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2020 R1250RT Colors Announced

BMW has issued a press release detailing the color changes for the 2020 R1250RT.

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BMW R 1250 RT.

New paint finish Option 719 Blue planet metallic/Ivory.
New paint finish Option 719 Stardust metallic.
New paint finish Manhattan metallic (Style Elegance).
The colours Option 719 Blue planet metallic, Option 719 Sparkling storm metallic and Carbon black metallic (Style Elegance) will no longer be available.
New Option 719 seat dark brown.
Option 719 seats saddle brown and dark brown can now be ordered for all colours/styles.

Complete press release shows pictures: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...odel-year-2020

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Re: (LED headlamp for the R 1250 GS as standard and LED daytime riding light for both models as an ex works optional equipment item.

The new R 1250 GS now features the LED headlamp as standard. In addition to this, the LED daytime riding light is available as an optional equipment item for both the R 1250 GS and the R 1250 RT, which has halogen headlamps.)

Per their content, no LED headlights or TFT for 2020 RT ??!!!

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New 2020 colors.
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So, it doesn't state which "regular" colors are there for 2020 outside of Manhattan. Is Alpine White and Mars red gone then?
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Only the Option 719 colors are changing and also adding Manhattan. No mention of dropping Alpine White or Mars Red so maybe they stay.

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New paint finish Option 719 Blue planet metallic/Ivory.
New paint finish Option 719 Stardust metallic.
New paint finish Manhattan metallic (Style Elegance).
The colours Option 719 Blue planet metallic, Option 719 Sparkling storm metallic and Carbon black metallic (Style Elegance) will no longer be available.
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Only the Option 719 colors are changing and also adding Manhattan. No mention of dropping Alpine White or Mars Red so maybe they stay.

The colours Option 719 Blue planet metallic, Option 719 Sparkling storm metallic and Carbon black metallic (Style Elegance) will no longer be available.
Not so. You will see that they are also dropping the Carbon Black (a non 719 colour).

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Not so. You will see that they are also dropping the Carbon Black (a non 719 colour).
To be exact, the "Style Elegance" package color is changing from Carbon Black (Style Elegance) to Manhattan metallic (Style Elegance). It seems that every color but Alpine is part of a "package."

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Absolutely!

They must have a bunch of RT headlights to use up to delay it another year? I say that in jest but maybe not, same for the dash and no TFT. I mean what other reason to not have those items on unless it is a stock thing?

Makes no sense as that will make at least three model years on the GS with a LED headlight, and not on their sport tourer? And I do not understand no TFT either? I guess they dont want to sell RT motorcycles.

Or you will end up with a bastard bike like mine which is why they call it a 17.5 as it was made in the last half of the year and has options(cornering ABS) and minor bodywork changes of the 18 but is titled as a 17. Guess they ran out of 17 year parts so I got a deal on that one
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I'm really surprised that Jeff Dean hasn't stopped by to mention his Marino Red bikes...
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maybe the colors of the old R90. Sunburst orange and black smoke one. Also the smoked red RS
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I like this smoked green colour, even more than the 'Iconic' red!
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Absolutely!

They must have a bunch of RT headlights to use up to delay it another year? I say that in jest but maybe not, same for the dash and no TFT. I mean what other reason to not have those items on unless it is a stock thing?

Makes no sense as that will make at least three model years on the GS with a LED headlight, and not on their sport tourer? And I do not understand no TFT either? I guess they dont want to sell RT motorcycles.

Or you will end up with a bastard bike like mine which is why they call it a 17.5 as it was made in the last half of the year and has options(cornering ABS) and minor bodywork changes of the 18 but is titled as a 17. Guess they ran out of 17 year parts so I got a deal on that one
Just to be pedantic, the 1250 does have a tft screen, not the same as the GS, bur they changed the LCD screen to TFT, or so their marketing says and some bits are laid our differently
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Just to be pedantic, the 1250 does have a tft screen, not the same as the GS, bur they changed the LCD screen to TFT, or so their marketing says and some bits are laid our differently
To be honest I like the TFT but a lot of people are/were having issues with them. I am told they are hard to maneuver through the menus ans stuff is buried. I did not want one anyway.

The surprise is no LED headlight. That is a biggie on all around appeal of the bike. Plus it is a safety thing also.

