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Paint cargo carrier( what type of paint?)

Hi all;

I purchased a used cargo carrier ( Sears X-Cargo) and have heard that they are hard to paint. I have a few spray cans ( for plastic) and was wondering if the paint will stick. I heard that it takes some special cleaner and paint to get this to stick!! I sprayed a small area, and it seems to stick once dry.

I want to hear from the guys that have painted theirs and what type of prep and paint used.

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I had some left over silver wheel paint from my MG days. All I did was wipe it down with a rag soaked in acetone. That roughed and cleaned the surface and the paint has held just fine after 6,000 miles of towing in rain and shine.

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Check out this coverage pdf..

http://www.rustoleum.com/cbgimages/d...RefGuide08.pdf
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I scuffed mine with steel wool, then scrubbed it with Dawn dish washing soap and water. Then a quick wipe down with Acetone like John. Worked great.

I used Rustoleum plastic paint, Krylon is excellent too but for me it dries too fast when covering a large area.
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I scuffed mine with steel wool, then scrubbed it with Dawn dish washing soap and water. Then a quick wipe down with Acetone like John. Worked great.

I used Rustoleum plastic paint, Krylon is excellent too but for me it dries too fast when covering a large area.
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Nice looking trailer!!! Mine won't be that fancy!!
I noticed that you only have two lights at the rear, how did you hook this to a 5 wire system on the LT? I am putting an extra set of lights for the brake lights to make it a 5 wire system. ( seems like this is the way most people have it done).

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....how did you hook this to a 5 wire system on the LT? I am putting an extra set of lights for the brake lights to make it a 5 wire system. ( seems like this is the way most people have it done).
I'll assume Ron used a converter like this.

Either way, you might want to re-think putting independant/separate turn signals on your trailer. Especially if you ever intend to pull that trailer with a vehicle that does NOT have separate brake/turn signals. Reason being, if you use separate turn signals, yet the tow vehicle doesn't have separate turn signals, the only way you'll be able to make it work properly is to run a separate wire from your brake light switch (on your car/cage). And in doing so, then the trailer is a bit customized the tow vehicle. Which, depending on how you look at it, might not necessaruily be a bad thing as this would prevent your buddy from be able to borrow it and pull it with his car/cage.

It is for this reason that most trailers manufacturers here in the US do NOT install separate brake and turn lights. I say most, because of course, there are exceptions to this rule...like trailers that are specific to the tow vehicle (like motorcycle trailers). Just wanted to make sure you're aware of this...in case you think you might ever pull this trailer with something other than your bike.

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I'll assume Ron used a converter like this.

Either way, you might want to re-think putting independant/separate turn signals on your trailer. Especially if you ever intend to pull that trailer with a vehicle that does NOT have separate brake/turn signals. Reason being, if you use separate turn signals, yet the tow vehicle doesn't have separate turn signals, the only way you'll be able to make it work properly is to run a separate wire from your brake light switch (on your car/cage). And in doing so, then the trailer is a bit customized the tow vehicle. Which, depending on how you look at it, might not necessaruily be a bad thing as this would prevent your buddy from be able to borrow it and pull it with his car/cage.

It is for this reason that most trailers manufacturers here in the US do NOT install separate brake and turn lights. I say most, because of course, there are exceptions to this rule...like trailers that are specific to the tow vehicle (like motorcycle trailers). Just wanted to make sure you're aware of this...in case you think you might ever pull this trailer with something other than your bike.

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Toolman;
Where the 5 wire plug ( on the trailer) there will also be a 4 wire connector ( not wired to the seperate brake lights) so anyone with a 4 wire connector can use the trailer. I think this will work.
I would rather have a 5 wire system ( I never thought about others!!!)
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Where the 5 wire plug ( on the trailer) there will also be a 4 wire connector ( not wired to the seperate brake lights) so anyone with a 4 wire connector can use the trailer. I think this will work.
I would rather have a 5 wire system ( I never thought about others!!!)
Good luck. With that setup, you're either going to have turn signals that when activated, will blink both turn signal lights simultaneously, or if you wire it such that you have separate turn signals, then you won't have brake lights. Bottom line is, there's not much reason to put separate turn signals and braks lights on a trailer....unless of course...and as I stated above, you'll only pull it with a vehicle that also has separate turn signals and brake lights....in which case you'll be just fine.

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I'll assume Ron used a converter like this.

Either way, you might want to re-think putting independant/separate turn signals on your trailer. Especially if you ever intend to pull that trailer with a vehicle that does NOT have separate brake/turn signals. Reason being, if you use separate turn signals, yet the tow vehicle doesn't have separate turn signals, the only way you'll be able to make it work properly is to run a separate wire from your brake light switch (on your car/cage). And in doing so, then the trailer is a bit customized the tow vehicle. Which, depending on how you look at it, might not necessaruily be a bad thing as this would prevent your buddy from be able to borrow it and pull it with his car/cage.

