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post #1 of 80 Old Mar 25th, 2014, 12:31 pm Thread Starter
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2014 RT Topcase

Hey guys,

I'm not sure if I am allowed to post this or not, but feel free to trash it if I am breaking the rules here.

I found a BMW dealer in Ohio selling the fully featured 2014 topcase for an extremely good price rather than the insane list price. If you are looking for one, PM me and I will point you in the right direction. I asked if he would continue to sell them at this price and he said the more the merrier. I have no connection to this dealer, I just got such a good deal I couldn't help but want to share it with the rest of you who may be looking for one.

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Less expensive and lighter.


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Re: 2014 RT Topcase

I am still trying to tread lightly here, being a touch new. Let me just say, a fully featured 14 topcase my local dealer wants $1600 + tax for, got it shipped to my door for $1150 from this other dealer.

This is still a premium over the prior version of course, but a much more manageable step up for those of us looking to get the box with central locking.


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Are you sure it's the full featured $1,550 case and not the light version that's $1,285? There are two versions of the large top case. Either way it's a good deal, but even better if it's the more expensive one.

I just looked at the big one at my dealer and it is sooooo heavy.
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Are you sure it's the full featured $1,550 case and not the light version that's $1,285? There are two versions of the large top case. Either way it's a good deal, but even better if it's the more expensive one.

I just looked at the big one at my dealer and it is sooooo heavy.
Yes, the fully featured. The basic one is available too, and is much less.

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Ok, I'll bite...what are the differences between the "light version" and the "full version"?


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-Two alternatives:
- Fully equipped (only in combination with factory optional 0417, central locking): Includes electrics connection, central locking, interior lighting, topcase bottom carpeted (like the K1600GT topcase)
- Basic: Less equipment (without electrics, central locking, interior lighting, carpet)
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Less expensive and lighter.

And best of all, incompatible with your central locking system.

That may not be important to you, which is great, but it was to me, which is why I started the thread. I just don't want anyone looking for this box to go give a dealer 1600 bucks.

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Whew! (heavy sigh of relief) I just got my topcase yesterday for 1199 fun tickets. Included dome light, carpet, central locking, and electrics for add-on brake light. It also included the lock cylinder and rekeying kit. Rekeying wasn't as hard as I thought it might be. Thank heaven for YouTube. Rock on, Garth!


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Whew! (heavy sigh of relief) I just got my topcase yesterday for 1199 fun tickets. Included dome light, carpet, central locking, and electrics for add-on brake light. It also included the lock cylinder and rekeying kit. Rekeying wasn't as hard as I thought it might be. Thank heaven for YouTube. Rock on, Garth!
Titan, this one also includes the lock cylinder. Is this something I can do myself? I was under the impression the dealer would have to do it. If you have the info, please share, thanks!
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Titan, this one also includes the lock cylinder. Is this something I can do myself? I was under the impression the dealer would have to do it. If you have the info, please share, thanks!
nb, there are a few vids on youtube, but the link below was the best for me. It's not rocket surgery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUIH0kuC4FE


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Thank you sir.

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That first video is great for pinning out the lock. The end of this video shows you how to insert the cylinder.

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That first video is great for pinning out the lock. The end of this video shows you how to insert the cylinder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mygeTPWUhqY
Excellent, I think I can handle that. The less the dealer touches stuff the better I have found..
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After holding the fully featured one today at the dealer and feeling how heavy it was, I think I may follow Mr. Dean down the path of the old top case. I take mine on and off a lot and that wiring harness doesn't look too conducive to that.

Too bad I'm such a nice guy and decided to throw my '13 top case in with the sale of my bike.
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Too bad I'm such a nice guy and decided to throw my '13 top case in with the sale of my bike.
Oh crap, I'm feeling bad Arch.

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Oh crap, I'm feeling bad Arch.

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No, no! What's done is done. I like good karma when I sell a bike.

BTW, I'm starting with the small top case first to see if that suits my needs. May not even buy a big one.
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I am waiting for my ebony 14.... Mid April

On short trips I would like to pretend that the rt is sporty and take off the panniers and top case.

Is it a mistake to buy the top case with extra brake light, when removed often?

If so, what top box is easily removable without wiring harness issues?

I am a new-bee and forgive my ignorance.
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I am waiting for my ebony 14.... Mid April

Is it a mistake to buy the top case with extra brake light, when removed often?

If so, what top box is easily removable without wiring harness issues?
The earlier top case for the pre-'14 RT fits the '14 just fine and costs a lot less at $832 MSRP.

It is easy on and off using your ignition keys. No wires.



