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post #1 of 36 Old Jan 13th, 2020, 5:42 pm Thread Starter
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Is the 1250 as smooth as the K16 at Interstate speeds: say 75 to 90?

Is the 1250 smoother that earlier 1200 models at those speeds (75-90)?
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I am sure it is NOT as smooth at the K1600.

Can't say about the 1250 compared to 1200 but my 1200WC RT is smoother than my '06 1200 hex head RT
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I had a K1600GTL and now have a R1200RT. The big K is smoother. I like the RT a lot but you can’t beat the motor on the K1600.

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The newer Boxers are pretty smooth for a Boxer. But once you get past about 4500 rpm they get a little busy feeling. Above 5000 rpm for miles on end and you wish you had a 7th gear! But, I never get numb or tingly fingers or feet.

Gonna be hard to beat the inline 6 for smoothness!
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Is the 1250 smoother that earlier 1200 models at those speeds (75-90)?
The engine/transmission on my 1200 Wethead is smoother than the small handful of 1250's I have ridden so far. So the bottom line is there isn't much difference.

However, a horizontally opposed twin just can't be smoother than an in-line 6.

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Is the 1250 as smooth as the K16 at Interstate speeds: say 75 to 90?

Is the 1250 smoother that earlier 1200 models at those speeds (75-90)?
I cannot speak for the wethead R1200, but I can for the hexhead 1200. My R1250RT (11k miles) is much smoother than my old 2005 R1200RT was with 130k miles between 75-90 mph. At 80-85, the 1250 almost dead smooth which I'm sure is still not quite as smooth as a K1600.

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I've done about 15K km on two different rental 1250 RTs and I have 77K km on my own '16 RT as well as about 5K km on a rented K1600.
Compared to a K1600, the answer is a definite no. The big K bike is much smoother.
The two RT are about the same although I find the shifting cams on the 1250 intrusive, specially if you ride on the highway at about the shift point, IIRC at about 110 - 120 kmh which is about 65 - 70 mph. That was riding two-up with luggage.

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I have chatted with people that have owned both and itís no contest the 1600 is smoother and quieter and runs much higher cruising speeds with less fuss but... I still chose the 1250 because itís smaller lighter and more fun. I would say body size makes a big difference as well. If you are a big dude. 6 foot plus and 200 lb or more... get the 1600. If you are a more docile 5í9Ē 185 lb like myself? The RT is for you.


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I am a boxer guy and love my RT and GS. The WC versions are the best yet! There is no way they will ever be as smooth as a 6 cylinder motor BUT ... the 1200 and 1250 RT's are just about as fast as the K1600 up to about 100 MPH. The lower weight of the 1200 & 1250 boxer bikes give it about equal 0-100 speed and that lower weight makes it a great handler. No doubt the K1600 is the king of the highway and handles great for its size and weight. But for me I'll always take the boxer. Oh ... and maintenance costs of the K1600 are 30-50% more.
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I can't really speak regards the K1600 as I've only done a few demonstrator miles on one. My overwhelming impression of it was how damned heavy it was rather than how smooth it undoubtedly would have been.

However I've done getting on for 40,000 miles on 1200 wetheads split evenly between a 2013 GS and a 2016 RT plus a further 4,000 miles on my current R1250RT. I think the difference is chalk and cheese. The 1250 is smoother in every condition than the 1200, not massively, because the 1200 is good, but a definite improvement.

Both the 1200 and 1250 get a bit viby when you are accelerating really hard but you can't do that for many seconds before you're travelling at well over three figure speeds which is licence loosing territory in the UK. Once in to cruise mode I think the 1250 is as smooth as silk at any reasonable cruising speed, say 90 mph or less.

