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Seat height, change low to standard or high, possible?

I have bought a '12 R1200RT. The bike is currently 850 miles away and I'm having it delivered. Currently the bike has the low seat. I am 6'1" and have a 32/33 inseam. I suspect the current seat will have me looking like one of those monkeys riding the tiny bicycle at the circus... Would I be better off looking for a factory seat, rebuilding the current low seat or going with a custom seat? Most of my riding will be short distance and commuting. I don't foresee any 8 hours in the saddle days.

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Get the standard seat to replace the low seat, and you should be more comfortable. The seat, either one, can be adjusted to either of 2 heights, on the bike, and so you want to set the low seat to the high position in the meantime. Look for the seat on eBay, and make sure that the seat being sold is with heat (less expensive without the heating element), since there are seats sold without heat, assuming that's what you would want.

Beemerboneyard is a good place to look for used or salvaged parts for your bike, and definitely the place to go to for expendable parts (OEM filters and such), if you will be doing your own maintenance work. If you buy there, use the code BMWST or BMWMOA when you check-out to get 10% discount. I just looked, and they don't have the seat that you will want, but this should give you some ideas as to what you should be paying for a seat: https://www.beemerboneyard.com/52537683654nh.html

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Get the standard seat to replace the low seat, and you should be more comfortable. The seat, either one, can be adjusted to either of 2 heights, on the bike, and so you want to set the low seat to the high position in the meantime. Look for the seat on eBay, and make sure that the seat being sold is with heat (less expensive without the heating element), since there are seats sold without heat, assuming that's what you would want.

Beemerboneyard is a good place to look for used or salvaged parts for your bike, and definitely the place to go to for expendable parts (OEM filters and such), if you will be doing your own maintenance work. If you buy there, use the code BMWST or BMWMOA when you check-out to get 10% discount. I just looked, and they don't have the seat that you will want, but this should give you some ideas as to what you should be paying for a seat: https://www.beemerboneyard.com/52537683654nh.html
Thanks for the advice PadG. I have an email notice set up with BeemerBoneyard for my seat. So hopefully they will let me know when one comes in. I'll do the same on eBay. I gather the seats can just be swapped, no modifications to contend with?

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Cal... welcome to the asylum... we will try to be helpful, and congratulations on getting your first BMW.

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Do you know which "Low" seat it has? There are three I believe (two are one-piece affairs and the other is a two-piece setup). If you can post a picture I can tell you which one it has. Another question, does the bike have ESA?

Contact Terry at Terry's Custom. His seats are about $250 each if you have a two-piece or $500 for a one piece base.

Going from a two-piece to a one-piece requires the removal of two plastic bits that hold the two-piece seats in place. It's possible, if you are getting a one-piece, that these are not installed and thus you'd need to buy them to use a one-piece. They aren't expensive (~$40 or so I think) but you do need them if you go two-piece.

I know this is all confusing, post a picture of the seat it has installed and one of the area under the seat with it removed and I can tell exactly what's what.

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I don't think that is true for the Wethead 1200 and 1250 (that used to appply to the hexhead and camhead 1200's).
You are probably correct but he said it was a 2012 which is a Camhead not a Wethead which use completely different and non-interchangeable seats:

There are two one-piece designs: the Extra Low (a.k.a. MTD or Medieval Torture Device) and the Comfort Low. There is at least one "standard" two-piece seat (I think there may be a Low two-piece but I've never seen one in the wild). I've had all three of these so I'm quite familiar with what's available.

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Do you know which "Low" seat it has? There are three I believe (two are one-piece affairs and the other is a two-piece setup). If you can post a picture I can tell you which one it has. Another question, does the bike have ESA?

Contact Terry at Terry's Custom. His seats are about $250 each if you have a two-piece or $500 for a one piece base.

Going from a two-piece to a one-piece requires the removal of two plastic bits that hold the two-piece seats in place. It's possible, if you are getting a one-piece, that these are not installed and thus you'd need to buy them to use a one-piece. They aren't expensive (~$40 or so I think) but you do need them if you go two-piece.

I know this is all confusing, post a picture of the seat it has installed and one of the area under the seat with it removed and I can tell exactly what's what.
Pappy53, The only pic I have of the seat is from the original ad. If I have enough posts, I'll post it here. It has a driver backrest also.
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You are probably correct but he said it was a 2012 which is a Camhead not a Wethead which use completely different and non-interchangeable seats:
Hi Pappy, please accept my appologies. I mis-read the OP.
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Your other option is a Sargent Seat (new or used). It will provide some comfort and support in addition to stock height.


