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A Rick Mayer Cycle Seat Testimonial

I feel that I should give some background for this story to make more sense. It might help for those that read this to better understand the feelings I have for TT, my bike. Yes, I know that this will not change the world, but though the world wide web, I hope to reach people that are thinking of a Rick Mayer seat and give them a bit of advise. Do not.
I work very hard for my money. Just like the ones of you reading this do. I am not married. No kids. Ok, I am re thinking on how much background info to share. I do HVAC work and until I bought my bike, I would tell others that my tools are my babies. Please respect them. Well, after getting TT, I still tell others that, but it is not as strong, not as much feeling. (Hope the tools are not reading). I love the feel of freedom when I am going down the road. I will not bore you, just insert your own feelings when you are riding.
TT is my second bike. The first one was a lemon and after some talking with BMW NA, they decided the same and stepped up and made things right and made a customer for probably life and a spokesman as well. TT stands for Take Two, and it seems to suit her. I put 6000 miles in the first two months of receiving her. I love my bike and she loves the road. I had the first bike long enough to realize that I am shorter than the average German citizen, and bought the low profile seat to be installed on TT at the dealership before she was delivered. Talk about night and day. Before I was on tiptoes. Did I mention that before this I have ridden about 400 miles on a motorcycle? Period. And yes, I know that I did not do it the right way by working my way up, but I knew that this was the bike for me.
Like I said the feeling of being able to almost flatfoot the bike as great for my riding. But, I had another problem. My hindquarters did not fall in love with the seat at all. I did some research, obvious not enough, but after reading Rick’s Iron Butt Rally story I was pretty sure that he would know how to build a saddle that was comfortable.
Like I mentioned, I work hard and a lot of hours. I averaged 68 hours a week for the year that I bought TT. I received TT March 19 2007. I do not take time off. The company that I work for now makes you takes time off or you lose the time. I took the week off that I bought my bike. I did do some other stuff, but I stayed in town. After getting TT, and riding a lot, I realized that I wanted to ride somewhere for vacation in late 07. After talking it with my boss, decided that Thanksgiving time would be good for work. Works for me as well since I can take off more time and get paid, blah. You get the picture. I have two close friends, Chris and Johnny. They ride, and we started talking and planning. Most thought we were crazy. They don’t ride like we ride. We decided that we wanted to ride from Atlanta GA to AZ. Two weeks. Just us and the road and the sites.
Of course, I knew that I needed a new saddle for the distances. I knew from a 650 mile day that the factory seat would not work. Of course I put it off, and finally contacted Rick Mayer.
Explained to Rick that I was looking for three things. And could, would and did he want to work with these three things.
1 Could Rick work with my deadline? Yes, he could and did. I paid for the seat to be fast shipped to my dealer where TT was getting new shoes and her checkup. The seat arrived the day before we left for the trip. This was planned.
2 The seat had to be comfortable. And in his defense (I am way too nice of a guy, might explain why it seems I am always getting the short end of the straw) the seat is very comfortable. I hate to think of the 5530 miles we did in two weeks without he seat. I did 854 the second day the seat.
3 Ok Mike, seems like you got two out three. What you think that just because you bought a bike you deserve what you want? The third item was that the new seat be like the low profile. And it was not.