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The 1250 is smoother in every condition than the 1200, not massively, because the 1200 is good, but a definite improvement.
Hi Little-Brit. That is the opposite of my experience. I find the 1200 Wethead smoother than the 1250. In the same way as I found the 850 Oilhead smoother than the 1100 Oilhead.
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Hi Little-Brit. That is the opposite of my experience. I find the 1200 Wethead smoother than the 1250. In the same way as I found the 850 Oilhead smoother than the 1100 Oilhead.
Which is the opposite to my experience, owned a 2014 and put over 20k on it and now own a 1250, it is miles smoother than my 1200 and no flat spots in the torque curve. Also ride a 2015 RTP and my bike is smoother than that as well.
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LOL .. OK then ... looks like both are smoother than the other sometimes :-)

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LOL .. OK then ... looks like both are smoother than the other sometimes :-)
But neither beat the Big K Itís heavy but what a sweet motor.
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But neither beat the Big K Itís heavy but what a sweet motor.
Yep ... sweet motor and an amazing sound! I rode with a buddy who had a K1600GT and when he'd fire it up in the morning it was like music. I told him I missed that sound when he went back to a boxer. But other than that I prefer the RT. Especially when you factor in the ease of maintenance on the RT and near equal performance.

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But neither beat the Big K Itís heavy but what a sweet motor.
Can't beat it but for 2/3 of the cost you can have very smooth, amply potent, 100lbs less and likely better reliability in a 2020 FJR1300-ES

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Can't beat it but for 2/3 of the cost you can have very smooth, amply potent, 100lbs less and likely better reliability in a 2020 FJR1300-ES
The FJR has never tripped my trigger. I hear itís a good & reliable bike but it never as done anything for me. Iíll stick to BMW & the RT & K bikes.
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The FJR has never tripped my trigger. I hear it’s a good & reliable bike but it never as done anything for me. I’ll stick to BMW & the RT & K bikes.
Totally agree! The FJR would be my 2nd choice if I could not get an RT be no way can it replace the RT. And check that weight ... RT is still about 30 pounds lighter that the FJR. It continues to be the lightweight in the category. The FJR is a nice package now that they finally added cruise control and 6 speed but it is still a "RT wannabes"

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Oh .. . not sure where you got 2/3 the cost. MSRP for the standard they are less than $100 apart and the RT has a 3 year warranty w/roadside assistance and FJR has one year.

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Ride a 2015 FJR as well, very nice bike, if I couldn't have an RT the FJR would be my second choice. Heard from the Yamaha rep at the Birmingham show that Yamaha is finishing production of the FJR and not replacing it. Seems an odd decision, but he was pretty positive
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LOL .. OK then ... looks like both are smoother than the other sometimes :-)
Tee, hee.

I have a special device fitted in me. It's called carpal tunnel syndrome :-(

One of the reasons I moved on from the GS to the RT was to improve my wrist comfort. The 1200 and 1250 are identical ergonomically but I get even less aggravation from my wrist on the 1250 than I did from the 1200. Both are superb touring bikes so I'm not trying to knock the 1200 it's just that I find the 1250 to be so much nicer in pretty much any department you care to choose.
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Tee, hee.

I have a special device fitted in me. It's called carpal tunnel syndrome :-(

One of the reasons I moved on from the GS to the RT was to improve my wrist comfort. The 1200 and 1250 are identical ergonomically but I get even less aggravation from my wrist on the 1250 than I did from the 1200. Both are superb touring bikes so I'm not trying to knock the 1200 it's just that I find the 1250 to be so much nicer in pretty much any department you care to choose.
I agree with you, but as we both have owned both, then its real rider comments, not just test ride jockeys Both great bikes and engines.
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Tee, hee.

I have a special device fitted in me. It's called carpal tunnel syndrome :-(

One of the reasons I moved on from the GS to the RT was to improve my wrist comfort. The 1200 and 1250 are identical ergonomically but I get even less aggravation from my wrist on the 1250 than I did from the 1200. Both are superb touring bikes so I'm not trying to knock the 1200 it's just that I find the 1250 to be so much nicer in pretty much any department you care to choose.
Not debating the 1250 vs the 1200 question as I have not owned a 1250. BUT ... if I understand correctly you moved from a 1200 "GS" to a 1250 "RT". Could some of the smoother engine be that the RT is a bit smoother than the GS? I have owned both for years and for me there is no doubt the RT is smoother than the GS and when I say smoother I think it's actually because the RT engine is a little less busy at highway speeds. Just my experience.

