Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest - BMW Luxury Touring Community
 18Likes
  • 1 Post By Norriscyn
  • 1 Post By OregonRider
  • 1 Post By casbar
  • 1 Post By casbar
  • 2 Post By LAF
  • 2 Post By rangemaster
  • 2 Post By casbar
  • 2 Post By casbar
  • 1 Post By realshelby
  • 1 Post By Irhawk
  • 2 Post By realshelby
  • 2 Post By Irhawk
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 22 Unread Oct 9th, 2019, 10:43 pm Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 88
Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

I have a 2017 R1200RT and purchased a Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest.

Their user guides states "Ideally you can remove the saddle and find a sturdy point close to the tank. The attachment point SHOULD NOT BE LOWER THAN THE BOTTOM OF THE SADDLE". It also states "Do not attach the tether strap to the handle bar". It is also recommended to NOT place the anchor point behind the rider.

I cannot find a place under the RTW seat to attach the tether. Has anyone who owns the Helite Vest overcome this problem?
LAF likes this.

2017 R1200RT
(2014 R1200RT)

Last edited by Norriscyn; Oct 9th, 2019 at 10:48 pm.
Norriscyn is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 22 Unread Oct 9th, 2019, 11:09 pm
Member
 
OregonRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Klamath Falls, OR, USA
Posts: 71
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

My BMW dealer attached mine under the seat height adjustment plate that you invert to change seat height. Short distance from there to the attachment on the vest.
LAF likes this.

Eric
Klamath Falls Oregon
2019 R1250RT
2016 R1200RT
2012 R1200RT
OregonRider is offline  
post #3 of 22 Unread Oct 10th, 2019, 5:11 am
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 223
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

Don't worry too much about their advice, I have had a Helite tether on a 2014 for 4 years and now have it on my 1250.

If you remove the seat, secure the tether around the frame member running along the left side. Then have the tether come up through the the bracket that the seat height bar sits on (if that makes sense). Then the tether comes up roughly central between the seat and the tank. It works fine, I know, I got pushed off from a rear end on a RTp, which had the tether in the same place. vest was inflated before I hit the ground . I'll take a pic and try and upload later
LAF likes this.
casbar is offline  
 
post #4 of 22 Unread Oct 10th, 2019, 5:28 am
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 223
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

Then route so it sits in the middle of the tank when the seat is in position. Its a bit of a pain to get the right lengh. I adjust mine so if I stand on the pegs the tether is fully extended and taught. With that length I can also get off the left side without the bag deploying, although it takes quite a pull to set if off accidentally, when I first got the vest, I often forgot to undo the tether, but the bag never deployed, I just stopped when I felt the pull.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_2352.JPG
Views:	41
Size:	1.91 MB
ID:	154603   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_2351.JPG
Views:	43
Size:	1.44 MB
ID:	154605  
LAF likes this.
casbar is offline  
post #5 of 22 Unread Oct 10th, 2019, 6:30 am
LAF
Lifetime Supporter
 
LAF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Harrisburg , PA, USA
Posts: 2,975
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

Had mine at the seat height frame tube for a year now. Biggest thing is it is where you can reach it easily and ideally see it. I lay mine across the seat so I see it when I get on the bike, but it is pretty much a habit now.

IMHO what a great device. Built in back pad gives good air flow with a riding jacket that has no back pad as it is not needed. Hi Viz for sure, cant miss it!

Shameless Plug: I have a XXL and have lost 44 pounds so would like to sell it and get a smaller size or trade if someone is interested. I still wear it but I can get a bit more then the fist distance from my riding cloths that is the correct distance you need for it to expand. PM me if you would like to work something out.

Lee
17.5 R1200 GSW Black Low
15 R1200 RTLC San Marino Blue Metallic (Sold)
10 Liquid Silver FJR1300 (Sold)
O7 Biarritz Blue Metallic LT (Totaled 2010)
ATGATT I am breathing proof.
BMW MOA #135959
LAF is offline  
post #6 of 22 Unread Oct 10th, 2019, 6:37 am
Senior Member
 
realshelby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Missouri City, Texas, USA
Posts: 396
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

Mine is attached to the left side frame rail, just to the rear of the left rear bolt that holds the seat height bracket.

I also installed the short tethered female accessory clip to my left grip/control of the handled bar and click the loose end of the tether into that when I remove it. I was forgetting to plug in the vest when leaving the tether on the seat.....Having it clipped onto the bar makes it hard to miss!


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

'14 R 1200 RT '12 DL 650
realshelby is offline  
post #7 of 22 Unread Oct 10th, 2019, 8:33 am
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 223
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

Quote:
Originally Posted by LAF View Post
Had mine at the seat height frame tube for a year now. Biggest thing is it is where you can reach it easily and ideally see it. I lay mine across the seat so I see it when I get on the bike, but it is pretty much a habit now.

