Trailer question - BMW Luxury Touring Community
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 19 Old May 31st, 2012, 7:56 pm Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
dthogey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kalkaska, MI, USA
Posts: 1,149
Trailer question

Here is a pic of my new/used trailer. My question is this. How long should the tongue be?? All of the pics show tongues longer than this. Why is that? Does it matter.

This one is about 45" from axle to end of tongue.





David Hogerheide

2015 K1600GTL
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

2009 K1200LT (traded for GTL)
1984 Kawasaki Spectre: long gone
BMWMOA# 163123
BMWRA member
AMA member
Saddle sore 1000 Sept 2011
Bun Burner 1500 Sept 2011

CCR 2012 Duluth, MN
CCR 2014 Chattanooga, TN


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dthogey is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 19 Old May 31st, 2012, 8:13 pm Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
dthogey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kalkaska, MI, USA
Posts: 1,149
Re: Trailer question

I'll probably regret this question. What does a longer tongue do for you

Less tongue weight?

David Hogerheide

2015 K1600GTL
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

2009 K1200LT (traded for GTL)
1984 Kawasaki Spectre: long gone
BMWMOA# 163123
BMWRA member
AMA member
Saddle sore 1000 Sept 2011
Bun Burner 1500 Sept 2011

CCR 2012 Duluth, MN
CCR 2014 Chattanooga, TN


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dthogey is offline  
post #3 of 19 Old May 31st, 2012, 9:08 pm
Wrencher Extraordinaire
 
jzeiler's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hazel Green, AL, USA
Posts: 13,160
Re: Trailer question

Gets you lots of girlfriends...

Better stability. Easier backing, yes you will eventually have to back out of a parking spot.
That one just looks a little short. Would have to see how it pulls and backs.

Compare to the Bushtec.

I had extended the tounge on my old HF Sears/cartop trailer as well.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Bushtec8.jpg
Views:	434
Size:	177.3 KB
ID:	35395   Click image for larger version

Name:	Day11 007.jpg
Views:	191
Size:	224.0 KB
ID:	35396  

John
2009 K1300GT Red Rocket
2009 R1200GS (Gone)
2005 K1200LT Ocean Blue Blue Wizard 110 K and counting...
2006 Bushtec Turbo+2 Spell
2004 330 Ci Convertable
K4AN

Have ridden a Motorcycle in all 48
But lack DE, MA, RI and CT with the 2005 LT

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by jzeiler; May 31st, 2012 at 9:16 pm.
jzeiler is offline  
 
post #4 of 19 Old Jun 1st, 2012, 12:10 am
Senior Member
 
motorhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Old Hangtown, CA, USA
Posts: 2,406
Re: Trailer question

Pretty dang SHORT is my thought ......

Picture of what we pull and it does not wag or hunt what so ever.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Bike with trailer 002.jpg
Views:	1122
Size:	1.36 MB
ID:	35397  

"00" Canyon Red LTI ~ Well Farklized ~ Bug Splattered
Our "semi" quiet riot
*** Trailer Too ***

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
T
wisties Required
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

motorhead is offline  
post #5 of 19 Old Jun 1st, 2012, 8:50 am
Senior Member
 
SilverBuffalo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: St. Petersburg, FL, USA
Posts: 3,208
Re: Trailer question

Quote:
Originally Posted by dthogey
I'll probably regret this question. What does a longer tongue do for you
Dave, Dave, Dave.........

I really think you need to look for the answer to that question on a "different" forum.

Getting back to your trailer, longer wheelbase on any vehicle gives you more stability,
for instance Jeep versus pickup truck.

If you trailer "wags" that usually means you need more tongue weight,

with the trailer wheels that close behind you you're going to feel it more and the turning will be much "quicker"

Backing a trailer up with a motorcycle is already pretty tricky,
you're gonna have to be pretty damn good to back your rig up!

That is a nice looking trailer and the good news is it should not be to difficult to add a piece of square tubing to lengthen it,
then you'll also have a place to put a cooler (win/win)


Hans
St. Petersburg FL

2002 K1200LTE
"Silver Buffalo" Totaled 5/06
2005 LT
"Esperanza"
BushtecGenesisTrailer
"Our preferred long distance carrier"



SilverBuffalo is offline  
post #6 of 19 Old Jun 1st, 2012, 9:30 am Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
dthogey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kalkaska, MI, USA
Posts: 1,149
Re: Trailer question

Ok, it needs to be longer, how much, another couple feet?

David Hogerheide

2015 K1600GTL
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

2009 K1200LT (traded for GTL)
1984 Kawasaki Spectre: long gone
BMWMOA# 163123
BMWRA member
AMA member
Saddle sore 1000 Sept 2011
Bun Burner 1500 Sept 2011

CCR 2012 Duluth, MN
CCR 2014 Chattanooga, TN


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dthogey is offline  
post #7 of 19 Old Jun 1st, 2012, 9:55 am
Lifetime Supporter
 
DanMartin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Fulshear, TX, USA
Posts: 2,082
Re: Trailer question

Per another forum, axle to hitch should be twice the wheel to wheel width
Of trailer.
DanMartin is offline  
post #8 of 19 Old Jun 1st, 2012, 10:54 am
Senior Member
 
hschisler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Rushville, OH, USA
Posts: 7,768
Re: Trailer question

A big +1 on Hans' suggestion to add a cooler to the front of your trailer. We are just now discovering how nice it is to have easy/quick access to lots of cold beverages while on a trip. So, however you do it, see if you can't work this into your plans.