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Not debating the 1250 vs the 1200 question as I have not owned a 1250. BUT ... if I understand correctly you moved from a 1200 "GS" to a 1250 "RT". Could some of the smoother engine be that the RT is a bit smoother than the GS? I have owned both for years and for me there is no doubt the RT is smoother than the GS and when I say smoother I think it's actually because the RT engine is a little less busy at highway speeds. Just my experience.
Well I have never owned a GS, did 20k on a 2014RT and around 10k on a 2015 RTP. Only have 3k or so on my 1250 and I do find it stronger and less vibby at high revs. Pulls better than both the 1200s. So that is my seat of the pants opinion. At the end of the day, I don't intend to go back to a 1200 for myself, so it doesn't really matter, each to their own
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[the 1250]Pulls better than both the 1200s. )
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The FJR has never tripped my trigger. I hear it’s a good & reliable bike but it never as done anything for me. I’ll stick to BMW & the RT & K bikes.
I did a 10K mile x-country trip w/ my older bro who put some 600,000 miles on various BMW's including several R1200RTs over the years. Prior to purchasing his '15 FJR-ES he always said his all time favorite w/ his 2002 K1200RS. After putting miles on his FJR he announced it was his favorite bike of all time.

I test rode new FJR-ES and RTW 3 times each before deciding on RTW it was no contest for me personally. But...I fully appreciate how good FJR is especially relative to initial cost and cost of operation: sterling reliability, fabulously smooth strong power, regular octane fuel, and valve checkes every 30K miles or something along those line, ample comfort features, and all at a weight far below what you get w/ the uber ST's from BMW. As the original idea in the thread had to do with 'smooth', clearly a desired attribute for some, FJR absolutely beats any boxer design in this regard and always will.

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FJR 2016 on with the 6th gear is smooth, 5th gear models when up at motorway speeds are revving too hard and need the 6th gear
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I did a 10K mile x-country trip w/ my older bro who put some 600,000 miles on various BMW's including several R1200RTs over the years. Prior to purchasing his '15 FJR-ES he always said his all time favorite w/ his 2002 K1200RS. After putting miles on his FJR he announced it was his favorite bike of all time.

I test rode new FJR-ES and RTW 3 times each before deciding on RTW it was no contest for me personally. But...I fully appreciate how good FJR is especially relative to initial cost and cost of operation: sterling reliability, fabulously smooth strong power, regular octane fuel, and valve checkes every 30K miles or something along those line, ample comfort features, and all at a weight far below what you get w/ the uber ST's from BMW. As the original idea in the thread had to do with 'smooth', clearly a desired attribute for some, FJR absolutely beats any boxer design in this regard and always will.
No doubt the FJR has improved ... finally. The latest edition is a very nice package. But some things to consider ... yes the valve checks are about double that of the RT but they cost about twice in labor. Also, even the new FJR still weighs more than the RT by about 30 pounds! The motor on the FJR is great for sure! But the comfort on the FJR for me is not as good as the RT.

Like others have stated the FJR would be my 2nd choice. Oh and the cost of the FJR is very close to the RT with you compare the base MSRP.

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No doubt the FJR has improved ... finally. The latest edition is a very nice package. But some things to consider ... yes the valve checks are about double that of the RT but they cost about twice in labor. Also, even the new FJR still weighs more than the RT by about 30 pounds! The motor on the FJR is great for sure! But the comfort on the FJR for me is not as good as the RT.

Like others have stated the FJR would be my 2nd choice. Oh and the cost of the FJR is very close to the RT with you compare the base MSRP.
Out the door on an FJR is going to be much lower than R1250RT and that has to do w/ not having all of the so called options available which as you know in the US are all essentially close to fully equipped with those 'options'. Just peruse cycletrader to see what a brand new FJR-ES costs--you'll see plenty under $16K including 2019 models and several under $15K, so that will be plus tax and setup so again will be much lower than R1200RT or 1250RT. And they come as fully equipped already at their listed MSRP.

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The giant plus on FJR is indeed the bullet proof solid smooth engine and rock solid final drive. You don't get that in any R12xRT, which is the only reason I brought it up in this discussion. The 30lb addition is pretty paltry when you get down to it. And, since we were talking smooth K1600 you're almost 100lbs lighter in FJR and will get similar smooth (bro called it 'turbine-like').

For me, I'm interested in any brand that produces a true middle weight ST sacrificing NOTHING in the comfort, tech, styling & performance domains all at a fully fueled curb weight of 520lbs. It's doable I'm convinced and if done as seen in my mind's eye many people in this forum would take note. Where BMW to go there: meet the 2022 T1000GT!