Remember the old style bicycle seats where the seat has wings? Now picture a current type of bicycle seat where it is tapered. The low profile seat from BMW is tapered. The factory uses the same base pan as their comfort touch seat; they just remove some foam on the sides so your feet reach the ground better. Rick Mayer of Rick Mayer Cycle explained this to me because I was concerned about using one of his base pans. If I needed to send him the one off the bike or could he use one of his stock pans. It is hard to ride TT without a seat, so this was the best thing to do. Gets the custom seats made, and still ride. Just ship my seats to Rick after he shipped the new ones to me. He charges a deposit that he returns. Well I think he will. I have an email.
The seats that Rick has sent me are like the old style bicycle seats. You sit in a pocket. There are sides (I call them wings). Now I am sitting in a pocket that I have to come up and put my legs down around extra material on the sides in order to reach the ground. Just like I had to do on the comfort touch seat from BMW.
Do you, if you have not clicked your browser back yet, or fallen asleep, se the problem? I asked Rick to build me a seat based on a low profile seat. I sent him an email after we talked, at his request, to make sure he had the order correct. He wanted me to get what I asked for. That is what I thought at the time. I am not sure what to think now. I sent him pictures of my bike, and me sitting on my bike with the low profile seat installed. My dealer never gave me the comfort touch seat (another story). The low profile seat was what I wanted and needed. I am shorter than the average person is. I stand 5’7ish bare foot, almost a towering 5’9” in the boots I ride in. That I was riding in the pictures I sent to Rick. The pictures are the bike, you sitting on the bike on the centerstand, and you sitting on the bike as if you were at a stop. I am almost flatfooted in the pictures without any discomfort in the crouch
I should mention that when I ordered the seat, I ordered the rider’s seat to be customed, the passenger to just be recovered to match. I ordered grey leather. It is a darkish color on the web site. Rick told me he would have his vendor sent me a sample to make sure that I liked the color. He told me this on two different times. I ordered a rain cover. I ordered or paid for fast shipping for the seat because of my waiting almost too long to order the seat. I ordered conditioner for the seats. Rick said that he would give me the conditioner at no charge.
Let’s see. The seat color that showed up is a Very light grey. I never received a sample form the vendor. After the trip, returned the seat to Rick for adjustment and to be recovered in black. Offered to pay the 200 dollars that Rick mentioned, but he told me he would split it with me. I might have misheard the 200 because I was charged 135. Honestly I could be wrong, and at this point, who really cares.
After three shipping’s. I have never received a rain cover.
I did receive the conditioner the second shipping.
After getting the second set of seats, I installed the passenger and passenger backrest. I did not install them for the trip. I had really hard time with the backrest, seemed it was off somewhere. Looked at the one I took off and the one Rick sent me had been repaired. Two of the insert nuts had been replaced. Looked like they were forced into place and melted there. The factory ones slips a bit. Also noticed that the backrest basepan was a bit bend. It is plastic and might have warped some. I am probably the only one to see that the top of it does not fit agsaint the trunk lid like the factory one did. I took mine time putting the backrest on, almost decided to make the holes a bit bigger, but did not because at that point I still thought that Rick was a good guy, and a good saddle maker. I would have called or sent an email but Rick office hours are limited to 6 hours on 4 days. Good luck reaching him during those hours. After I received the third front seat and it still being like the comfort seat, evenso I had by now shipped my low profile seat to Rick so he could see exactly what I wanted and needed, I decided that I would ship everything back to Rick, get my seats back and find someone else. When I was removing the passenger backrest, I found that I had caused pressure cracks on the inside and outside of the trunk lid. I still get a sick feeling just thinking about it. I did receive an email where Rick apologized. I wonder how much that is worth.
After receiving the second seat from Rick that was still not right, I sent Rick an email. I included the original email that recapped the original order, the low profile seat. I received from Rick an email back saying that he could not built the seat just like I wanted to. That there were constraints in the building of the seat and for the price of comfort, I would have to live with being on my tiptoes. I dropped my bike during the trip to AZ. Now 75% of that was my fault, but I would love to try that slope again on my low profile seat.
I also told Rick that I felt that the seat felt just like the low profile seat. I was tempted to remove the sear cover to see if the foam had even been changed. My butt told my brain that the feeling was the same. Rick was very insulted that I would even consider the thought. How dare I tell the guy that is making me seat how it feels?
Also told Rick that in I opinion that the leather was not very good quality. Apparently I do not know fine leather. My Lazy Boy recliner has leather on it. I own a few leather jackets. I do care for leather much to wear, so I wear mesh and such. Rick was very offended that I even tell him that the leather, to this humble HVAC mechanic did not look good. Actually, some of this was in an email, and some was in a conversation.
Rick also told me that he did not design the 800-LB bike I bought, so that I could expect him to fix the height issue. What? The factory has a great fix. It is the low profile seat, just the foam sucks to seat on.
After leaving messages on Rick machine and sending emails and shipping back to Rick his seats, I have asked for a refund and my seats back. Well, I will not be receiving my money back. Seems that he will not refund money back. He is the manufactor so he would have to take the lose. I have told and emailed Rick that I want my seats backs. Not his, mine. The BMW seats. I have contacted two different companies that actually returned emails within a day (one guy on a Sunday no less). I have ordered from my dealer a new low profile seat. I have not a clue if Rick is going to send me my passenger stuff back, so I guess I will have to order them as well.
I do know I have spent around 250 in shipping. 135 for recovering the seats. 355 for another BMW low profile seat. Anyone know how much for a trunk lid? (No comments on this item, something is in the works). I think the seat were like 750 plus the 500 deposit. Have not checked on the passenger backrest and seat…did I mention that I do not ride two up? I have only been riding a year. I hope that Rick does return the deposit as he said he would. The original charge to my card was back in November or October and I will check with my check card company but two months have passed so I doubt that will pan out. And I still do not have a custom seat for my bike. The date is March 22, 2008; I have around 17500 miles on my bike. I have not ridden much in the past few months because of no seat on the bike. I just picked up my new low profile seat from the dealer last weekend. I am working Easter weekend so I can have a three day weekend nest weekend. Doubt I will be riding though. Will have to see if the Bakup backrest holds the rider’s seat a bit better.
You do the math. I will try not to so I do not get any more upset. I would use stronger language but I intend to research the different bikes that Rick makes seats for and submitting this same letter to those forums. I am just one person. I know I will not make a difference. I hope to find a seat maker that will work with me (read KonTour or Bill Mayer). I sent them emails asking if what I wanted was possible to build and them said yes. Maybe I ought to have waited to post this after I chose one. I can see where neither one of them will want to deal with me nor who can blame them. How dare I expect something that I ask you if you can build it, and you tell me you can? But you do not deliver it. You tell me that you did not design the bike I bought? I should consulted with Rick Mayer before buying my motorcycle and not on a seat. Sorry if I am ranting but put yourself in my shoes.
I went to the IMS in Atlanta this year, and met Rick in person. Told the two guys that he was talking to that he can build a great seat. I wonder if I send this email to IMS if they would ask Rick to get another booth, but I am just one person and money talks.
And he can built you a great if you are tall enough. I guess taller than 5’9”. I remember when I was ordering my seat that I was going to ask Rick to put his logo on my seat, emboss it or something. I also remember thinking that heck, if I did such a great job building a seat, you are darn straight that I am putting my name on it. That would explain why Rick does not put his name on the seat. That is my two cents worth, well, I am not doing the math, all I can say is do not deal with this guy where you want something different.
I do not know if this makes any sense, if anyone is still reading. I have kept all the emails I have sent and received dealing with this. I offer these to anyone to see if I am difficult to deal with.
 

