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post #1 of 38 Old Jul 12th, 2019, 12:28 pm Thread Starter
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'05 RT struck by lightning

as the title says, a bolt cam down a tree next to the bike.
Bike starts, runs and drives (without brake assist) with all lights except console.
-no instruments or computer display

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It probably blew the ECU, lighting can emit EMP if its close enough.

Call your insurance, it should be covered if you have full coverage. Actually looks like comprehensive insurance might also cover "act of god" claims, which typically have a pretty low deductible.
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Actually looks like comprehensive insurance might also cover "act of god" claims, which typically have a pretty low deductible.
It would be the comprehensive component, and the deductible is whatever you chose it to be when you bought the policy.

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A Piedmont red 2005 RT? It is worth getting it repaired!


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No insurance on the bike, and I fix them myself, just out of my element on this one?
I guess there are not any folks like me in this forum?
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Usually with things like this, all you need to do is to check the PS Eye's in the tires and the bike's air filter. Some have found that adding FDIC Blue tint #43.5 to the heat transfer fluid in the circulation system to work wonders.

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Usually with things like this, all you need to do is to check the PS Eye's in the tires and the bike's air filter. Some have found that adding FDIC Blue tint #43.5 to the heat transfer fluid in the circulation system to work wonders.
I like humor as much as the next guy, maybe even more. I come in asking for a little help, and any ideas, and Kabish is the only guy that gives me anything? Do you folks treat all your new members the same way, or I am just dealing with a handful of dicks?

BTW, thank you Kabish!
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If the engine runs, it's probably not the ECU. Does ABS work? What else is inop, or is it just the gauges? Plenty of great guys on here ready to help. Maybe someone close to you has a GS911 and can look at codes. That would be the best starting point. It's definitely worth fixing. How many miles are on the bike?

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I have nothing to add that hasn't already been said. Call your insurance company.

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If the engine runs, it's probably not the ECU. Does ABS work? What else is inop, or is it just the gauges? Plenty of great guys on here ready to help. Maybe someone close to you has a GS311 and can look at codes. That would be the best starting point. It's definitely worth fixing. How many miles are on the bike?
Thanks minirips2, I figured there would be somebody that could help brainstorm, thanks for stepping up. I do plan to pull codes next week, and I will give you more detail in the meantime.

-bike starts and runs
-brake servos (assist) do not work, so I am assuming ABS is not working either?
-brakes work, but not well (squeeze harder)
-so instrument lights, cluster, and display do not work.
-Display does work when stereo is turned on, but only displays stereo info.

That is about all I have till next week, and will post results (hopefully I can get codes with questionable digital system?
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I like humor as much as the next guy, maybe even more. I come in asking for a little help, and any ideas, and Kabish is the only guy that gives me anything? Do you folks treat all your new members the same way, or I am just dealing with a handful of dicks?

BTW, thank you Kabish!
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I like humor as much as the next guy, maybe even more. I come in asking for a little help, and any ideas, and Kabish is the only guy that gives me anything? Do you folks treat all your new members the same way, or I am just dealing with a handful of dicks?

BTW, thank you Kabish!
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After being a forum member for less than 6 weeks, started 2 threads but not contributed elsewhere, it's probably a bit early for you to have an opinion on the rest of us.
Take a few deep breaths, sort through you current problem (with a little help form us) and come to value this forum. In time you'll even come to appreciate N00bie RT Gawd.

Please let us know how you go with your lightning strike problem. It is an unusual one.

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Sure Ian, my reply might have sounded harsh, and I always assume any community is made up of mostly awesome people (usually lightly sprinkled with dicks) I was surprised with the larger sprinkle. My bad. Hopefully ,I will have something to contribute in the future (besides my disappointment) I just wanted to make sure I was in the right place. From the PM I just read I will be taking a deep breath, while I sort thru the problem. Thanks to all willing to help.
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As best I can tell, lots of BMW LT experience but limited RT, you have a Kombi controller for the dash and the brain in the ABS unit and both could have been fried by the bolt. Either can be expensive to replace. Also check all your fuses with a good meter as many may have blown out as well. Time to look for a wrecked bike for parts.

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I have now owned my RT for less than two years, but I have probably ridden it less than some of you ride in a month. This thread topic has ignited my curiosity. I believe if I were affected by having my bike (investment) injured by such an incident, I too would be not too amused at others taking it so lightly and responding with flippant humor.