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  • MSRP $16,500 -- few options available to help control costs
Imagine getting the comfort, better performance, and all the tech of R1250RT at 520lbs. This would be music to the ears of many aging riders. Instead, BMW develops the heinous 1800 cruiser! It would be the only machine I would trade in my '16RT for. There are myriad compromised STs out there but none can make the claim they sacrifice nothing in those domains: it's poor wind management, chain driven, etc etc.

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Out the door on an FJR is going to be much lower than R1250RT and that has to do w/ not having all of the so called options available which as you know in the US are all essentially close to fully equipped with those 'options'. Just peruse cycletrader to see what a brand new FJR-ES costs--you'll see plenty under $16K including 2019 models and several under $15K, so that will be plus tax and setup so again will be much lower than R1200RT or 1250RT. And they come as fully equipped already at their listed MSRP.

https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/...TOM-5009877122
https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/...0ES-5005483414
https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/...0ES-5007290247
https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/...0ES-5005483356

The giant plus on FJR is indeed the bullet proof solid smooth engine and rock solid final drive. You don't get that in any R12xRT, which is the only reason I brought it up in this discussion. The 30lb addition is pretty paltry when you get down to it. And, since we were talking smooth K1600 you're almost 100lbs lighter in FJR and will get similar smooth (bro called it 'turbine-like').

For me, I'm interested in any brand that produces a true middle weight ST sacrificing NOTHING in the comfort, tech, styling & performance domains all at a fully fueled curb weight of 520lbs. It's doable I'm convinced and if done as seen in my mind's eye many people in this forum would take note. Where BMW to go there: meet the 2022 T1000GT!

  • 118hp smooth triple or quad
  • Belt final drive w/ 50K mile recommended change interval
  • ABS Pro, ASC, Ride Modes, CC, Dynamic ESA, Cornering LED headlight, TFT Dash, TPMS
  • Full height electrically adjustable windscreen, heated grips, trimmed fairing, ergos like RT has
  • Fuelly fueled weight 520lbs including side cases
  • MSRP $16,500 -- few options available to help control costs
Imagine getting the comfort, better performance, and all the tech of R1250RT at 520lbs. This would be music to the ears of many aging riders. Instead, BMW develops the heinous 1800 cruiser! It would be the only machine I would trade in my '16RT for. There are myriad compromised STs out there but none can make the claim they sacrifice nothing in those domains: it's poor wind management, chain driven, etc etc.
And the FJR would be my 2nd choice for all the reasons listed AND some you can't put a price on ... like dealer service and support .. On-line support and rider community.
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And the FJR would be my 2nd choice for all the reasons listed AND some you can't put a price on ... like dealer service and support .. On-line support and rider community.
I agree. In fact, the only reason I have an RT now is that I had an '05 FJR and thus I just didn't want another one (buying a BMW was a longtime desire of mine that tipped the scale). I find the RT is more comfortable as a tourer for me. That and the weight savings helped reinforce that decision. If I had to buy a another bike tomorrow, it would probably be an FJR.

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And the FJR would be my 2nd choice for all the reasons listed AND some you can't put a price on ... like dealer service and support .. On-line support and rider community.
I don't know if FJR would be my 2nd choice but for all the reasons listed...it ought to also be on my short list

I was sufficiently confused when I decided to buy a heavier ST and as I have done before on occasion created a spreadsheet itemizing each attribute including things like low and high speed handling, features, even proximity to dealer support and everything I could think of. I then entered a score from 1-100 for each of the items in column one. I made a 2nd column to enter a weighting value for the each item according to importance to me personally for that item. The sum total of column one actually had the FJR slightly ahead. But when I multiplied each score by the weighting factor for each score RTW won by a considerable margin. I ordered my '16 custom right after that ritual! In doing a custom order I saved enough to pay for Nav V, BMW valve cover protectors, and a few other things that mattered more to me than the audio option, keyless ignition (god forbid), the heinously ugly chrome bulbous muffler, central locking and even shift-assist pro. I probably should have done SAP but honestly it's a feature looking for a problem to solve IMO. I clutchless upshift from 4th thru 6th anyway, and as far as hard acceleration is concerned if I need to get up to speed on a very short freeway onramp we just stay in 3rd right on up to 70mph and guarantee you we'd very likely be neck and neck anyway. But this being said, I'd probably do SAP if I ordered today.