It is for this reason that most trailers manufacturers here in the US do NOT install separate brake and turn lights. I say most, because of course, there are exceptions to this rule...like trailers that are specific to the tow vehicle (like motorcycle trailers). Just wanted to make sure you're aware of this...in case you think you might ever pull this trailer with something other than your bike.

Cheers,
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Yep, that's the only way it can be done that I know of. I can't remember what brand mine was but I know a popular brand is "Hoppy".


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Ron Miller;

Nice looking trailer!!! Mine won't be that fancy!!
I noticed that you only have two lights at the rear, how did you hook this to a 5 wire system on the LT? I am putting an extra set of lights for the brake lights to make it a 5 wire system. ( seems like this is the way most people have it done).

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I've got a "bunch o' lights" back there:

2 led amber marker lights up front on the sides.

2 red amber marker lights on the rear sides.

2 incandescent license plate lights on each side of the plate.

2 combination brake/stop/turn leds on the rear.

3 incandescent bulbs in the light bar strip on the bottom.

Oh yeah - the stop lights on the trailer flash rapidly when the brakes are applied at the same rate as the led bar on the luggage rack.

Damned if I can remember how I did it - but it works!


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Good luck. With that setup, you're either going to have turn signals that when activated, will blink both turn signal lights simultaneously, or if you wire it such that you have separate turn signals, then you won't have brake lights. Bottom line is, there's not much reason to put separate turn signals and braks lights on a trailer....unless of course...and as I stated above, you'll only pull it with a vehicle that also has separate turn signals and brake lights....in which case you'll be just fine.
Toolman;

I keep reading ( on this site and the trailer site) that because the LT is a 5 wire system you have to use a 5 wire system with an extra wire for the brake lights!!

There is a lot of conflicting info about wiring the LT and a trailer!!! Some use a hoppy 5 to 4 and other say to use 5 to 5 with an extra set of lights for the brakes lights!!!

Here is what I think I will do to finish the trailer today!!!( and bike when I get the 4 isolator relay kit from Dauntless):

Wire the bike for 5 wires ( dauntless wiring kit with relays), wire the trailer with 4 wires ( so I can also tow with my truck) and then make a separate wiring cable with as 5 plug ( bike hitch end) through a hoppy 5 to 4 converter with a 4 plug on the end to hook to the trailer plug when I use the bike!! It sounds like the right way to go!!!

Still confused about wiring this trailer and bike!!! I can build a complete processing factory with all the equipment required, but CAN'T wire a small trailer and bike!!!!

Not my forte!!!
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You're in the process of making a trailer and figuring out what lights to install on that trailer. The purpose of my post was to warn you about installing separate (independently functional) turn signals and brake lights on that trailer, if you ever intend to pull that trailer with a vehicle OTHER THAN the LT. Simple as that, period...full stop.

I never said, nor intended to imply that a trailer with separate turn signals/brake lights won't work with the LT, because it will [work]. The LT has separate turn signals and brake lights, so there's no problem there. However, if you do put separate turn signals/brake lights on that trailer you're building, and then decide to pull it with a vehicle that does not have separate turn signals/brake lights, there will be an issue. That's all....

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You're in the process of making a trailer and figuring out what lights to install on that trailer. The purpose of my post was to warn you about installing separate (independently functional) turn signals and brake lights on that trailer, if you ever intend to pull that trailer with a vehicle OTHER THAN the LT. Simple as that, period...full stop.

I never said, nor intended to imply that a trailer with separate turn signals/brake lights won't work with the LT, because it will [work]. The LT has separate turn signals and brake lights, so there's no problem there. However, if you do put separate turn signals/brake lights on that trailer you're building, and then decide to pull it with a vehicle that does not have separate turn signals/brake lights, there will be an issue. That's all....

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Toolman;

I understood your email, and decided to hook-up the trailer as a standard 4 wire system. I will wire the LT for a 5 wire system when I get the relay isolator kit from Dauntless. I will then make a separate cable with a 5 pin connection from the bike hitch to a converter ( 5 to 4) which will have a 4 pin connector to hook to the trailer. This way if I am using the bike I use the cable, and if I use the truck, I don't use the cable. I think this is best and as you said, anyone can tow the trailer ( bike, car or truck!!)
I was just thinking out loud on the extra lights for the brake lights!!!

Thanks for the info.

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I scuffed mine with steel wool, then scrubbed it with Dawn dish washing soap and water. Then a quick wipe down with Acetone like John. Worked great.

I used Rustoleum plastic paint, Krylon is excellent too but for me it dries too fast when covering a large area.
Oh my goodness...this thread is 9 years old so hope someone is paying attention! I like how you repurposed the cargo carrier. I also have one that I'd like to repurpose but kinda need to figure out what a good chassis would be to attach it to. Don't want to spend $5000 and don't necessarily want to spend $150 at Harbor Freight.
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