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Thanks great info. I had a vague idea about this only because I drive a factory equipped ford. I would be interested to know what you would see as the best combination of products to go with my GTL, should it ever arrive. They are going to use the garmin Nav 4 gps and since I have difficulty getting a comfortable fit would like to be able wire various helmets.
 

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fremme said:
I have now made a writeup from my understanding of the audio system on the bike.

Find at : http://bt.my-mc.com

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Steinar,
Thanks for the write up, it DOES answer some questions I have had about the bluetooth on the bike. :thumb:
 

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Thanks STeinar for the great web site and informative information. It is really helping me to understand what I have ordered..
 

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One thing I have not received confirmation on is the bluetooth audio quality and should I expect the same that I presently get ( fair and not great) from a wired intercom?

Going from a wired intercom with speakers in the helmet, when listening to music, it's ok. Will it be the same with bluetooth?

Sorry if the answer is posted elsewhere. I missed it. Too many duplicate sites and duplicate threads. Maybe the madness will eventually consolidate to one!
 

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My personal view !!!

If you have a good source - a high quality intercom - and not least good quality speakers - nothing can compare to that.

But playing mp3 etc - is from the start - crippled.
mp3 is already compressed digitally, and feeding it into a Bluetooth system - will again try to compress it - and also need to decompress and do a dig2Analog conversion.

The mp3 is not feed directly as binary data to the bluetooth - it will be dig2ana converted - then ana2dig - finally dig2ana again.

All this manipulating of the data - will cripple it - more or less.

But - riding the bike will give you quite a bit of wind noise - and then you will probably not hear any difference.

I have now tested 3 different bluetooth systems, but I'm now on wired system om my GTL ;)
Don't ask me to range the different ones, as they all are different in all aspects. Not only in sound quality.

It's all about what quality you want or need when riding ?!?

And - using HIGH quality speakers and correct mounted in the helmet is probably more important.

Personally - I feel that it's a bit premature to go into full bluetooth now.
It will upgrade and new protocols will be made - to make it "the" perfect system for the bike.
I think it will take another year or two.

Then I will probably switch to bluetooth, but not now !

I'm using bluetooth from the GPS and cellphone - and for that it's good enough, but not for music - at least not for me :)
 

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THANKS - Exactly the information I was looking for. Sort of confirms what i was hearing.
 

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On a motorcycle there is literally no audible difference between Bluetooth and wired, but Bluetooth is significantly more convenient and safer because you don't have to plug yourself into and out of the bike whenever getting on or off it. I used a wired system briefly before getting my Bluetooth receiver and it sucked. And there was no difference in sound quality.
 

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I don't understand why the new BMW Bluetooth headset communicators can ONLY be installed in Schuberth C-3 helmets.

Can someone possibly explain that to me?

I recently tried on the C-3 (liked the helmet, but didn't like the price), and it seems to me that there is less room inside for installing additional components than there is in the new Shoei I bought instead of the C-3.

I'm very disappointed to learn that none of the other Bluetooth headsets on the market will function totally and reliably with the new bike -- I also have a Zumo 660 that.is reported on this forum to not integrate as well as the BMW Navigator IV.

I have K1600GT on order, but I'm thinking seriously of canceling. When I ordered the bike I didn't realize that two expensive new helmets, two expensive proprietary headsets, and a new expensive GPS navigator would be required to achieve full functionality.
 

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The rear padding of the Schuberth is replaced in kind by the BMW Bluetooth system designed in the padding. It was designed to snap out the Schuberth and snap in the BMW system, run the velcro pads to the ear sections, run the wires and ear sets and the boom mike out front. Then you pair it to your systems. The Schuberth has the identical system but BMW worked with them to make the system totally compatible to the 1600GTL. Any other helmet or system has to be modified or added on where the BMW system was designed for the bike and specifically to replace the system Schuberth had designed for the C3. And yeah, it is expensive!
 

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Thanks DocBruce.

I understand that you are saying that the BMW Bluetooth system is similar to the Cardo SRC system in that it utilizes the interior padding of the Schuberth C-3 to hold some of the electronic components of the system.

That explains it for me.

I guess I'll be returning my unused new Shoei helmet and purchasing a C-3.
 

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This link is dead now, I came late to the party obviously :(

Is there anywhere else to get the info?
 
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