As for rider support: it was, as you recall, Frontline BMW in Roanoke that sent me running along after buying 4L of Advantec Ultimate from them to of all places a Yamaha shop down the road so we could change oil ourselves!

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Checkout Bamariders website. He owns a 2014 FJR and a 2018 RT. Heís what he calls himself a Long Rider. He has some good information on his bikes. He has and had a Honda ST1100, Honda ST1300, 2005 RT etc. Good trip journalís too. As far as the FJR vs the RT I like being a BMW snob. More classy. Itís like owning a Honda car or a BMW.
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And the FJR would be my 2nd choice for all the reasons listed AND some you can't put a price on ... like dealer service and support .. On-line support and rider community.
I don't know if FJR would be my 2nd choice but for all the reasons listed...it ought to also be on my short list <img src="http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/images/BMWLT_2015/smilies/tango_face_smile_big.png" border="0" alt="" title="Laugh" class="inlineimg" />

I was sufficiently confused when I decided to buy a heavier ST and as I have done before on occasion created a spreadsheet itemizing each attribute including things like low and high speed handling, features, even proximity to dealer support and everything I could think of. I then entered a score from 1-100 for each of the items in column one. I made a 2nd column to enter a weighting value for the each item according to importance to me personally for that item. The sum total of column one actually had the FJR slightly ahead. But when I multiplied each score by the weighting factor for each score RTW won by a considerable margin. I ordered my '16 custom right after that ritual! In doing a custom order I saved enough to pay for Nav V, BMW valve cover protectors, and a few other things that mattered more to me than the audio option, keyless ignition (god forbid), the heinously ugly chrome bulbous muffler, central locking and even shift-assist pro. I probably should have done SAP but honestly it's a feature looking for a problem to solve IMO. I clutchless upshift from 4th thru 6th anyway, and as far as hard acceleration is concerned if I need to get up to speed on a very short freeway onramp we just stay in 3rd right on up to 70mph and guarantee you we'd very likely be neck and neck anyway. But this being said, I'd probably do SAP if I ordered today.

As for rider support: it was, as you recall, Frontline BMW in Roanoke that sent me running along after buying 4L of Advantec Ultimate from them to of all places a Yamaha shop down the road so we could change oil ourselves!
Jeeesh Noel .... sounds like a school project.

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When I bought my 2016 RT it had every feature I wanted and none of what I didn’t want. The only things I did not want were keyless ride and central locking. I love SAP once I learned hue to use it!

Oh yeah ... I actually had them swap the exhaust on my RT so that it came with the chrome muffler. Yep to each his own and that’s what is great about America.

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Checkout Bamariders website. He owns a 2014 FJR and a 2018 RT. Heís what he calls himself a Long Rider. He has some good information on his bikes. He has and had a Honda ST1100, Honda ST1300, 2005 RT etc. Good trip journalís too. As far as the FJR vs the RT I like being a BMW snob. More classy. Itís like owning a Honda car or a BMW.
Certainly snobbism happens w/ choosing a BMW but they do have ample magic if you're willing to pay for it. If Yamaha did my lighter weight FULLY featured as described above ST I'd happily buy it and never look back to BMW, but alas I won't hold my breath. I continue to be totally enthralled w/ the '16 RTW I took delivery of in March 2016 and feel totally blessed to have had no problems with it after 42,000 miles now.
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Likewise, I have been riding since I was 14, and to date, my 16RT is my favorite ‘all around’ bike.

Previous 99RT, 2000LT, 2007GS bikes, were all good in many diff ways. Other non BMW bikes I have owned thru the years, all had their day and satisfied my needs at the time, so my experience and progression with all the diff bikes thru the years, took me eventually to my 16 RT.

Most likely my last ride, it will serve my needs well !
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Jeeesh Noel .... sounds like a school project.
It quite literally started as a school related project for one of my twin daughters who was accepted to 8 different schools for her master's program and they all had lots of great qualities and she wasn't sure which way to go. So as an exercise in setting up a spreadsheet to do this so I conceived of a way to help remove some of the emotions from the decision. She chose the program whose weighted scores were the highest and didn't look back...either

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