Unless someone has commented while I was composing this post, I have seen no mention of connecting a GS911 diagnostic tool. It would be interesting to see what a diagnostic report would reveal. Another question to the owner would be have you disconnected and reconnected the battery? Wonder if doing so would do any kind of "reset," for the computer? Please let us know as you work through solving the issues. It could provide all of us with valuable insight once all the after affects are all sorted out.
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No fuses on an RT all canbus. Going to be tuff to sort out. Good luck
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I am planning on pulling codes (hopefully) this week. I did try battery disconnect u successfully, and still hoping for a easy and cheap solution. I will document the journey.
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Hi Don.
I understand your frustration. However, I don't think this is the best forum for technical help. Can I suggest you post across on the BMWST forum. The forum knowledge for your particular RT year will be much more focussed.
https://www.bmwsporttouring.com/forum/35-hexheads/
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Sure Ian, my reply might have sounded harsh, and I always assume any community is made up of mostly awesome people (usually lightly sprinkled with dicks) I was surprised with the larger sprinkle. My bad. Hopefully ,I will have something to contribute in the future (besides my disappointment) I just wanted to make sure I was in the right place. From the PM I just read I will be taking a deep breath, while I sort thru the problem. Thanks to all willing to help.
Who's the dick, poster, or NOObie, helpful longtime member? I'm going with poster that just got here and has no idea who people are.

Nice first impression by the way. The folks over at BMWST might be more your speed.
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I understand your frustration. However, I don't think this is the best forum for technical help. Can I suggest you post across on the BMWST forum. The forum knowledge for your particular RT year will be much more focussed.
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Who's the dick, poster, or NOObie, helpful longtime member? I'm going with poster that just got here and has no idea who people are.

Nice first impression by the way. The folks over at BMWST might be more your speed.

Well...out of curiosity, I am wondering how many of us are members of multiple BMW forums? During my initial quest for a BMW motorcycle, I first joined the BMW chromeheads forum because, knowing I was going for a "USED" BMW...I was drawn to the odd limited years of production BMW cruisers. Not until I purchased my RT, did I discover and subsequently join this forum. So...after seeing the above link, I have joined a third forum? I have yet to join any of the BMW Owner's clubs. I already pay dues to a club of one particular make of vintage automobiles to which I have belonged for over four decades. If I joined and paid dues to the special interests organizations of all the "old iron" crap I have...I probably wouldn't have any money left to enjoy them.

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Geez...you guys really know how to make a guy feel welcome. You got Mr. Bipolar pops in and takes dump in a new guy's thread looking for help and some of you feel the need to pig-pile on him because he complains about it? <facepalm>
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Who's the dick, poster, or NOObie, helpful longtime member? I'm going with poster that just got here and has no idea who people are.
...says the guy with a whopping 60 posts to his credit.

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Hey bandytales, thanks for the heads up on the other tech forum. I will probably post over there too because you can never have too many brains for your knowledge base.
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Now as far as many of the other responses, I will say that you reap what you sow. If you welcome dysfunction, disrespectful behavior, and anarchy, that is what you will become. One good thing to do is read back through the initial posts. You will see a bunch of cats responding but not really answering anything. Nothing even remotely helpful with responses like " call your insurance".... My favorite response being, and I am paraphrasing"I have nothing to add, so I will add the same nothingness that has been suggested already". Now if you think that I am being sensitive, or that I haven't been a member long enough to have an opinion of other members, that is a legitimate objection. However, I have been a member of enough communities, and the founder and creator of enough communities to see trouble on the horizon. Since managing several volatile communities myself over the past decade, I have seen quite a few dissolve when they failed to welcome and encourage new membership appropriately. I do understand human psychology, territorial behavior, and tribalism quite well. I think there are good and bad things from these behaviors. As long as you recognize the bad and try to control, to some extent, the bad behaviors, your community will continue to grow and thrive. If you only encourage the tribalism and passive aggressive behaviors, you will only keep a few of the members you have currently. I Could be wrong?

Maybe this is a chance to learn about more than just what a lightning bolt can do to a motorcycle?
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...says the guy with a whopping 60 posts to his credit.
Not that it matters but a bunch of us had to re-join a few years ago after the site got hacked, I've been here for over 10 years.

BMWST is a dying board but they do have a lot of info on old bikes like yours. I joined in 2007 after buying Jeff Deans used 05 RT. The one in the picture above. It was an oil burning POS but I loved it.