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Sounds like you may have jumped in a little too soon on a "major" mod like a new seat with only 400 miles of experience. There are threads all about seats on this site, check 'em out.

Here is what Russel Day Long Saddles has to say on the topic of seat height. From day-long.com

Seat height....
Q. I've heard that a "Day-Long" Saddle is about an inch higher than my stock seat. Is this always true?

A. I have difficulty relating to the question in terms of inches of seat height....there are just too many variables involved, i.e., are we measuring the surface of the seat while the foam is at rest? or when it's compressed by the rider's weight? Are we measuring relative to the ground? If so, is the bike's suspension compressed by the weight of a normal load? Height measurements taken at different points across the top surface of a "Day-Long" Saddle will normally vary by 1.5 inches or more, at what point are we measuring?, etc.

The real question should not be how high is the seat, rather, "will I be able to reach the ground adequately?" More often than not, especially with a shorter legged rider, ground reach is limited more by the width of the seat than it is by the relative height of the seat. For these reasons, in my opinion, to say one has gained or lost an inch or fraction of an inch in seat height is largely irrelevant.

Because of the design of a "Day-Long" Saddle the rearward part, I call it the "wing" area, of the saddle is quite wide. This is, incidentally, at the very heart of the reason why it can provide so high a degree of riding comfort. The wide "wings" are there to provide outer buttock support so that less body weight will be concentrated toward the center. The forward part of the saddle is made as narrow as the underlying seat pan and motorcycle frame will permit, in other words, about the same width as the stock seat. Because of the ground reach impairment that is imposed by this width factor it is generally unrealistic to expect much if any improvement in ground reach from a "Day-Long" compared to a stock seat.

On the other hand, a rider's ground reach is usually not degraded by the "Day-Long", with this one proviso: It may become necessary, especially for a shorter legged rider, to develop the habit of moving his crotch forward on the saddle so as to straddle it at its narrowest point in order to achieve adequate ground reach. In other words, stand up out of the pocket of the saddle when coming to a stop. Settle back into the pocket again once you're underway.

