BMW Luxury Touring Community banner
1 - 20 of 52 Posts

· Registered
2015 K1600GTL Exclusive
Joined
·
170 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I am doing my 24K service this week and decided I am going to switch to Amsoil synthetic oil for the engine, rear end and tranny. I am also thinking about using an Amsoil oil filter. This filter is painted so it makes me a little apprehensive about using it. Should I use the BMW stock filter or would it be OK to use the Amsoil filter. Any comments would be grately appreciated. :bmw:
 

· Registered
Joined
·
7,191 Posts
Caper11 said:
I am doing my 24K service this week and decided I am going to switch to Amsoil synthetic oil for the engine, rear end and tranny. I am also thinking about using an Amsoil oil filter. This filter is painted so it makes me a little apprehensive about using it. Should I use the BMW stock filter or would it be OK to use the Amsoil filter. Any comments would be grately appreciated. :bmw:
We've been using them on multiple LT's for many, many thousands of miles with no problemo or paint flaking. If you have one, don't hesitate to use it.



 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
4,572 Posts
Why take the chance?

The cost of a filter is so small in relation to all other maintenance items, and the paint can come off. There is no guaranteed it won't, and if it does, look at the problems you'll have from saving a dollar or two. I just don't understand why.
 

· Banned
Joined
·
430 Posts
Dano,

I guess people prefer the superior flow, filtration and double the oil change interval that the AMSOIL products provide. Plus they have a warranty should their oil or filter cause problems, they pay for parts and labor of any affected part.
 

· Registered
1999 LTC
Joined
·
9,612 Posts
Anybody know if that K1200LT filter cover plate is painted black on the inside surface? Or is the whole deal black thru and thru?

And BTW - around these parts, we've prolly got well over a million miles on Amsoil filters and nary a paint veneer loss yet. Anybody ever heard of a problem with the Amsoil filter coating?
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
4,572 Posts
I'd hate to have to prove.....

TimVipond said:
Dano,

I guess people prefer the superior flow, filtration and double the oil change interval that the AMSOIL products provide. Plus they have a warranty should their oil or filter cause problems, they pay for parts and labor of any affected part.
Thanks, Tim,

I can understand your reasons based upon the stated benefits, it's just that if it came down to having to prove what happened or didn't happen because of not using a simple $12.00 filter, the burden would be on you and your "team" of experts. For me, it just isn't worth the risk.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
1,523 Posts
Dick, good question and I'm pretty sure that it is finished on the inside. I remember cleaning out the O-ring groove and noticing there was some "imperfection" of the finish on the inside.

Now, what kind of finish is it. Paint? Powder Coat? Epoxy? And is it even close to what any of the filter gurus finish their products with? I've no idea.
 

· IBR# 366
Joined
·
12,242 Posts
BMW part # 11002300053 OIL CHANGE KIT (with o-ring and crush rings) lists for $17.00 at Chicago BMW, $13.60 with their 20 percent discount. Add shipping charges of course, but you can also buy several filters and all the 12K service parts to help spread the shipping costs out some.
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
243 Posts
Paint flecks

Has anyone ever heard of paint coming off a filter?? I've been using Amsoil in all my vehicles ( no, I'm not a dealer ) for over 15 years and have never seen any paint. I think this comes from the same ole wives tale (I know I'm gonna piss off David S. ) but has anyone ever heard of a Cee-Bailey windshield turning into shards upon impact? Remember, Cee Baily got their start manufacturing windshields for aircraft flying substantially faster than an LT. Just my $.02 worth.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
7,191 Posts
I'm not an Amsoil cheerleader. But, as Dick pointed out, success with their oil filters around here. I've dropped them, or personally seen them dropped, out of LT's time after time without the slightest speck of any kind of paint detrimention.

Since a personal friend of mine (Swanzy) has kindly chunked them into the oil filter drawer over the years, yes I said years, they've been extensively used. I believe I put around 80,000 miles on my LT with them in it and I know Tim has done well over 100,000 miles.

It may be early, and I may be hallucinating (fixing to head to the coast to go fishing), but no paint has come off of them to date. If you have one, you can use it with confidence.

BTW, pulling them hot from the engine doesn't even mar the paint.



 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
1,761 Posts
Gunna Burst the Bubble on Amsoil Filters

Well guys I gotta tell you the bad news on Amsoil Filters; They've been redesigned. I bought 4 the other day and set them on the shelf for my next rounds of service and noticed the number change. Low and behold the filter is slightly smaller in diameter and you've prolly guessed it... your filter wrench will not fit. I returned them and was told the new number supersedes the old and is the only filter available. I'm back to using BMW filters and kits.

BTW and FWIW... I have over 80k and not a bit of problems with paint (or whatever coating the Amsoil filters have one them) coming off. They have been totally safe thus far, but it looks like we will have to get another filter wrench to use them.
 