Howard Schisler
2015 BMW K1600GTL
2009 BMW K1200LT - 60k miles
2012 BMW F650GS (sold)
2005 BMW K1200LT - "Gray Ghost", traded at 120k miles
2005 Honda Shadow 650 (sold)
AMA, IBA, BMW MOA. CCRs: Braselton 2006, Osage Beach 2007, Duluth 2012


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
[/URL]
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
hschisler is offline  
post #9 of 19 Old Jun 1st, 2012, 11:59 am
Senior Member
 
RonKMiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Tucson, AZ, USA
Posts: 6,279
Re: Trailer question

Quote:
Originally Posted by DanMartin
Per another forum, axle to hitch should be twice the wheel to wheel width
Of trailer.
+1.

I think you'll find out that's waaaay too short when you heavily load the trailer - and are tooling down the interstate at 70 and the "tail starts wagging the dog". It's amplified by having to make a quick maneuver.

FWIW my trailer fully loaded is #300 max, I've found that the LT seems to be happy with that much weight, two up and with full panniers, top case, etc.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
"Like Butt-ahh!"
RonKMiller is offline  
post #10 of 19 Old Jun 18th, 2012, 6:38 pm Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
dthogey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kalkaska, MI, USA
Posts: 1,149
Re: Trailer question

Quote:
Originally Posted by dthogey
Here is a pic of my new/used trailer. My question is this. How long should the tongue be?? All of the pics show tongues longer than this. Why is that? Does it matter.

This one is about 45" from axle to end of tongue.








OK, I got the tongue lengthened and had a cooler rack added! Thanks again for the feedback guys!!



David Hogerheide

2015 K1600GTL
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

2009 K1200LT (traded for GTL)
1984 Kawasaki Spectre: long gone
BMWMOA# 163123
BMWRA member
AMA member
Saddle sore 1000 Sept 2011
Bun Burner 1500 Sept 2011

CCR 2012 Duluth, MN
CCR 2014 Chattanooga, TN


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dthogey is offline  
post #11 of 19 Old Jun 18th, 2012, 8:07 pm
Senior Member
 
hschisler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Rushville, OH, USA
Posts: 7,768
Re: Trailer question

Excellent. I think you'll like the way the longer tongue handles/performs, and I KNOW you'll like the ability to take a cooler on any trip.

Howard Schisler
2015 BMW K1600GTL
2009 BMW K1200LT - 60k miles
2012 BMW F650GS (sold)
2005 BMW K1200LT - "Gray Ghost", traded at 120k miles
2005 Honda Shadow 650 (sold)
AMA, IBA, BMW MOA. CCRs: Braselton 2006, Osage Beach 2007, Duluth 2012


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
[/URL]
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
hschisler is offline  
post #12 of 19 Old Jun 19th, 2012, 1:48 pm
Senior Member
 
LTFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Sacramento, CA, USA
Posts: 253
Re: Trailer question

I use a unigo trailer and the tounge is not very long. It hides very well behind the bike to be almost invisible while riding. It does attach to the bike in a different way. It doesnt use a ball to rest on instead uses a joint with a lock. The second image at http://reddogscooter.blogspot.com/20...ch-update.html

Its also a single wheel trailer so the dynamics are different.

1996 Kinetic Pride 75cc - First motorized cycle at age 16.
2002 Yamaha Enticer 125cc - First brand new cycle bought from the first salary at age 20.
1984 Honda Shadow 1100cc
1999 BMW K1200LT
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
LTFan is offline  
post #13 of 19 Old Jul 31st, 2012, 9:27 pm Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
dthogey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kalkaska, MI, USA
Posts: 1,149
Re: Trailer question

Quote:
Originally Posted by dthogey
OK, I got the tongue lengthened and had a cooler rack added! Thanks again for the feedback guys!!





Another question. What would you guys recommend for a rack on top of my trailer lid??

Something on both sides of the diamond plate top.

Something I could strap camp chairs or something like that to.

David Hogerheide

2015 K1600GTL
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

2009 K1200LT (traded for GTL)
1984 Kawasaki Spectre: long gone
BMWMOA# 163123
BMWRA member
AMA member
Saddle sore 1000 Sept 2011
Bun Burner 1500 Sept 2011

CCR 2012 Duluth, MN
CCR 2014 Chattanooga, TN


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dthogey is offline  
post #14 of 19 Old Aug 1st, 2012, 7:37 pm
Senior Member
 
motorhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Old Hangtown, CA, USA
Posts: 2,406
Re: Trailer question

Quote:
Originally Posted by dthogey
Another question. What would you guys recommend for a rack on top of my trailer lid??

Something on both sides of the diamond plate top.