Most of you guys been around BMW way longer than me and if you guys cant figure out what they are thinking I surely have no idea.
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I like this smoked green colour, even more than the 'Iconic' red!
Not bad! Where did that come from? I still like the smoke red better. The green is just too close to the Kawasaki green, which I don't like.

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Just to be pedantic, the 1250 does have a tft screen, not the same as the GS, bur they changed the LCD screen to TFT, or so their marketing says and some bits are laid our differently
Yep, just like the one that we have now, on our wethead RTs. Great improvement over the old LCD, and personally, I like what we have. However, newer things are always nice to play with.

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Yep, just like the one that we have now, on our wethead RTs. Great improvement over the old LCD, and personally, I like what we have. However, newer things are always nice to play with.
Well according to the BMW tech, the screen is different to the one on my old 2014 wet head, it looks the same to me, but has a different layout for some of the things like suspension setup and heated grips display. They announced it was TFT in the 1250 launch. Think it was marketing rubbish.

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Yep, just like the one that we have now, on our wethead RTs. Great improvement over the old LCD, and personally, I like what we have. However, newer things are always nice to play with.
I like the current RTW screen just fine. With the big digital speedo I rarely even glance at the analog speedo. I do prefer a big analog tach and the RT's is great.

I wouldn't want the new GS screen on an RT, although I'm sure its on its way on the next major RT makeover. Its graphic design and colors are too garish IMO. All I need is the RT's clear digital speedo, analog tach, TPM numbers, and grip heat level always visible and I'm good.
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Well according to the BMW tech, the screen is different to the one on my old 2014 wet head,
You know, The 1200 Wethead and the 1250 Wethead dash is sufficiently similar to call it 'the same'.
I am perfectly happy with it. I don't get glare, I can adjust it too. I can see all the information I need (too much to be honest).
I really think this is a fashion thing.
The headlight, handling suppleness, bodywork removal etc is indeed something that I am disappointed that it hasn't changed at all / significantly.
I am glad they didn't change the shape of the bike though.

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I like the current RTW screen just fine. With the big digital speedo I rarely even glance at the analog speedo. I do prefer a big analog tach and the RT's is great.

I wouldn't want the new GS screen on an RT, although I'm sure its on its way on the next major RT makeover. Its graphic design and colors are too garish IMO. All I need is the RT's clear digital speedo, analog tach, TPM numbers, and grip heat level always visible and I'm good.
I agree on all of that. Love the current setup with real gauges supplemented by rider selectable info screens. We are drowning in TFT screens now, witness the giant ones in newer high end cars. When I'm driving I prefer real knobs and gauges thank you. I don't want a touchscreen.

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Well according to the BMW tech, the screen is different to the one on my old 2014 wet head, it looks the same to me, but has a different layout for some of the things like suspension setup and heated grips display. They announced it was TFT in the 1250 launch. Think it was marketing rubbish.
The different in menu layout doen't surprise me at all. I was referring to the general appearance, as compared to the changes that were made to the wethead GS/GSA.


The only confirmed new things for the 2020 RT is just the color. Nothing beyond that, officially yet.

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The only confirmed new things for the 2020 RT is just the color. Nothing beyond that, officially yet.
7 years without a major overall redesign seems like a long time to me, but I guess the 05-13 RT design lived for 9 model years.

One consistency is that a top box from a 2005 will fit a 2020!

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I like this smoked green colour, even more than the 'Iconic' red!
Before coming over to the spinning propeller, I rode Kawasaki's exclusively, but the last two I owned, 2005 ZX-10R and 2008 C14, were so bad that I got out of riding for several years before jumping back in in 2017.

Your picture has gotten me to thinking about repainting the bike, but instead of a "Kawasaki green" or the shade you have shown, I am thinking of the Black Forest Pearl of my 2016 Honda Pilot- it's a beautiful dark green metallic that can look black or green, depending on the light.
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To be honest I like the TFT but a lot of people are/were having issues with them. I am told they are hard to maneuver through the menus ans stuff is buried. I did not want one anyway.

The surprise is no LED headlight. That is a biggie on all around appeal of the bike. Plus it is a safety thing also.

Most of you guys been around BMW way longer than me and if you guys cant figure out what they are thinking I surely have no idea.

The thing I been noticing is this: everyone has LED on their vehicle nowadays, and when an older vehicle comes at me with them opaque worn out yellow-white lights, they seem to stand out.