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Bruce, there is also a 2014 version of the top case that is without wires, the basic version without electronics etc. It is 900-ish, so either option would work if you don't want to mess with the plug.
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The earlier top case for the pre-'04 RT fits the '04 just fine and costs a lot less at $832 MSRP.

It is easy on and off using your ignition keys. No wires.




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I just want to clarify...I would need a pre-2004 case in order to use it on the 2014, and the one I have on my 2010 would not work. Sorry for the confusion.


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I just want to clarify...I would need a pre-2004 case in order to use it on the 2014, and the one I have on my 2010 would not work. Sorry for the confusion.


Jeff means pre-14, but tends to type pre-04 quite a bit instead, LOL.

Your 2010 will work fine.
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It is easy on and off using your ignition keys. No wires.
I was referring to the new fully featured one for the '14, not the older case. The new one (fully featured) has a wiring harness that plugs in and needs to be unplugged to get the case off.
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There seems to be lots of confusion in this thread. Let me try to sum it up in one post.

If you have a 2014 RT and are looking for a 49 liter top case, here are your options from BMW (OEM). There are plenty of aftermarket options, but these are the OEM options for a 49L topcase.

Pre-2014 topcase: No wire. $832
2014 topcase basic: No wire. $900-ish
2014 topcase fully-equipped: Wired. $1150

Any of these will fit fine. It is personal preference/intended use/finances that will decide which one you need. Did I miss anything?

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Summary:

For ease of removal, avoid the electrical harness, lights, plugs, etc? Correct?
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I think the MSRP on the wired '14 top case is $1,600 and the MSRP on the unwired '14 top case is $1,500.

At least that is what BMW NA reps told me at the Phoenix IMS show.

The earlier ones MSRP at $832.

Apparently some dealers are offering major discounts on the '14 top cases because the MSRPs are insane. So that is good for customers.

I like older ones better in any case at they are simpler and lighter.

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For ease of removal, avoid the electrical harness, lights, plugs, etc? Correct?
Right on, if ease of removal is what you want, pick one of the two no wire options.

I should probably add, when we say wired, we mean a plug in that requires removing the pillion seat to plug in or unplug. Not actually hard wired into the bike etc. Just to be super clear. But it is probably not something you'll want to do if you take it on an off a lot IMO.

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Price: $1,283.00


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This handsome 49-liter top case is designed specifically for your 2014-later BMW R1200RT Motorcycle. Large enough to contain 2 full-face helmets.
BIG! - 49-Liter size allows you to stow two helmets.
Easy on and off - secures to the standard luggage carrier - no additional hardware required.
Double shell construction with lid gaskets and four point latch system - Waterproof.
Lid is painted in matte white aluminum metallic to complement any color bike.
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Two gas-filled struts assist in opening the lid.
Weight: Approx. 22 lbs.
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If I use a second hand, perfectly serviceable Givi that I have on my current bike, will I be thrown out of the BMW club?



1200 bucks for a topcase is truly insane...

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Troppo, you and I could be in trouble. I kept my Givi 55 liter case with brake lights from my R1150RT to mount on my soon I hope to arrive 1200. No wires to disconnect when the top case is removed. Case weighs just under 11 pds and can hold 22 pds. Adapter plate is under 100 and the current cost of the case with lights is about 400. lots cheaper than any BMW case. Mine has never leaked water. I do like the look of the Beemer case and believe it is a nice case but I all ready had this and it works well.
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I have the full featured top box and also bought the LED brake light kit. I wanted to be more visible while braking to the people behind me and I think it definitely does that. I've removed the case numerous times and I can do it pretty quickly (without tools) but don't think that while traveling that I will remove it each night - I don't see any need to. I'm really happy with the interior light, central locking and the additional brake light. It was definitely worth it to me. I had a coupon for a 20% discount that I got from the show in DC - so list minus 20%.
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I am adding skene led on the rear for visibility, in lieu of the top box lights.

Any thoughts?
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I have the full featured top box and also bought the LED brake light kit. I wanted to be more visible while braking to the people behind me and I think it definitely does that. I've removed the case numerous times and I can do it pretty quickly (without tools) but don't think that while traveling that I will remove it each night - I don't see any need to. I'm really happy with the interior light, central locking and the additional brake light. It was definitely worth it to me. I had a coupon for a 20% discount that I got from the show in DC - so list minus 20%.
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The top case hangs over the the normal rear brake light a good bit, cutting off visibility from higher angles. This is why I want the LED tail at the top of the box (eye level) and will deal with the wire. I don't take it on/off that much anyway.

The interior light and central locking are convenience features but the tail light was a must for me, YMMV.
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The top case hangs over the the normal rear brake light a good bit, cutting off visibility from higher angles. This is why I want the LED tail at the top of the box (eye level) and will deal with the wire. I don't take it on/off that much anyway.