You come to a new place, ask for help, and then call us dicks. I would have brushed it off until I got to know my surroundings. It's just being courteous.

Get insurance and stop riding illegally.
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BMWST is a dying board.
You have got to be joking.

It is one of the most 'together', technically knowledgeable, polite forums I have ever stumbled across.
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You come to a new place, ask for help, and then call us dicks. I would have brushed it off until I got to know my surroundings. It's just being courteous.

Get insurance and stop riding illegally.
If you assumed that I was calling the entire board dicks because of a couple of posts, then that is a very good example of tribalism. This board is quite obviously not made up entirely of dicks because of the overwhelming private response I have had, mostly pointing out the dickish behavior and confirming my suspicions. If you want to be butthurt you will be butt hurt. If you feel like your comments in this thread we're dickish, then I was talking to you. If you did not post before my comment, then you should feel certain I am not talking to you or about you. If you are defending dickish behavior then you are part of the problem.

There are a couple of states that do not require insurance. I am a resident of one of them. Probably would not have comprehensive insurance on this bike anyway even if I chose to insure it. Talk about assumptions huh?
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As to who is right, or wrong, or how we should respond to any given poster is irrelevant. Can we concentrate on how to help Don.
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You have got to be joking. It is one of the most 'together', technically knowledgeable, polite forums I have ever stumbled across.
I didn't say they were bad, it's just that after Fernando took over things went downhill. I suggested BMWST because we are known as Mr. Rogers Neighborhood.

If you have an old bike it's great but there isn't much activity on the newer LC's. Yes, back in the day we would fill up small towns with the UN. 150 bikes or more and not all BMW's. Again, yes, lots of great, respectful members. Whip owns the board now so we'll see what happens. He's not a BMW guy but respects the history of the site. A lot of us cross the county just to meet up for a few days.
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Dirt Rider on BMWST will have all the answers for you. He's a BMW tech that answers everyone's questions.

Your part of the reason I have to buy Uninsured Motorist insurance then.

It's easy to put the 'dicks' on ignore so you won't have to deal with all those unhelpful answers.
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I didn't say they were bad, it's just that after Fernando took over things went downhill. I suggested BMWST because we are known as Mr. Rogers Neighborhood.

If you have an old bike it's great but there isn't much activity on the newer LC's. Yes, back in the day we would fill up small towns with the UN. 150 bikes or more and not all BMW's. Again, yes, lots of great, respectful members. Whip owns the board now so we'll see what happens. He's not a BMW guy but respects the history of the site. A lot of us cross the county just to meet up for a few days.
On the bike specific BMWST forum, there is a huge depth of knowledge (maybe only by a few people, but that is valuable and quick responding knowledge). That means you can generally get to the crux of the matter way quicker. And although I really enjoy this BMWLT board, I have not seen the same technical skills constantly available. So, that is the joy of having one source available to us to ask questions.
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Florida and Washington are the two states that don't require it, which is interesting info, never knew that. If you travel as much as your channel shows though not having insurance is soooooooooo risky. I guess since you live "off grid" that removes a lot of the risk from you I suppose... /shrug
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...Your part of the reason I have to buy Uninsured Motorist insurance then. ...
Liability insurance (aka paying for someone else's stuff that you've damaged) is usually required.

Comprehensive insurance (aka paying for your own stuff if it gets damaged by you, someone else who is un/under insured, or other causes) is usually only required if you have a lien on the vehicle.

I don't think that Don was specific about which insurance he doesn't have, so I took that to mean the Comprehensive portion.


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phew.....at least jeffdean was able to squeeze in another picture of his bikes. <----- dick comment

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Hey bandytales, thanks for the heads up on the other tech forum. I will probably post over there too because you can never have too many brains for your knowledge base.
Yes, Andy gave you good direction. I am also a member of that forum, along with Adventure Rider, but the last one will be too broad for you. When you get on BMWST, make sure that you post your issue in the right section. Hexhead is the 1200RT from '05 - '09, camhead is '10 - '13, and wethead is '14 - '18. Before anyone pipe up, I am talking about RTs. I know that the wethead GS started in '13. BTW, the 1250s are called shiftcam!

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BMWST is a dying board but they do have a lot of info on old bikes like yours. I joined in 2007 after buying Jeff Deans used 05 RT. The one in the picture above. It was an oil burning POS but I loved it.

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phew.....at least jeffdean was able to squeeze in another picture of his bikes. <----- dick comment
Now THAT was funny!!! Thanks for the help guys.
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