For sure, we've had some extreme cases, riders with very short inseams, and large, heavy thighs, that we've bought seats back from. A rider's attitude and his kind of riding sometimes has a lot to do with it too. Some customer's have said in effect "I don't care if I can reach the ground or not, I want to be comfortable when I'm going down the road!" Obviously, it would be more of a problem if you only rode in heavy stop and go traffic than it would if you only rode long highway stretches.

But back to your question, no, this is not always true. Remember, each "Day-Long" Saddle is made to order to fit the particular individual rider or riders. For some long legged riders on lower seated bikes we actually increase the seat height in order to achieve better all around posture.
 

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I read and understand what you are saying...and I was saying that I bought my bike after riding other bikes for 400 miles or so...I had TT for roughly 9000 miles when I contacted Rick Mayer...I had a little over 10000 when the first seat when on...thanks for the info, I will re read it again so that I understand it better...Like I might have said in the first post...I am so udderly mad...I really wish I could cuss but what would be the point...If Rick had told me this stuff first, I would not be mad, I would have known that we were taking a walk on the wild side...My biggest complaint is that I told Rick what I wanted up front...asked can you build it?..do you want to build it, and he basically sent me what he sends everyone...this is a factory seat, a low profile seat that BMW makes...am I dumb or live in another world or am I the only one that has a low profile factory seat...sorry, I am ranting again and I do not want too...again thanks for the info....Mike
 

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I ride with a low height factory seat. I have for 3 years. I have not attempted to replace it. But, have used a combination of removable beads and a removable sheepskin to improve long distance comfort.

I have learned that unless I am local to the company making something custom for me, have the opportunity to sit with them face to face, and try it out, I will not take the time and effort to move in that direction. Too much trouble and too many chances of missing the mark.

From what you are saying, it wouldn't be hard to understand your frustration. That seems to have rubbed off on the seat builder to the point where he will not communicate with you anymore.

I have found you get more bees with honey then vinegar.... Though it takes a major effort when you are really frustrated..

Good luck.
 

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Wow !! That's a total rant alt guy -- Tough way to go through life..
I'm gonna guess this has more to do with the author's need for a medication change than a seat adjustment ......... :rotf:
Come on ... you were all thinking the same !! :rolleyes:
 

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I have learned that unless I am local to the company making something custom for me, have the opportunity to sit with them face to face, and try it out, I will not take the time and effort to move in that direction. Too much trouble and too many chances of missing the mark.
I couldn't agree more. I have a Rick Mayer seat and am happy with it now. That has not always been the case. My seat arrived needing modifications jut to fit on the LT. I called Rick and he was able to talk me through the modifications. It seems like not as much attention was paid to my order as it would have been had I ridden in to have the seat made.

Custom seats, like custom clothing, are not something you can order online or over the telephone without expecting at least some issues.
 

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I just completed my first SS 1000 Ironbutt ride yesterday. I have an Rick Mayer seat. I never even thought about the seat accept to note how comfortable it was. But I did a ride in appointment.
 

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I couldn't agree more. I have a Rick Mayer seat and am happy with it now. That has not always been the case. My seat arrived needing modifications jut to fit on the LT. I called Rick and he was able to talk me through the modifications. It seems like not as much attention was paid to my order as it would have been had I ridden in to have the seat made.

Custom seats, like custom clothing, are not something you can order online or over the telephone without expecting at least some issues.
It's like trying to buy a pair of pants on the internet when you don't know what size you wear. Your always going to get a better fit when you can try it on and have the talyor measure you in person.

The problem with someone getting on their :soapbox: and starting a :rant: about a dealer or vendor is we only hear one side of the story. Everyone knows that there are three sides to a story right? In this case the customer, the vendor and then the real story somewhere inbetween. Why is it way too many people will go off the deep end to try and drive away business from a vendor when something goes wrong but hardly ever say a word if things go perfect. :think: ????

Well here's my Rick Mayer story over the years (abridged version)
Over the last 8 years I have had Rick fit me and make 4 seats for an LT, 2 Rts and a GS. All leather but one and that was a mistake, Rick tried to warn me but I learned the hard way. Every leather seat has been the highest of quality and with a little care they hold up great year after year. Currently my GS seat is two years old and has been drug through enough dust, dirt and mud under my big butt to have thrown in the white towel. But its still holding up and looks great.
Yes I have received an adjustment on every seat after riding them for a couple of thousand miles. Rick has been very accommodating and gets it right on the money after looking at the seat wear and asking me a few questions. I've had nothing but outstanding service from Rick Mayer Cycle, in fact a Rally this last year. Rick saw my saddle and found a couple a frayed stichs, offered a new cover right there on the spot. I haven't taken him up on it because I don't even notice it. I would recommend Rick to anyone and if you can't make it to CA to have your saddle done. I would carefully order one and after you receive it, take a ride out here and have Rick adjust the seat to your liking.
Just the other side of the coin.
Ride Safe
 

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The problem with someone getting on their :soapbox: and starting a :rant: about a dealer or vendor is we only hear one side of the story. Everyone knows that there are three sides to a story right? In this case the customer, the vendor and then the real story somewhere inbetween. Why is it way too many people will go off the deep end to try and drive away business from a vendor when something goes wrong but hardly ever say a word if things go perfect. :think: ????

Well here's my Rick Mayer story over the years
And mine:

My first Mayer seat was built by Rick's dad, Bill. I had to send it back once but then put almost 80,000 miles on it on two bikes. It finally had a little split in the fabric (that's right, Bill talked me out of leather because of the AZ climate, never was sorry) when I sold the RT and the seat. My next Mayer was for my KLR650. Bill had passed away so it was between Rick and his brother Rocky. I chose Rick for his personal touch. The KLR seat is on it's second KLR, going on almost 35,000 miles, looks and rides like new, fits great. The last Mayer was for my FJR1300. I had a little trouble with the expected shipping dates but Rick finally FedX'd it me at his expense. It is a great seat, 44,000 miles now and counting! So as AMARider said, there are two sides to every story. And the original poster took up WAY TOO MUCH bandwidth with his rant (and then to admit that the seat was comfortable!.) But it is a free world. I just have to add my '03 on Rick's behalf.
 

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Guys, I hear ya, and I cant take my medicine because TT is missing something...I am hoping that I can put the Bakup backrest on her and that will stabilize the rider seat so I can take my medicine...I have not been here much because it hurts to hear of the rides others are having...and as I posted back late nov, the seat was way comfortable, I rode 854 miles in one day with no pain...again, it is notthe seat that we agreed on...what is the point of getting a custom seat and not receiving what you ordered and paid for and asked for...and yes there are two sides to every story....I would love to hear Rick's side...I will take the time in the interest of fairness and post all the emails between Rick and myself if you would care to read them...I am not trying to start anything...just wanted to express my total and udder confustion of asking for a seat based on a low profile seat and not getting what I ordered...the lowe profile seat is perfect, i can reach the ground, I have good control with it, but it seems that I am asking too much...let me know ....ya know, screw this crap....yall love Rick, and I am very glad that you had a good experience...thanks....Mike
 

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I Understand your frustration but please don't post any private emails.........

From the Site Guidelines:
What's said behind closed doors stays behind closed doors: Don't air your (or anyone else's) dirty laundry in public. There is absolutely NO NEED to post a private email in a public forum. It is inconsiderate and violates an unsaid trust between you and the sender. Treat private emails the same way you would a telephone call. How would you like your private conversation between you and another member of the group played out on CNN?

Best advice I have ever received is go for a long ride.

Just Ride it
John
 

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That's quite a rant. Honestly, all the fluff about how hard you work and how much you value your money is a waste of my time and everyone elses. We all work hard, we all value our money, and to hear you go on and on about yours tells me you think that I don't value mine. I find that a bit condescending and rude. Just what kind of sympathy are you looking for?

I've had Rick Mayer seats on my last 3 bikes and am heading up some to get one made for my new GT. He's made adjustments and even recovered mine when asked, and always did a great job and got me what I needed. I keep going back because he is really good at what he does and in my opinion the best. I've taken or directed a number of friends to him for seats and they've all come away absolutely satisfied. That being said, nobody can provide 100% satisfaction to all customers. That's unfortunate, but since humans are involved in these transactions and subjectivity is the main force at play it's basically impossible to achieve.

So let me get a few things straight -
  • You order a custom seat, put it on the day before a 5000+ mile ride and took off. With no time to make sure it met your needs or to make any adjustments.
  • You found it completely comfortable on this ride, but a little tall and sent it back for adjustments. A bunch of stuff transpired (honestly I can't figure out the details from the amount of stuff you wrote) that basically made you decide to give up on getting the saddle fixed to your desires
  • You asked for a refund, which Rick declined since you were likely outside of his published refund policy - http://www.rickmayercycle.com/guarantee.html
  • Somewhere along the way you accused Rick of cheating you, and he took offense to this.
I've known Rick now for almost 7 years and he has been nothing but accommodating to me, my friends and the folks I know who have his saddles. I would certainly like to hear his side of this, since I know it takes quite a bit to put him to the point of not wanting to work with someone on making a seat right. But, I know it can be done (calling the guy a liar or a cheat is a good way to do that).

My suggestion - Find a saddle make you can ride into his shop and make sure he does EXACTLY what you ask for. From what I can tell you're not going to be happy otherwise.
 

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I had a Ricky seat on my 03 GT. After two tries to fix it I canceled the card and tore the leather cover of my seat and sent it back to ricky. After the cover was off it was no wonder the seat did not work. What a POS. I than found out about Rocky Mayer his brother. Night and day different in the quality of seats. Had the Rocky seat on till I sold the 03. I have 200 miles on my new GT and will be seeing Rocky soon.
 

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Guys, I hear ya, and I cant take my medicine because TT is missing something...I am hoping that I can put the Bakup backrest on her and that will stabilize the rider seat so I can take my medicine...I have not been here much because it hurts to hear of the rides others are having...and as I posted back late nov, the seat was way comfortable, I rode 854 miles in one day with no pain...again, it is notthe seat that we agreed on...what is the point of getting a custom seat and not receiving what you ordered and paid for and asked for...and yes there are two sides to every story....I would love to hear Rick's side...I will take the time in the interest of fairness and post all the emails between Rick and myself if you would care to read them...I am not trying to start anything...just wanted to express my total and udder confustion of asking for a seat based on a low profile seat and not getting what I ordered...the lowe profile seat is perfect, i can reach the ground, I have good control with it, but it seems that I am asking too much...let me know ....ya know, screw this crap....yall love Rick, and I am very glad that you had a good experience...thanks....Mike

Mike you are fighting a losing battle here.... The Mayer click will defend him to the death..... :rolleyes: Never say your going to post an e-mail,, just post it.... The Mayer kids haven't made good seats in 20 years,,, you can do better by just looking in the yellow pages for a upholstery shop..They can do any thing these custom seat guys can do and you can stay right there with them while they knock it out....That is guaranteed satisfaction...........Pete
 

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petepeterson makes good since. Plus it is difficult to have a seat tailored to your fit over emails and phone calls. I bet a local custom upholstery shop or auto upholstery place could do a great job and do it to your specs. Probably wouldnt take long either. Good luck on everything and I hope it all turns out ok. Also in my opinion if you paid for something and didnt get what you paid for you should be pissed. Only after giving them a reasonable time to correct the problem.
 

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Never say your going to post an e-mail,, just post it....
I think you're giving poor advice considering the site guidelines. I can almost give you a 100% promise it will be deleted, it's been done before. JM2CW
 

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I am really not sure what your motivation was to post this rant on the site other then to attempt to defame a vendor. I have neither delt with Rick or have met him.

But, coming from someone that makes his living in the mail order business through the internet, and with much repeat business, it is impossible to please everyone.

All you can do is your best with the information that you have. But, when the climate turns to obscenities, defamation of charector and non-civil behavior, it is beyond the reach of a calm person to deal with. One can not resolve a situation with someone that will not deal respectfully and civily.

I am not questioning right or wrong, good or bad, he said / she said, or who has the most points.

But, if it is your goal to accomplish what you want, and have an issue resolved, you must be respectful. Any other alternative will not lead to a successful conclusion, damage or destroy your credibility. People also may not take you seriously..

My suggestion, is to try and get back with Rick and apologize for insulting him and attempt to get the situation rectified in a civil manner. Since this man has been in business for a long time, has a true following with his products, I believe it would be possible to reach him and start over.

Take it for what it is worth...

Good Luck
 

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Mike you are fighting a losing battle here.... The Mayer click will defend him to the death..... :rolleyes you can do better by just looking in the yellow pages for a upholstery shop..They can do any thing these custom seat guys can do and you can stay right there with them while they knock it out....That is guaranteed satisfaction...........Pete
These points I can agree with 100 %! Local shops can do the job given you find the right one.
 

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These points I can agree with 100 %! Local shops can do the job given you find the right one.
Interesting comment. I haven't found a local shop that will promise that my heated seat will work after they do any modifications to it.
 
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