Something I could strap camp chairs or something like that to.
I simply went to an RV salvage getting 4 tall Aluminum roof rack brackets.
Then over to the Aluminum store getting a 10' stick of 3/4" thin wall tubing.
Hardware store for 4 3/4" copper 90* double female elbows.

Assembled onto roof of the trailer ... Has worked out GREAT !!

"00" Canyon Red LTI ~ Well Farklized ~ Bug Splattered
Our "semi" quiet riot
*** Trailer Too ***

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
T
wisties Required
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

motorhead is offline  
post #15 of 19 Old Sep 3rd, 2012, 5:59 am
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: brushton, ny, usa
Posts: 46
Re: Trailer question

I have a swivel on mine and you hardly now it is behind me dosent that strate hitch
limet your lean

Jim
brushton ny
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMGP3473.JPG
Views:	125
Size:	350.7 KB
ID:	36358   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMGP3472.JPG
Views:	156
Size:	206.5 KB
ID:	36359   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMGP3477.JPG
Views:	131
Size:	174.7 KB
ID:	36360  
jb1957 is offline  
post #16 of 19 Old Sep 3rd, 2012, 7:24 am Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
dthogey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kalkaska, MI, USA
Posts: 1,149
Re: Trailer question

Quote:
Originally Posted by jb1957
I have a swivel on mine and you hardly now it is behind me dosent that strate hitch
limet your lean

Jim
brushton ny


The hitch doesn't limit the lean at all. I thought the swivel was protection against tipping the bike over. I would love to add the swivel hitch at some point in the future.

David Hogerheide

2015 K1600GTL
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

2009 K1200LT (traded for GTL)
1984 Kawasaki Spectre: long gone
BMWMOA# 163123
BMWRA member
AMA member
Saddle sore 1000 Sept 2011
Bun Burner 1500 Sept 2011

CCR 2012 Duluth, MN
CCR 2014 Chattanooga, TN


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dthogey is offline  
post #17 of 19 Old Sep 3rd, 2012, 10:32 am
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: brushton, ny, usa
Posts: 46
Re: Trailer question

I have not towed a motorcycle trailer with a straight hitch but when I was building this just the ball coulper on the ball seemed limited so I made the swivel now I am building a teardrop camper for the bike I dont like tents an I think I will use a heim joint this time and see how it works it will be a lot lighter

Jim
brushton ny
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMGP3484.JPG
Views:	131
Size:	334.5 KB
ID:	36370   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMGP3485.JPG
Views:	142
Size:	358.2 KB
ID:	36371  
jb1957 is offline  
post #18 of 19 Old Sep 3rd, 2012, 8:44 pm
cws
Senior Member
 
cws's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 3,179
Garage
Re: Trailer question

Quote:
Originally Posted by dthogey
The hitch doesn't limit the lean at all. I thought the swivel was protection against tipping the bike over. I would love to add the swivel hitch at some point in the future.
Swivel certainly helps to minimise the risk of tipping, but there are some circumstances (that can happen very quickly) where just having the trailer attached can cause a tip, regardless of the setup.
This is the result of a sudden fishtail in a soft-spot on a dirt track. The sideways whipping of the trailer when the rear wheel broke loose trying to power the front wheel out of a dirt filled hole flipped the bike & trailer at the same time. The trailer was fitted with a 360 deg rotating hitch and active brake system.

Chris
Sydney, NSW
2005 Dark Graphite Metallic K1200LT
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

2005 Orient Blue Metallic K1200GT SE
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
(sold 2019)
2000 Red Honda CB250 (the toy)
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Ulysses #45310
GS911


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

cws is offline  
post #19 of 19 Old Sep 3rd, 2012, 9:04 pm Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
dthogey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kalkaska, MI, USA
Posts: 1,149
Re: Trailer question

Quote:
Originally Posted by cws
Swivel certainly helps to minimise the risk of tipping, but there are some circumstances (that can happen very quickly) where just having the trailer attached can cause a tip, regardless of the setup.
This is the result of a sudden fishtail in a soft-spot on a dirt track. The sideways whipping of the trailer when the rear wheel broke loose trying to power the front wheel out of a dirt filled hole flipped the bike & trailer at the same time. The trailer was fitted with a 360 deg rotating hitch and active brake system.

Bummer, hopefully no dirt roads for me

David Hogerheide

2015 K1600GTL
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

2009 K1200LT (traded for GTL)
1984 Kawasaki Spectre: long gone
BMWMOA# 163123
BMWRA member
AMA member
Saddle sore 1000 Sept 2011
Bun Burner 1500 Sept 2011

CCR 2012 Duluth, MN
CCR 2014 Chattanooga, TN


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dthogey is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the BMW Luxury Touring Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
LT on a trailer Hackercraft792 K1200LT 14 Sep 4th, 2012 3:24 pm
Enclosed trailer question?????? motorman587 Chit Chat 2 Apr 20th, 2008 7:03 pm
Weight Distribution / Trailer towing cruisin92 K1200LT 14 Apr 2nd, 2008 10:03 am
CCR Express III - time to set up trailer RaffyK Northern California 8 Aug 5th, 2007 10:19 am

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome