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post #1 of 16 Old Nov 11th, 2019, 1:32 pm Thread Starter
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Another $%^&*() Tire Thread!

Well, I don't intend to start a new tire discussion but I did want to let you all know the basics of motorcycle tire use hasn't changed. Yup, my new tires (Dunlop RSIIIs) are way better than the worn out Michelin RP4 GTs that were on the RT before. Yup, the source of 1,000 glowing tire reports is still there.

A little more seriously, while I can't say the RP4s weren't good I believe the Dunlops have a little better turn in and generally give a little better feedback and a planted feel I really like in the twisty stuff. I tested on a road known to some as SRC, a major twist fest.

Finally, it is great to know I'm not crazy for riding a BMW. This is the first time I've had the front wheel off, wow that was easy. I love the way the inner (flat black plastic) fender is cut away to make it easy to pull the wheel almost straight up, avoiding the wheel clamp on my lift table. By far the easiest dual disc front wheel I've pulled. Everything else was done really well, the alignment dowels for the calipers, only 4 screws to pull the "snow shovel" outer fender, I made a simple tool for the big allen screw on the axle so that was easy too. Great job legendary gnomes of Germany.

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post #2 of 16 Old Nov 12th, 2019, 8:54 am
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It's good to hear you like the Dunlops. I'm a transplant from riding H-D's the last 15 years and always liked the Dunlops on my Touring bikes. Some switched to Micheline, some to Metzler, but the Du(Rocks) always had good road feel, good overall mileages and rarely cupped. When I switched over to the BMW RT world, I bought a used 2009 that needed tires, so at the recommendation of MAXBMW, I had them put the RP4 GT's on it. I checked my tires for wear this past September before a major trip up to Maine for a week of spirited riding and was somewhat surprised to see they were already down to 4mm after only 6000 miles of use, and I noticed some cupping on the front sides, the center was fine. I'm used to getting around 15 to 17K from a set of Dunlops, but from what I have read and heard, the RT's go through rubber fairly rapidly. That being said, I don't mind as much because a set of rubber installed by MaxBMW was around 1/2 the $ of my RoadGlide Ultra. So, come Springtime, I will most likely need some new shoes for my RT, and will look at all contenders. I've had Bridgestones on my Sportster and liked them, but, if the RP5 GT's get good reviews, I may go with them, I like the feel of my RP4's just fine.

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Yes you do!

New tires always transform the feel of a bike. The only fair way to compare the Michelins vs the Dunlops would be to swap wheels with new tires on each set, but who's going to do that?

I have a set of Continental Road Attack 3's I'm waiting to put on my RT, but the Michelins just won't wear out. I keep thinking they are almost done, but they keep holding clear of the wear bars. The front is getting a little triangular, and the rear is getting squared off, but handling has not gotten to the point that I feel I need to change them. They were on the bike when I bought it so I don't know how many miles they have. I have been accustomed to getting 15-17,000 miles on PR4's on previous bikes, but I don't ride very aggressively, mostly commuting.

Glad you like the Dunlops, keep us posted as to their wear properties.
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Re: Another $%^&*() Tire Thread!

This is OIL THREAD season, c'mon, get with the program.

All you need to know about tires is to change out the summer air for winter air, and you'll be fine.
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This is OIL THREAD season, c'mon, get with the program.

All you need to know about tires is to change out the summer air for winter air, and you'll be fine.
I like using 75W-90 hypoid gear oil on my tires. I find they look much nicer after a fresh lube. Of course, I seem to wreck my bike after every application. Funny how that happens. Bad luck I guess. Good thing I put on a set of crash bars in the spring...

...say, you guy don't think they might be related do you? Am I using the wrong lube?
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I like using 75W-90 hypoid gear oil on my tires. I find they look much nicer after a fresh lube. Of course, I seem to wreck my bike after every application. Funny how that happens. Bad luck I guess. Good thing I put on a set of crash bars in the spring...

...say, you guy don't think they might be related do you? Am I using the wrong lube?
They totally do look nicer but if you still find you're crashing it's probably because you're using the front brake, try using spline grease on the rotors.
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Am I using the wrong lube?
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Finally, it is great to know I'm not crazy for riding a BMW. This is the first time I've had the front wheel off, wow that was easy. I love the way the inner (flat black plastic) fender is cut away to make it easy to pull the wheel almost straight up, avoiding the wheel clamp on my lift table. ...
What bike do you have?

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That is correct, sorry to leave a very important detail out of my original post.


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What is this 'Garage' you talk of?

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Here is the best review I have seen:
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Thank you very much, I assumed the superior feel and (apparent) traxion of the Dunlops would cost me milage, maybe not. Lower cost, better feel and superior life, seems like a good deal.


Also nice to see and hear Moshe, I used to read his stuff in MCN. I subscribed to his channel, I look forward to more from him in the future.

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I think the most interesting thing he said is how we really can't compare tires between different riders as there are to many variables. So his review is with the same bike and same roads over many miles. I'mm going to try the RS III's for my next tire change
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Look in the left column, under his name, and you will see a "Garage" hyperlink.
Just click on it...

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