weaving in and out of traffic, racing with other rice burners and so on.

So invest in Kristas or Glendas if you really want to be seen, get a rear modulating tail light from BMW (never had any problem with police out here and they love pulling bikes over), get the reflective 3M stuff...you can purchase it on EBAY for the RT, make sure your jacket is reflective and then go out and ride like everyone is trying to take you out.

Anything you can do to improve your visibility to others is money well spent.
 

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I installed the Keene P3 lights and think they are great. Easy to install and the electric hookup could be easier. They have options to modulate three ways or not at all. Haven't done the front lights yet. But would love the Kristas on the forks.
I'll ask Santa for them.
 

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Okay, here is where I am, let me know your opinions. I know it may sound like overkill, but what do you think?

Front: Kristas under mirrors (Clearwater recommends the Kristas under the mirror becasue the are too big for mounting on the fender), and then Skene Designs Photo Blaster on the front fender.

Rear: Skene Designs P3 lights, and 3M reflective tape on cases.

Also: What is the part number for the Osram 65w bulb to replace the OEM Bulb? Does anyone have suggestions that they feel better than teh Osram 65w?

Thanks!
 

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Tail lite modulators are illegal in ALL 50 states, federal law. Yep I know some folks advertise them as legal, and some folks run them BUT they are illegal. If you get a pissy cop that pulls you over, it will cost you.
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Citation of the statute please ...??

You can flash tail lights if braking or stopping. Only illegal use of red is if it is forward flashing. You might take note that many police bikes use the flashing lamps.
 

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I'm guessing that you want the Osram H7 Rallye 65W. The extra 10W does not seem to add extra heat or stress on the factory wiring. Check out Candlepower Inc. and Daniel Stern Lighting. Of all the replacement bulbs available this bulb seems to offer the best light and longest life for the most reasonable cost. You can replace both high and low beam with this bulb and remain street legal (at least where I live) at 4000 kelvin.

This proved the best option for me as I don't ride much at night. Probably the optimum lighting would be full HID or Xenon. If you search the forum you will see that some of the members are quite pleased with their conversion kits.
 
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