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post #1 of 11 Old Feb 21st, 2010, 9:36 pm Thread Starter
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Pulling a camp trailer

Hi everyone, I've been pulling a trailer for 5 years with my LT. Its a 12 cubit ft with a cooler, we have started camping with it about 3 years ago. Had to put a rack on top hold everything she needs to go camping. Last year at Americade we looked at camping trailers, fell in love with the Time Out camper. Friday night I talked to Fred Burger near Fishkill, NY, the dealer for Time Out. We made a deal on an 09 with everything I wanted on it. I told him I wanted brakes on the trailer since it will weigh in at about 400 lbs loaded. He says in 10 years he has never put brakes on a trailer. I'm thinking i dont want that trailer pushing me around with no way to control it. Anyone on the board have experience with the bigger trailers??? Chuck
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post #2 of 11 Old Feb 22nd, 2010, 4:20 am
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Chuck,

You didn't mention what year model your LT is, but it only makes a slight difference. I had a 2000LTC without the assisted brakes and now have a 2003LTE with assisted brakes....both worked fine. The assisted brakes do a better job and require a little less pre planning your stops.

I am pulling a Bunkhouse and have had no problems. That said, use caution in mountainous areas as you would pulling with any vehicle.

Follow the manufacturer's loading recommendations to be sure you have proper tongue weight. You will find a lot of info on hitches using the search function. I have used the Bushtec hitch and the Dauntless hitch...I prefer the Dauntless after having 2 rear flats on the road .(much easier to remove the rear wheel).

Hope that helps,

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Re: Pulling a camp trailer

Thanks Ron, I have a 05 with 55000 miles. Bunkhouse makes nice camper, but I thought it was kind of heavy for the LT plus wifey likes the idea of everything being off the ground. You didn't say if you had brakes on the Bunkhouse. I know they are suppose to have some of the finest brakes around for small trailers. Chuck
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Chuck,

Mine is a 1995 model and they didn't come with brake options back then...I forgot that they offered those now. A wild guess on the loaded weight after the wife finishes loading mine would be about 450 lbs.

I can't believe it is already 15 years old. Originally I pulled it with a GL1500 and the brakes on that were just barely suitable.

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For what it's worth, I pulled a Kwik Kamp, fully loaded riding 2 up, from Florida to Redmond Oregon and back in 2000 with my '99 LT. No idea what it weighed but I believe it was probably well over 500# especially on the way home. Lots of souvenirs don't ya know. Did a couple of days on interstates but mostly back roads and state highways. Went up and down all them big mountains, including Donner Pass, out west. No brakes on that trailer. The LT handled towing that rig just fine. As was stated earlier in this thread you must always be aware that the extra weight is back there, mostly starting and stopping. The biggest asset of the LT when towing a heavy trailer is the ABS, especially on steep down hill stops. I owned that camper for roughly 7 years and probably accumulated 25000 miles on it split between my '90 GW and the '99 LT. Both bikes handled the weight easily and never had any problems including the venerable LT rear drive. Sold the GW with 130,000 miles and the LT with 97,000 miles, both still running great.

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I have pulled my time out, with out brakes on it, with my 82 goldwing. The brakes on that were more than enough to stop the 500lb beast plenty fast. The assisted brakes on my 03 LT are better yet. If you want brakes on the trailer, get them. Do not let anybody talk you out of getting what you feel comfortable with. If we start adding more stuff to the top carrier, I may put brakes on our trailer.

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I have a 2000 LTC and pull a Trailmaster Classic with electric brakes. The controller is under the seat and it is adjustable. As for what the brakes can do for you, you can stop a lot faster when you get it setup right. Sure the LT will stop the entire load, but it will stop faster when two more wheels are braking also.

Now why did I get brakes on it, because I still go by that saying, "ride as if everyone else on the road was out to get you."

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My wife and I purchased our '01 LT in 2002 specifically to be the prime mover for an Aspen Classic. I had the electric brake option added to the trailer, but did not get around to wiring in a controller that year. In October '03 we headed to the CMA Colors Rally in Arkansas from our home in Illinois. I stopped at a truck stop in Litchfield, IL, to top off the fuel before hitting the Big Road, and, for grins, pulled across the CAT truck scales, just to see what the rig weighed all loaded with camping equipment, full fuel, and us--ATTGATT. I neglected to split the axles, unfortunately (I'm too cheap to pay for two scale tickets!), so I don't know what the loaded trailer weighed.

However, I was shocked to find that our total weight was 2,100 lbs. I added the controller on our return home. I think it was a real plus, when we trailered out to CCR in Breckenridge the following year. I enjoy the peace of mind the trailer brakes provide.

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My wife and I purchased our '01 LT in 2002 specifically to be the prime mover for an Aspen Classic. I had the electric brake option added to the trailer, but did not get around to wiring in a controller that year. In October '03 we headed to the CMA Colors Rally in Arkansas from our home in Illinois. I stopped at a truck stop in Litchfield, IL, to top off the fuel before hitting the Big Road, and, for grins, pulled across the CAT truck scales, just to see what the rig weighed all loaded with camping equipment, full fuel, and us--ATTGATT. I neglected to split the axles, unfortunately (I'm too cheap to pay for two scale tickets!), so I don't know what the loaded trailer weighed.

However, I was shocked to find that our total weight was 2,100 lbs. I added the controller on our return home. I think it was a real plus, when we trailered out to CCR in Breckenridge the following year. I enjoy the peace of mind the trailer brakes provide.
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Well, On 4-3-10, My brother and I rode our bikes to Ulster, NY and picked up the Timeout Camper. We stayed there for 2 and a half hours wiring the camper to my bike and talking to Fred. He set the camper up for me and took it down..... very neat. We left and headed home on the Thruway, I played with the brake controller until i got the brakes on the camper where I wanted them. No, I did not crash and burned like some said i would. The brakes really work like brakes are suppose to work. I shut the controller off and tried just the bike brakes and they would stop the rig too, but I felt safer using all the brakes. Got home about 8 at night and pulled the bike and camper into the garage. Wifey came out, looked at it and wanted to set the camper up. So I unhooked and set it up in the garage. With both of us setting it up, it only took 10 minutes. Not bad for our first time. My other brother came over and checked it out, wanted to see what it looked like all set for traveling. So..... We took it back down and it only took 10 minutes. The next day, Easter Sunday, we took the bike and camper to Vermont to the kids house and set it up for them. The grandkids loved it, thought it was their new playhouse. All in all, We are very pleased with it. Chuck

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