IMHO what a great device. Built in back pad gives good air flow with a riding jacket that has no back pad as it is not needed. Hi Viz for sure, cant miss it!

Shameless Plug: I have a XXL and have lost 44 pounds so would like to sell it and get a smaller size or trade if someone is interested. I still wear it but I can get a bit more then the fist distance from my riding cloths that is the correct distance you need for it to expand. PM me if you would like to work something out.
Not sure in the States, but in the UK, Airvest.co.uk, who are the UK distributor, Europe, will do a part ex depending on age of vest. I just got £200 for my 3 year old turtle in exchange for a turtle 2 in hi vis, my original was black. It was up for servicing, so taking the service cost and the trade in, worked out reasonable to change the vest for a new one
casbar is offline  
post #8 of 22 Unread Oct 10th, 2019, 4:14 pm
Senior Member
 
NoelCP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,734
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

People, tell me how much of a PIA this item is to actually live with, how often you don it, etc. It surely seems like it could provide very meaningful protection while at the same time yet another piece of equipment to don. I use a FF helmet, armored pants/jacket, and taller armored boot and gloves. Do you use it only when doing longer rides, always, etc? I'm kind of guessing I'd use it only on longer rides w/o stops. Prior to the snowfall that just hit today I've been doing 60-110m rides into the local mountains (CO's Front Range) twice a week, and local 30-40m rides in the flatter areas in some light traffic maybe 3-4d/wk. I've been on the fence with it so would appreciate more user insight after you've lived with an air vest for awhile. Thanks

2016 R1200RT - Dreamliner
2013 F800GT - Sold
1986 Parallel Twin Daughters -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1985 Kawasaki 1000 LTD - Sold
1964 Harley Davidson Sprint 250 - Sold
1968 Honda 350 - Sold
NoelCP is offline  
post #9 of 22 Unread Oct 10th, 2019, 7:48 pm
LAF
Lifetime Supporter
 
LAF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Harrisburg , PA, USA
Posts: 2,975
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

I wear mine EVERY time I get on the bike.

Why have a piece of equipment and not use it?

Like I say you get to loose your back pads from all your riding gear and that adds comfort for me. It also seems to ventilate much better especially in the Stitch Jacket with the rear vents set to what I need.

It is 4 clicks to put on and that includes the tether to arm it once you are on the bike.

I CAN NOT take another neck injury and this thing really protects that area as well as chest, ribs, and back.

Everyone wears what they want and assumes their own risk management for themselves. I want every meager penny from my retirement for as many years as I can draw it
rapz and NoelCP like this.

Lee
17.5 R1200 GSW Black Low
15 R1200 RTLC San Marino Blue Metallic (Sold)
10 Liquid Silver FJR1300 (Sold)
O7 Biarritz Blue Metallic LT (Totaled 2010)
ATGATT I am breathing proof.
BMW MOA #135959
LAF is offline  
post #10 of 22 Unread Oct 10th, 2019, 9:30 pm
Senior Member
 
rangemaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: NW Oregon
Posts: 375
Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

I agree w/LAF... been wearing a HirAir vest for 3 years now...and wear it EVERY TIME.

Putting it on and remembering to unclip when I stopped was a PITA at first, but soon it became second nature and I donít feel it slows me down now.

Just a few clicks and Iím ready to go - between that and the D3O armor I retrofitted my riding gear with I feel better protected.

If it saves me from (or reduces the severity of) a serious injury itís worth the expense, time/effort.

That being said I also have a LifeFlight membership


Ride safe!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
LAF and NoelCP like this.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
rangemaster is offline  
post #11 of 22 Unread Oct 11th, 2019, 2:26 am
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 223
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

I never ride without it. Its no more a pain than putting a helmet on. Its second nature now to just clip on the tether.
LAF and NoelCP like this.
casbar is offline  
post #12 of 22 Unread Oct 11th, 2019, 4:30 am
LAF
Lifetime Supporter
 
LAF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Harrisburg , PA, USA
Posts: 2,975
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

Quote:
Originally Posted by casbar View Post
I never ride without it. Its no more a pain than putting a helmet on. Its second nature now to just clip on the tether.
Less pain then a helmet.

Guys get geared up all the time and throw a High Viz vest on, this is no more work then that.

Shameless Plug any big guys want a deal on a as new high viz vest? It is as new, and for what they cost it gets preference for care when it is out.