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Pappy53, The only pic I have of the seat is from the original ad. If I have enough posts, I'll post it here. It has a driver backrest also.
That's the Extra Low one-piece. I have a 29 inch inseam and I could flatfoot the bike with that one. Everyone's arse is different but I could not tolerate that seat for more than 30 minutes at a time. Whether you need those plastic standoffs or not depends on what seat you install. As I stated earlier one-piece no, two-piece, yes.

Does the bike have ESA? I ask because if it doesn't, having that seat suggests, but does not prove, that it may also be the lowered suspension version as that seat came with that version. Mine is lowered. You could ask your local dealer to run the bike's VIN to see what options it has installed.

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Hi Pappy, please accept my appologies. I mis-read the OP.
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There's no need to apologize. That happens to me all the time.

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Your other option is a Sargent Seat (new or used). It will provide some comfort and support in addition to stock height.
I had a Sargent seat too. It was very nice! The regular one was too tall for me but it was very comfortable. As an added plus, they were wonderful to deal with and that 30-day no questions asked return is real. They took mine back after three weeks and all I was out was return shipping. Class act they are!

In the short-term, I'd highly recommend a trip to Home Depot for a piece of 3/4" plywood. It'll be more comfortable than that Extra Low. Haha

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That's the Extra Low one-piece. I have a 29 inch inseam and I could flatfoot the bike with that one. Everyone's arse is different but I could not tolerate that seat for more than 30 minutes at a time. Whether you need those plastic standoffs or not depends on what seat you install. As I stated earlier one-piece no, two-piece, yes.

Does the bike have ESA? I ask because if it doesn't, having that seat suggests, but does not prove, that it may also be the lowered suspension version as that seat came with that version. Mine is lowered. You could ask your local dealer to run the bike's VIN to see what options it has installed.

I would kill for one in that color! Regardless of the seat question, you got yourself a really nice flavor of Germanic gourmet ice cream there!
I ran the VIN on one of the VIN decoders, there was no mention of the lowered suspension in the list of options. I read here somewhere that the code for the lowered suspension was 0499. There was no 0499 to be found. I should have printed it... I can look it up again I guess.

Regarding ESA, I'm 99% sure it does have it. Regarding that, all seat situations aside, how should I set the preload on the rear? Currently... I weigh 300 lbs. I'm thinking set it for one passengar plus luggage. Or should I set it for two passengers? What do you think? As I mentioned earlier, I'm not an aggressive rider, I'll be looking more for comfort.

I should have said it before now but thank you to the other folks who have responded with thier insight.
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Your other option is a Sargent Seat (new or used). It will provide some comfort and support in addition to stock height.
Thanks for the input alegerlotz, I think there is a sargent seat on Ebay for it now. I suppose I should wait until I have actually sat on it to buy a seat... I'm still a little confused over the one piece/two piece details. I need to re-read the thread and remember what I read! I'd really like to keep the backrest if possible. I put one on my Electra Glide and it was very comfortable.

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Be sure to post some pics. I would be very interested in how that backrest is mounted. If that is the extra low seat there's no hole for it to go through.

How many miles does it have on it?

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Lots of great advice, but I don't think that anyone mentioned that, since the seat on this RT is the low 1-piece seat, you will need to get a new pillion seat as well, if you are going to change! One thing to make sure of, when you get your new seats, whichever you decide on, just make sure that they will be for the 2005 - 2013 model year RT. The seats on the newer, 2014 - present RT, will NOT fit your bike.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot! You will also need some mounting components for under the seat, since the standard adjuster was removed to enable the 1-piece seat to fit!

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How many miles does it have on it?
Dang Pappy 53, I was trying to keep that quiet! It has 152K. Hope these things last a while. Here are a few more pics too.
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you will need to get a new pillion seat as well, if you are going to change!
Yes, I figured I would need the whole seat, there are a few on ebay. It currently has a heated seat, I would like to replace it with one. Although, I won't be riding much when I would need one!

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152k? Pffft...it's just getting broken in!
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"Regarding ESA, I'm 99% sure it does have it. Regarding that, all seat situations aside, how should I set the preload on the rear? Currently... I weigh 300 lbs. I'm thinking set it for one passengar plus luggage. Or should I set it for two passengers? What do you think? As I mentioned earlier, I'm not an aggressive rider, I'll be looking more for comfort.

Yes, set it for two riders and luggage. I have found that the RT and GS models come with "showroom" seats. Feels good for a couple of minutes in the showroom but on the road you suffer. May seem contrary but I find a firm seat works for me. So many choices. The Touratech and Wonderlich seats are on the firm side and made in Germany. Sargent usually has a sale in November and they are returnable in 30 days if needed. Personally I don't like Corbin. Ebay has good used stuff if your careful.

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I have bought a '12 R1200RT. The bike is currently 850 miles away and I'm having it delivered. Currently the bike has the low seat. I am 6'1" and have a 32/33 inseam. I suspect the current seat will have me looking like one of those monkeys riding the tiny bicycle at the circus... Would I be better off looking for a factory seat, rebuilding the current low seat or going with a custom seat? Most of my riding will be short distance and commuting. I don't foresee any 8 hours in the saddle days.



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I would NOT buy a standard BMW seat. The stock seat isn't very comfy. I bought a Sargent and I'm happy with that. If you're buying new, get something like that. Good for long distance and local and corner carving because you can move around a little on it.

I think Russell Day-Long might be more comfortable for very long distance, but they plant you in one position. I suppose you can always stand up when your butt gets tired (like I do...at most any speed)....but I like options, especially when I'm throwing the bike and myself into corners.

The LC has the best stock seat I've seen in 4 RTs I've owned, but it's still not really good.

2 things I got immedately for this one.... A Sargent seat, an Aeroflow "tall" screen,

I installed the Valentine One with remote display and Legal Speeding helmet light from my old bike.

After riding it a bit, I got Illium bar-baks and front crash bar.

After riding a bit more, handle-bar mirrors from eBay. I may buy some stock BMW ones as these don't seem to stay where I put them for long. .

I think I'm done after that...famous last words?


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I would NOT buy a standard BMW seat. The stock seat isn't very comfy. I bought a Sargent and I'm happy with that. If you're buying new, get something like that. Good for long distance and local and corner carving because you can move around a little on it.

I think Russell Day-Long might be more comfortable for very long distance, but they plant you in one position. I suppose you can always stand up when your butt gets tired (like I do...at most any speed)....but I like options, especially when I'm throwing the bike and myself into corners.

The LC has the best stock seat I've seen in 4 RTs I've owned, but it's still not really good.

2 things I got immedately for this one.... A Sargent seat, an Aeroflow "tall" screen,

I installed the Valentine One with remote display and Legal Speeding helmet light from my old bike.

After riding it a bit, I got Illium bar-baks and front crash bar.

After riding a bit more, handle-bar mirrors from eBay. I may buy some stock BMW ones as these don't seem to stay where I put them for long. .

I think I'm done after that...famous last words?

Thanks rtwiz, for the good advice. I think before spring I'll have either a custom seat or one of the major aftermarket seats. Right now, I'll look at anything for the short term. I'ts entirely possible I won't be able to ride safely with its current seat.

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Welcome aboard? Where in Tidewater VA are you located? I'm over in Portsmouth and I'd be interested in that seat if it fits my bike which is an 09. If you have a line on a standard height two piece seat, that would be more livable, something like a corbin or Russel even better. People swap seats all the time, easiest way to get the bike to fit better. I even have a set of Peg lowering adapters that I didnt use on mine that help to keep the knees from getting scrunched up.

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Yes, I figured I would need the whole seat, there are a few on ebay. It currently has a heated seat, I would like to replace it with one. Although, I won't be riding much when I would need one!
Don't forget that you will also need to replace the height adjuster on the RT that was removed to fit that 1-piece seat. Pappy can probably tell you exactly what you need, or you can do a search in the forum to find old thread on what has to be done to convert the seat back to the more standard 2-seats set-up.

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Welcome aboard? Where in Tidewater VA are you located? I'm over in Portsmouth and I'd be interested in that seat if it fits my bike which is an 09. If you have a line on a standard height two piece seat, that would be more livable, something like a corbin or Russel even better. People swap seats all the time, easiest way to get the bike to fit better. I even have a set of Peg lowering adapters that I didnt use on mine that help to keep the knees from getting scrunched up.

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Been away for a little and just saw your post. I'm west of you, out RT 460 near Zuni (which is west of Windsor by about 5 miles) I pass through Portsmouth every day on my way to/from work. I'll keep in touch about the seat, did you see the pic I posted of it? It looks like a really low seat. I have no idea if it would fit an '09. I guess Adventure BMW could tell you.

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I have a 2012rt. Standard suspension. The standard height seat was just a tad to high for me. I'm 5'12" tall, oops I meant 6' tall with a 34" inseam. I purchased a BMW low seat and found the height much better. What BMW did was use the same seat pan for both seats and recontoured the cushion to make it a lower seat. This sacrificed comfort to achieve the lower height. The next seat I purchased and still ride with no issues is the OEM BMW one piece comfort seat. For me this works out to be very comfortable. Unfortunately with seats it's never a one size fits all. It can get expensive until you find a comfortable seat.

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Been away for a little and just saw your post. I'm west of you, out RT 460 near Zuni (which is west of Windsor by about 5 miles) I pass through Portsmouth every day on my way to/from work. I'll keep in touch about the seat, did you see the pic I posted of it? It looks like a really low seat. I have no idea if it would fit an '09. I guess Adventure BMW could tell you.

Good to know there's someone else nearby!
I was out by Windsor last Sunday on a ride. When you get the bike and have some time, if you still want to get a different seat for it, let me know. I got a Sergent low for mine and sold the oem seat. It's still a bit high for me since I'm inseam challenged so if there is a lower alternative out there, I would look at it.

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I have a 2012rt. Standard suspension. The standard height seat was just a tad to high for me. I'm 5'12" tall, oops I meant 6' tall with a 34" inseam. I purchased a BMW low seat and found the height much better. What BMW did was use the same seat pan for both seats and recontoured the cushion to make it a lower seat. This sacrificed comfort to achieve the lower height. The next seat I purchased and still ride with no issues is the OEM BMW one piece comfort seat. For me this works out to be very comfortable. Unfortunately with seats it's never a one size fits all. It can get expensive until you find a comfortable seat.
I'm surprised at your height/inseam that the standard seat was too high for you. I am 5'11" with a 32" inseam and I ran the standard seat on my 2005 RT in the High position to reduce the bend in my knees. I do the same on my 2016 RT with the Sargent Seat on it as I feel a bit cramped with the seat in the low position.

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I'm only 6'1" (or 5' 13") with a 32" inseam. I'm surprised the standard seat was too tall for you. Was it too wide?

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I was out by Windsor last Sunday on a ride. When you get the bike and have some time, if you still want to get a different seat for it, let me know. I got a Sergent low for mine and sold the oem seat. It's still a bit high for me since I'm inseam challenged so if there is a lower alternative out there, I would look at it.

Do you work over in Norfolk?
Yes, I'll keep that in mind, and yes I work in Norfolk on Hampton Blvd.

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I'm surprised at your height/inseam that the standard seat was too high for you. I am 5'11" with a 32" inseam and I ran the standard seat on my 2005 RT in the High position to reduce the bend in my knees. I do the same on my 2016 RT with the Sargent Seat on it as I feel a bit cramped with the seat in the low position.

Seats and ride height are definitely personal things.
Basically when I sit on the seat and both feet down I wasn't quite flat footed firmly on the ground. Sometimes I had to shift around to be fully planted on the ground. Kind of strange I know with a 34" inseam.
The low seat was perfect or at least where I was comfortable with the footing. The seat cushion was another story and that's why I now have and love the one piece BMW comfort seat. I really didn't want to buy new boots with a higher heel considering I don't look to good in pumps. LOL....

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The seat is a very personal item. No one seat is going to work for everyone. I would suggest waiting and see how comfortable or uncomfortable it is for you. You may find it's not just the height of the seat that will concern you. BMW seats have improved since my first R60/2 but I typically replace or rebuild the stock seat with a custom seat. I have the luxury of being within riding distance of two of the most popular saddle builders so I can ride in and get a truly custom seat trimmed to fit my very personal backside. It is possible to get a good seat by providing the various height and weight considerations the builder needs to make you comfy. If you don't currently ride with fellow RT owners do so. I know I would be happy to slap my seat on a fellow riders bike so they could try it out.
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Basically when I sit on the seat and both feet down I wasn't quite flat footed firmly on the ground. Sometimes I had to shift around to be fully planted on the ground. Kind of strange I know with a 34" inseam.

The low seat was perfect or at least where I was comfortable with the footing. The seat cushion was another story and that's why I now have and love the one piece BMW comfort seat. I really didn't want to buy new boots with a higher heel considering I don't look to good in pumps. LOL....
Also have a 34" inseam and purchased a new seat from Sargent (just the front half, not both halfs). Also installed foot lowering pegs. My issue is not the inability to stand flat on the ground, it is I'm now getting intermittent shooting pain in my hips during a ride (and no, I didn't look at replacing my hips.. ). Traded from a gs and did not have the pains. Looking at options to change up my riding position to avoid hip pain.

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Basically when I sit on the seat and both feet down I wasn't quite flat footed firmly on the ground. Sometimes I had to shift around to be fully planted on the ground. Kind of strange I know with a 34" inseam.
The low seat was perfect or at least where I was comfortable with the footing. The seat cushion was another story and that's why I now have and love the one piece BMW comfort seat. I really didn't want to buy new boots with a higher heel considering I don't look to good in pumps. LOL....
Ha ha, I'd never have a big bike if I had to have my feet flat. I'm 5'9 (31 inseam) and ride with the standard seat in the HIGH position on my 2017 wethead as I prefer the riding position. I'm on the balls of my feet at stoplights but never found that to be an issue. I do have to be careful if I need to back up. At uneven stops I just slide forward or a bit to one side if nec. The key is to not to get too far off balance, haha.

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Does anybody know if the front seat hardware (hardware attaching the front part of the seat near the gas tank) on a R1200 RTP is the same as the hardware on a R1200 RT? I need seat hardware for a seat I have bought and all I have found so far is for a RTP. I looked on Real OEM and didn't find the RTP so I don't know. Any help is appreciated!!!

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What hardware do you think you're missing? As far as I know the RT-P are the same in that respect but I could be wrong. As always, a picture (or three) is worth a thousand words.

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What hardware do you think you're missing? As far as I know the RT-P are the same in that respect but I could be wrong. As always, a picture (or three) is worth a thousand words.
Thanks Pappy53, I am probably getting ahead of myself as the bike hasn't even been delivered to me yet (expected Friday). But if you remember mine has the MTD, ultra low seat. It was my understanding (from somewhere) that this seat didn't employ this piece of the seat hardware. I'm probably wrong but I am just trying to get my ducks in a row for when it does arrive. My new (to me) seat will arrive tuesday with no hardware. I suppose the best route is to be patient and see on Friday what it does/does not have. The below pic is the assembly I'm talking about.
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I'm probably wrong but I am just trying to get my ducks in a row for when it does arrive. My new (to me) seat will arrive tuesday with no hardware. I suppose the best route is to be patient and see on Friday what it does/does not have. The below pic is the assembly I'm talking about.
The one piece seats are held in place at the front by the hooks you see in item #4 (green arrows). Two piece seats are attached at the front by the rubber bumpers (#6) on the rod (#3) which slip into the notch just ahead of the hooks and pull up up and are stowed below the hooks (see image) when not in use. In the picture you see where they go when not in use. As long as the previous owner didn't discard them all this should be there. If not, the parts are about $75.
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The one piece seats are held in place at the front by the hooks you see in item #4 (green arrows). Two piece seats are attached at the front by the rubber bumpers (#6) on the rod (#3) which slip into the notch just ahead of the hooks and pull up up and are stowed below the hooks (see image) when not in use. In the picture you see where they go when not in use. As long as the previous owner didn't discard them all this should be there. If not, the parts are about $75.
Thanks Pappy53, having a real picture of the pieces in place puts it in better perspective for me. When the cycle arrives Friday, I'll post a pic of what I have under the seat, and we can go from there. Thanks again.

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I had that picture from when I was working on seat alternatives. What seat did you get?

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It is the stock two piece seat. I have pics if needed. The only hardware I saw attached was the 2 plastic wedge shaped parts that attach to the front of the rear seat.

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It is the stock two piece seat. I have pics if needed. The only hardware I saw attached was the 2 plastic wedge shaped parts that attach to the front of the rear seat.
There are no attached parts to the two piece. All you need are those rubber mounts and rod in the picture I attached.

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There are no attached parts to the two piece. All you need are those rubber mounts and rod in the picture I attached.
Good. I think I can find that part. BMW would be glad to sell me one I'm sure! Below is a pic of the bottom of my *new* pillion seat. I thought I saw those parts attached but on second look... I don't see them.
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Oh right. I forgot about those plastic standoffs I mentioned earlier that you'll need for a two-piece if it doesn't come with them. Those are a must-have.

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Oh right. I forgot about those plastic standoffs I mentioned earlier that you'll need for a two-piece if it doesn't come with them. Those are a must-have.
Got my *new* seat in the mail today. Below are two pics of the bottoms. Looks like all the rubber snubbers and bits are in place. I'll have to wait for the bike to arrive to find out what else I need. Bad news about that though. Shipper called, he broke an axle on his truck so the bike won't be here till Tuesday... I guess I'll have more time to read my owners manual...
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