The interior light and central locking are convenience features but the tail light was a must for me, YMMV.
Adding photo for reference, the LED brake light looks pretty large.
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Where did you get the LED break light?
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The brake light is an optional accessory that works with the wired Topcase.

From Sierra BMW Online http://www.sierrabmwonline.com/produ...8520044-p-2694

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BMW K1600GTL|K1600GT|R1200RT WC (14-) Topcase LED Brake Light
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Extra safety with additional brake light for enhanced visibility.

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-Suitable for accessory top case of K1600GT.

MSRP $237.95.
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Troppo, you and I could be in trouble. I kept my Givi 55 liter case with brake lights from my R1150RT to mount on my soon I hope to arrive 1200. No wires to disconnect when the top case is removed. Case weighs just under 11 pds and can hold 22 pds. Adapter plate is under 100 and the current cost of the case with lights is about 400. lots cheaper than any BMW case. Mine has never leaked water. I do like the look of the Beemer case and believe it is a nice case but I all ready had this and it works well.
Hi from a new member and a new to BMW owner. I bought a Givi E193 adapter and I don't think it fits the '14 R1200RT. I'm hoping I'm doing something wrong. Has anyone actually fitted the adapter to their 2014? If it won't work I need to order a BMW case asap.

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It will work. I have attached the 193 plate on the R1200rt lc. You will need to replace two of the screws that are 45mm in length with 50mm. Do not use 60mm as they will touch the bike as they are two long. The two screws that are closest to the seat are the ones that need to be replaced. One needs to be very careful to make sure the plates your attaching are level with the base of the bike. I was able to get the longer screws at Ace. It will be very secure. I use the 55 Givi case with no problem. The nice thing with the Givi is the electrical hook up. No wire to disconnect when taking the case off the bike. have extra brake lights with the Givi, they are not as bright as the bike's brakes but up quite high. I hope this helps.

If it excites you and scares the crap out of you at the same time, it probably means you should do it.
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Thanks. I tried again but lost patience. I just spoke with the Ohio dealer Jon mentioned and ordered the full feature top case and a brake light. Anyone want a Givi adapter ; )
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Re: 2014 RT Topcase wiring harness

I know that it isn't a big deal for some and the new paint on yours looks great Jeff but when I see a 14RT with the old model Top Case it looks like a 14RT with the old model Top Case.[/QUOTE]

That is what it is. Forgive me if it offends you, but I think that your observation is absolutely silly.

To you, my bike must look even worse when I ride an R60/2 or R67/3.

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No offence taken Jeff and none intended, they're just observations.
I'm not sure what your second point means though unless you put your old top case on those bikes too in which case, yes.

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I couldn't disagree more. A top case is a necessary accessory for most of us, and none of them (colour matched or not) really compliment any bike.
So it the box is a '14, or an 08 or even a GIVI, so long as it is mounted well will look just as good (or bad). The idea of an 08 looking bad sounds like a form of snobbery. Just remember that next year will be '15, so the bike will will look so last year then!
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I know that it isn't a big deal for some and the new paint on yours looks great Jeff but when I see a 14RT with the old model Top Case it looks like a 14RT with the old model Top Case.

I think your case looks absolutely fine, Jeff. I like the color, too.
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I went with the small top case and I think it looks great on the bike. Much prefer it to the larger top cases.
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I think your case looks absolutely fine, Jeff. I like the color, too.
I like it as well, but was wondering about the paint job. Did you get this done, or do it yourself? Did you use the paint code for the bike to match this?


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I like it as well, but was wondering about the paint job. Did you get this done, or do it yourself? Did you use the paint code for the bike to match this?
I had a local motorcycle painter do it. He is amazing. He looked at the bike, whipped up some options and picked one. His vision is incredible and he has a real talent for matching paint.

In addition to being heavier and over priced, I think the '14 top cases are not as attractive as the earlier ones. But each to his own.

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I am still trying to tread lightly here, being a touch new. Let me just say, a fully featured 14 topcase my local dealer wants $1600 + tax for, got it shipped to my door for $1150 from this other dealer.

This is still a premium over the prior version of course, but a much more manageable step up for those of us looking to get the box with central locking.


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I have the "fully featured" case on my '14 RTW. I was removing the trim pieces, to have the case painted to match the bike, and I found an electrical connector when I removed the back rest pad. What on earth is that for? A vibrator? A heated back rest pad?
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I went with the small top case and I think it looks great on the bike. Much prefer it to the larger top cases.
ArchimedesRT and TitanRanger, excellent paint job on the top.cases!! How did you go about doing it yourself? Are you both professional painters? If not, any detail you can share with us i.e. Type and brand of paint, colour matching process, etc etc..Thanks.
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