Lee
17.5 R1200 GSW Black Low
15 R1200 RTLC San Marino Blue Metallic (Sold)
10 Liquid Silver FJR1300 (Sold)
O7 Biarritz Blue Metallic LT (Totaled 2010)
ATGATT I am breathing proof.
BMW MOA #135959
LAF is offline  
post #13 of 22 Unread Oct 11th, 2019, 7:21 am
Senior Member
 
realshelby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Missouri City, Texas, USA
Posts: 396
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

I too would say it is less hassle than a helmet. I am convinced the protection it offers may be just as important as a helmet.

I wear it every time. Once on the bike and hooked up I can forget it is even on me. The weight isn't noticed. Doesn't rub on anything. It really isn't all that thick, which was a surprise. The back armor is very large....and probable far above anything else in protection...and you remove the armor out of your regular riding jacket. So, there is very little added bulk when wearing the airbag vest.

I wish there was a way to have velcro tabs on it. And some on the jackets you wear. That way you would unbuckle the vest....and simply remove it WITH your jacket. That would make it almost no work at all to use. Regardless, it is easier to use than I expected.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

'14 R 1200 RT '12 DL 650
realshelby is offline  
post #14 of 22 Unread Oct 11th, 2019, 10:31 am
Senior Member
 
NoelCP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,734
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

No buyer's remorse in these replies that's great. Thanks it is moving me closer to accepting the reality that w/o it, as an uber-safety conscious and practicing rider it's a bit odd for me not to use one!

2016 R1200RT - Dreamliner
2013 F800GT - Sold
1986 Parallel Twin Daughters -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1985 Kawasaki 1000 LTD - Sold
1964 Harley Davidson Sprint 250 - Sold
1968 Honda 350 - Sold
NoelCP is offline  
post #15 of 22 Unread Oct 12th, 2019, 5:33 am
Lifetime Supporter
 
garr2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Vincentia, NSW, Australia
Posts: 248
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

Quote:
People, tell me how much of a PIA this item is to actually live with, how often you don it, etc
OK here goes.
1) When I wear the vest it partially covers the vents of my jacket so it is probably a little warmer wearing it in summer. The Helite vented jacket (rather than vest) with airbag built in solves this problem.
2) When I put the vest on over my jacket I have to put on 2 items of clothing. When I take it off I have to take off and then store 2 items rather than 1. The Helite vented jacket (rather than vest) with airbag built in solves this problem.
3) Sometimes (1 in 20) I forget to connect the tether before riding off. Happens less often now it has been incorporated in to my mounting/starting/riding off procedure. If I have forgotten to connect, I soon realise and either pull over or use cruise control to free up both hands to get the job done quickly. [enter disclaimer here].
4) It is possible to deploy the airbag when getting off the bike. BANG! I've done it.
When getting off the bike in the normal way (however you do it) you get a tugging reminder well before it detonates if you have forgotten to detach.
If you get off the bike in a weird way as you have to when fully loaded (see pic) - you know hopping backwards on your left foot while dragging your right leg over the seat - then BANG! I've only ever done it once and the Australian distributor of Helite tells me I'm the only person he's ever heard of doing it. I'm special!



Having said all that I wear my airbag whenever I ride, even up the road to get fuel.
I might be special but I'm not stupid.

Ian

My plan is to live forever. So far so good.
garr2 is offline  
post #16 of 22 Unread Oct 12th, 2019, 6:26 am
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 223
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

I never take the vest off separately, when I take my jacket off, the vest comes off with it, and it lives on the jacket on a hangar.

A airbag jacket is a good idea, but I have more than one jacket, vented for summer and a Rukka jacket for winter, so the vest works as it can be used with any jacket. I ride all year around

In 3 years I have not managed to set the bag off by stepping off the bike, its now second nature to disconnect the tether, although I have had the tether go tight, but not enough to set the canister off.

Great bit of kit.
LAF and realshelby like this.
casbar is offline  
post #17 of 22 Unread Oct 12th, 2019, 8:20 am
Senior Member
 
realshelby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Missouri City, Texas, USA
Posts: 396
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

^

I have 4 different jackets/suits I might wear at a given time. So while I do like the idea of a jacket with the airbag it isn't a viable option for everyone.

I need to work on keeping the vest on the jacket when I take them off......
LAF likes this.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

'14 R 1200 RT '12 DL 650
realshelby is offline  
post #18 of 22 Unread Oct 13th, 2019, 4:11 am
LAF
Lifetime Supporter
 
LAF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Harrisburg , PA, USA
Posts: 2,975
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

So any big guys want to try a almost new XXL vest for a reasonable amount? PM if you would like to.

