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Top photo of "R18/2" just shown at EICMA. Bottom photo was concept R18.

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post #2 of 14 Old Nov 6th, 2019, 7:21 pm
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The red one looks like a drag bike.

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Don't care for either one.
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Don't care for either one.
Agreed. They look like something someone would ride a quarter of a mile to Starbucks, then sit there for four hours talking about how cool it is before riding back home.
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Bottom photo was concept R18.
I hate to say it, but I REALLY like that bottom one.They really have succeeded in a modern retro look.
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Yes later in life when touring is not here, and I am just riding around that bottom one would do just fine!

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I'll take either one. To me either one would be fun to just do 20-50 mile local rides around my area. Kinda like you would in a muscle car or antique car
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I had a friend and fellow rider visit yesterday and he mentioned these new/retro designs.... as part of an interesting, hours long chat.

As we talked I had the feeling that there has been a major shift at BMW. Historically it seems/feels like BMW has been an Engineering driven company. Meaning the engineers have been the driving force in design. With the release of these "new" retro-look bikes I think the Marketing guys have taken over and have more influence than the engineers...

Not sure this a good thing for the Mothership...
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As we talked I had the feeling that there has been a major shift at BMW. Historically it seems/feels like BMW has been an Engineering driven company. Meaning the engineers have been the driving force in design. With the release of these "new" retro-look bikes I think the Marketing guys have taken over and have more influence than the engineers...

Not sure this a good thing for the Mothership...
I agree it is a death nell for any sort of broadening of their market share w/ these models. Wake me up when they come out with a new true sports tourer sacrificing nothing for comfort, performance, tech all in a 520lb package inc side cases, emphasizing sport design & paint but with full-on touring ergonomics inc electric screen--that is a design no brand has currently and if done really well would have considerable appeal worldwide I feel. These retro designs will garner a tiny market share relative to their manufacturing cost. What a waste of design and manufacturing effort.
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What a waste of design and manufacturing effort.
You think?
Tell that to Harley and Indian.

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I have been advised by a BMW dealer who has seen the production version(s) during an embargoed presentation to dealers that the production version(s) do not resemble the red R18/2 bike in the photo I posted above. To me, that is good news. I hope the production models bear more resemblance to the original concept R18, which is shown above in black.

Whatever the production R18s are like, I doubt they will lure me away from the R1200RT and R1250RT models.


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I love how BMW continues to fart around with these concepts rather than getting to the real deal. They keep dragging this on, people will lose interest. Doesn't matter to me either way. Cruisers have never been my style. Touring with a lot of sport.

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