· Banned
Joined
·
430 Posts
Ernie, Are you talking about the change in number from SMF122 to EaOM122? The change is for the better as the new filters have the new exclusive nanofiber media for filtration of smaller particles, hold more particles, flow better, and are now warranteed for parts and labor for 12 months instead of 6 months. Even if I have to buy another oil filter wrench, it is more than worth it for me. Shoot, the cost of the wrench plus 1 new filter probably costs less than buying 2 BMW or the old AMSOIL filters.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
5,746 Posts
graydude said:
Has anyone ever heard of paint coming off a filter?? I've been using Amsoil in all my vehicles ( no, I'm not a dealer ) for over 15 years and have never seen any paint.
Do you have any vehicles other than the LT which have a filter IN the oil? I never heard of any actually flaking either, but saw no reason once the "possibility" was raised to take a chance.
I think this comes from the same ole wives tale (I know I'm gonna piss off David S. ) but has anyone ever heard of a Cee-Bailey windshield turning into shards upon impact? Remember, Cee Baily got their start manufacturing windshields for aircraft flying substantially faster than an LT. Just my $.02 worth.
First, aircraft windshields on most general aviation aircraft will shatter if hit hard. I have seen a couple of these, one at the flying club I belonged to that hit a bird in the traffic pattern. There were sharp shards still in the frame, and pieces in the cockpit. I have not heard of anyone being impaled by a shard of broken acrylic motorcycle windshield, but the fact that Acrylic will shatter, Polycarbonate will not again leads me to want Polycarbonate in front of me, again, reducing the chances I would be hurt by a shard of Acrylic in an accident. In an aircraft, you are in the path of pieces that may be carried back by the windstream, on a motorcycle you are likely to impact the pieces which may be held in front of you by the mounting, or against something hard, which is likely worse than having them blown back by wind. When I cut down my first LT windshield I put the cut off piece in my vise and pounded on it with a hammer. Eventually folded it over, and then pounded the bend flat, not even cracks in the plastic. Acrylic would have been all over my gararge with the first strike. Just my choice to reduce the odds in that case, and since I always looked over the shield, it's clarity meant little. Yeah, the acrylic shields are "prettier", but that was not my main desire for a windshield.

Hey, it in no way "pisses me off", everyone sets their own level of safety requirements in each area, so we all are different. I have had three very bad accidents, all wearing a 3/4 helmet, when I know that a full helmet is better coverage (fortunately I suffered no serious head injuries in any of them) I still shudder when I look at that last helmet though! My head hit the pavement four different times, at different places and angles. I had a little road rash on my nose and upper lip, but that healed fast. I just set the bar for comfort vs. probable protection level in a helmet at a different level than many do.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
4,553 Posts
Nope and I've used them in all but one oil change in the last 60K miles.
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
1,761 Posts
TimVipond said:
Ernie, Are you talking about the change in number from SMF122 to EaOM122? The change is for the better as the new filters have the new exclusive nanofiber media for filtration of smaller particles, hold more particles, flow better, and are now warranteed for parts and labor for 12 months instead of 6 months. Even if I have to buy another oil filter wrench, it is more than worth it for me. Shoot, the cost of the wrench plus 1 new filter probably costs less than buying 2 BMW or the old AMSOIL filters.
Find a filter wrench that fits and you are on your way. I searched all the local autoparts houses and none have one that will fit in the opening and fit the diameter of the filter. If you find something that works for you please share the info, because there are a lot of us that would like to know.
 

· Banned
Joined
·
430 Posts
ErnieA said:
Find a filter wrench that fits and you are on your way. I searched all the local autoparts houses and none have one that will fit in the opening and fit the diameter of the filter. If you find something that works for you please share the info, because there are a lot of us that would like to know.
Weird. I've used the same filter wrench end cap that was given to me 6 years ago by the owner of the 2000 K1200LT that I bought from him for both the SMF122 and the EaOM122 filters. I'm due for another oil change in December and will be installing an EaOM122 filter I bought 6 months ago. Maybe the problem is with a current production run? If anything, the dozen previous AMSOIL filters were a little too tight. Sounds like I may be using a smaller filter wrench than you. It either has to be a thin wall wrench to fit in the opening, or I think some had to shave off the outer lip of the wrench to get it to fit in the opening.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
1,177 Posts
Wait until AMSOIL makes them un-painted!

graydude said:
Has anyone ever heard of paint coming off a filter?? I've been using Amsoil in all my vehicles ( no, I'm not a dealer ) for over 15 years and have never seen any paint. I think this comes from the same ole wives tale (I know I'm gonna piss off David S. ) but has anyone ever heard of a Cee-Bailey windshield turning into shards upon impact? Remember, Cee Baily got their start manufacturing windshields for aircraft flying substantially faster than an LT. Just my $.02 worth.
I LOVE Amsoil product and have a commercial account, but,

I just now checked 3 filters in my garage (For my auto's), two are perfect, one has paint bubbles around the crimped beading at the gasket and loose paint.

If you completely trust placing them IN THE OIL I would STRONGLY suggest using a plastic wrench or something to prevent scratching the flats.

My mechanical knowledge is my nemesis, I personally I would always be worried about paint flaking and playing havoc in the engines lubrication system. With my luck it will happen to me!:(



Tim,

I thought I read (on their web site) that Amsoil allows you to double the change interval using their oil. (12,000 mile vs. 6,000) (Harley 10,000 vs. 5,000)

Am I correct?
 

· Banned
Joined
·
430 Posts
Tim,

I thought I read (on their web site) that Amsoil allows you to double the change interval using their oil. (12,000 mile vs. 6,000) (Harley 10,000 vs. 5,000)

Am I correct?[/QUOTE]

Correct, up to double the OEM oil change interval for the oil and the AMSOIL filter or 1 year whichever comes first. They've got car oils up to 35,000 miles normal driving or one year, whichever is first. I wish they had that for motorcycles!
 
1 - 20 of 52 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top