Personally, I never liked them European style clear lenses neither on the turn signals nor on the brakes. It was better when the lenses covers where yellow or red respectively.

The good thing about LED is the economy of voltage draw. On the other hand, I don't think any canbus sys will feature extra voltage for farkelizing...most likely, it 'll work to save them manufacturing cost and the sys wont allow for excess--just like it is now
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The thing I been noticing is this: everyone has LED on their vehicle nowadays, and when an older vehicle comes at me with them opaque worn out yellow-white lights, they seem to stand out.

Personally, I never liked them European style clear lenses neither on the turn signals nor on the brakes. It was better when the lenses covers where yellow or red respectively.

The good thing about LED is the economy of voltage draw. On the other hand, I don't think any canbus sys will feature extra voltage for farkelizing...most likely, it 'll work to save them manufacturing cost and the sys wont allow for excess--just like it is now
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It may be to hit Euro 5 as I guess generating electric does consume resources and has a carbon output associated with it on top of the motor energy.

I am also with you on colored lens. I guess it is cheaper to do them all in clear?

I am also wondering if this is leading to the shorter battery life I have watched over the last 30 years? I mean I used to run a bike battery 5,6,7 years no issue. Now talk and "advise" is to change them out at 3 years! BS something has changed.

Am I an ostrich with my head in the sand and ignoring this built in obsolescence that we have been forced to come and accept?
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Am I an ostrich with my head in the sand and ignoring this built in obsolescence that we have been forced to come and accept?
Painful isn't it. I do love my bikes, but really struggle with the 'throw away' society I am subscribing into!
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Re my comment : (having a small portion of those outside corners shaved off, to make it easier to get leg/foot down on stops, without having to side so far forward !)

I called RDL and found out there are small metal coil springs imbedded under the foam on those outside corners, and if you cut 1/2” or so into the foam in that area, you will contact the spring. So I will not be modifying the outside corners during recover.

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Not just our bikes but cars and motorcycles have cut stater or generator output considerable over the years. Not sure why this is?

It may be to hit Euro 5 as I guess generating electric does consume resources and has a carbon output associated with it on top of the motor energy.

I am also with you on colored lens. I guess it is cheaper to do them all in clear?

I am also wondering if this is leading to the shorter battery life I have watched over the last 30 years? I mean I used to run a bike battery 5,6,7 years no issue. Now talk and "advise" is to change them out at 3 years! BS something has changed.

Am I an ostrich with my head in the sand and ignoring this built in obsolescence that we have been forced to come and accept?
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Painful isn't it. I do love my bikes, but really struggle with the 'throw away' society I am subscribing into!

A lot of writers...Toffler, Huxley, Meiler and other futurists of long-past literature predicted an age of 'disposibility' brought about by the influx of technology. Along with that, an age of consumerism; predicting a society becoming 'depersonalized' and 'objectified'.

If you ever talked to a robotic voice on a phone menu, you are getting what was predicted by these great writers.
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I meant the paint job. I haven't seen green here in the states. I figured you had it painted.

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I meant the paint job. I haven't seen green here in the states. I figured you had it painted.
Sorry Ponch, totally mis-understood you.
I have no idea how much it cost. I saw the bike advertised and I was really taken by that colour. It would be good for BMW to do some real colour choices.

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I meant the paint job. I haven't seen green here in the states. I figured you had it painted.
To have all the painted parts on a wethead or oilhead RT removed by a BMW dealer, sent out to a fine painter, and replaced by a BMW dealer would cost you about $3,000.

If you can remove and replace all the painted parts yourself, all it would cost you would be the painting.

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Sorry Ponch, totally mis-understood you.
I have no idea how much it cost. I saw the bike advertised and I was really taken by that colour. It would be good for BMW to do some real colour choices.
The green is a sharp color for sure. For some reason some HD folks warn about green bikes. Say it's bad luck. I have no idea why. Kawasaki had a nice green on their 1999 Nomad. I just don't see that green often on bikes. Yours comes close.

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To have all the painted parts on a wethead or oilhead RT removed by a BMW dealer, sent out to a fine painter, and replaced by a BMW dealer would cost you about $3,000.

If you can remove and replace all the painted parts yourself, all it would cost you would be the painting.
Maybe in the next life.

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I had a green Harley for a couple of years, luck was fine
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I am sure it was, just don't know where that belief comes from.

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