Lee
17.5 R1200 GSW Black Low
15 R1200 RTLC San Marino Blue Metallic (Sold)
10 Liquid Silver FJR1300 (Sold)
O7 Biarritz Blue Metallic LT (Totaled 2010)
ATGATT I am breathing proof.
BMW MOA #135959
LAF is offline  
post #19 of 22 Unread Oct 13th, 2019, 10:39 pm
Member
 
Irhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 46
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

Quote:
Originally Posted by casbar View Post
Not sure in the States, but in the UK, Airvest.co.uk, who are the UK distributor, Europe, will do a part ex depending on age of vest. I just got £200 for my 3 year old turtle in exchange for a turtle 2 in hi vis, my original was black. It was up for servicing, so taking the service cost and the trade in, worked out reasonable to change the vest for a new one
Didn't realize Helite vests needed servicing. Is that after a deployment? I weigh the CO2 cartridge once a year to ensure the weight is within specs, but that's all. Is there additional routine maintenance that needs to be done?

A helite vest is minimal hassle to use. I have occasionally forgot to release the vest when getting off the bike but quickly remember when I feel the tug. Thankfully I've never had a deployment.

I did not attach the cord under the seat. Instead I attached it to the frame in front of the gas tank and under the handle bars. It seems to work well in that position and allows me to stand up while riding.

For me, the vest is too hot to wear in the Texas summer heat over a mesh jacket. Instead, I simply wear the vest over a t-shirt and am comfortable in 90+ weather. Granted, my arms and shoulders are not protected in that scenario but it's a risk I have been willing to take. YMMV.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1697.jpeg
Views:	13
Size:	649.1 KB
ID:	154629  
LAF likes this.

Mark Pedersen
Canyon Lake, Tx

2016 R1200RT
2014 K16GTL

"Is this heaven? . . . it's Iowa"
Irhawk is offline  
post #20 of 22 Unread Yesterday, 2:22 am
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 223
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

Quote:
Originally Posted by Irhawk View Post
Didn't realize Helite vests needed servicing. Is that after a deployment? I weigh the CO2 cartridge once a year to ensure the weight is within specs, but that's all. Is there additional routine maintenance that needs to be done?

A helite vest is minimal hassle to use. I have occasionally forgot to release the vest when getting off the bike but quickly remember when I feel the tug. Thankfully I've never had a deployment.

I did not attach the cord under the seat. Instead I attached it to the frame in front of the gas tank and under the handle bars. It seems to work well in that position and allows me to stand up while riding.

For me, the vest is too hot to wear in the Texas summer heat over a mesh jacket. Instead, I simply wear the vest over a t-shirt and am comfortable in 90+ weather. Granted, my arms and shoulders are not protected in that scenario but it's a risk I have been willing to take. YMMV.
In the UK, the vests come with a 4 year warranty, they recommend the vest is sent back for service every year if it has been deployed or showing signs of wear, but at least every 2 years to maintain the warranty. They clean it and check it over. It costs £50 plus postage to have it done. Not sure if this is really needed, they recommend changing the canister every 3 years.
casbar is offline  
post #21 of 22 Unread Yesterday, 7:02 am
Senior Member
 
realshelby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Missouri City, Texas, USA
Posts: 396
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

Quote:
Originally Posted by Irhawk View Post
I did not attach the cord under the seat. Instead I attached it to the frame in front of the gas tank and under the handle bars. It seems to work well in that position and allows me to stand up while riding.
I am not here to tell you that you MUST fix your attachment point. Up to you. BUT...it goes against the directions for installation. Simply put, your body will have to be beyond the fairing for the tether to get tight. You want the protection of the vest immediately. Mounting the tether under the seat allows plenty of room to stand completely straight up for me. It is the recommended mounting area by the manufacturer.
LAF and garr2 like this.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

'14 R 1200 RT '12 DL 650
realshelby is offline  
post #22 of 22 Unread Yesterday, 10:41 pm
Member
 
Irhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 46
Re: Helite (Turtle 2) Airbag Vest

Quote:
Originally Posted by realshelby View Post
I am not here to tell you that you MUST fix your attachment point. Up to you. BUT...it goes against the directions for installation. Simply put, your body will have to be beyond the fairing for the tether to get tight. You want the protection of the vest immediately. Mounting the tether under the seat allows plenty of room to stand completely straight up for me. It is the recommended mounting area by the manufacturer.
Youíre right. I changed it today. Under the seat. Thanks.
LAF and garr2 like this.

Mark Pedersen
Canyon Lake, Tx

2016 R1200RT
2014 K16GTL

"Is this heaven? . . . it's Iowa"
Irhawk is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the BMW Luxury Touring Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 3 (2 members and 1 guests)
2014R1200Rt, RiderJohn



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome