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I'm a long-time LT rider-over 200K on my 2000, and it's in great shape. I love the horn on the LT, and just last month picked up a 2010 RT, which I am quickly learning to love. All but the horn, that is. It's really wimpy. Has anyone simply added an LT horn to the RT? I'd love to have that same attention grabbing feature, instead of the polite little beep beep.

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Use a Denali air horn. Very easy to install

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I used the Stebel horn on all my 2015-2019 RTs. Available on Amazon.

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Jeff, that location won't work on a Camhead RT but there is a spot under the left side cheek cowling that's perfect. On a Camhead the bracket mount you used is oriented transversely so the horn won't fit between the fork tubes like they do on a Wethead.

I have a Denali Soundbomb and it'll make even the most hardened distracted driver soil their pants.

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Denali soundbomb for me too. It will wake the dead


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I had an aftermarket airhorn of some sort on my bike, however it was shorting out and would only go off every now and the. So the dealership took it off and put on some type of other horn, no idea what it is, guessing its factory, but its pretty damn loud. This is when I was buying the bike btw...

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I put a horn from an '05 RT on my 2012; much louder and plug 'n play. Part number: 61 33 2 346 554
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I installed a BMW car horn (420 Hz low tone) on my GTLE as a direct replacement for the stock beep beep horn. Bought it off of eBay for less than $20, but Amazon carries them for about $30. Manufacturer is Vemo and part number is V20-77-0005.

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I used the Stebel horn on all my 2015-2019 RTs. Available on Amazon.

Looked on your web page and it looks like you bought Stebel 11690019 - Nautilus Compact Mini Air Horn Black?
My question is did you install a relay or just hook it up to the existing wiring?

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Looked on your web page and it looks like you bought Stebel 11690019 - Nautilus Compact Mini Air Horn Black?
My question is did you install a relay or just hook it up to the existing wiring?
You MUST use a relay, or you will trip the electronic CB for the horn, and nothing in that circuit will work.

If you want to avoid ZFE error messages, leave the standard beetle-fart horn wired in as well.

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Looked on your web page and it looks like you bought Stebel 11690019 - Nautilus Compact Mini Air Horn Black?
My question is did you install a relay or just hook it up to the existing wiring?
I did the same on my 2012. I used a relay and removed OEM horn. The fault you get for the horn only shows up when you read the faults on your GS911 or at BMW dealer. Not an issue.
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I put a horn from an '05 RT on my 2012; much louder and plug 'n play. Part number: 61 33 2 346 554
I wonder if this would be a plug 'n play on a wethead without triggering faults....


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I wonder if this would be a plug 'n play on a wethead without triggering faults....
Looking at the part image (Google the number) it appears to be a biscuit horn just like the so-called "beetle-fart" one that came on mine.

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According to the online parts fiche, these are the one's for an -05 to -09 but I think that harness has two pigtails, one for each horn. Also, the current draw would be larger if you're installing them on a bike delivered with the single beetle fart biscuit horn harness and thus might still trip the circuit breaker.

I like dual-tone horns like this because they are instantaneous. Air horns have a very small delay. It's almost imperceptible, if had to guess maybe 50-100 microseconds, so I'm not going to change back now but it is something to consider.
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thanks for so many jumping in. I'm curious about the LT because it is two horns, not the one. And I love the idea of plug/play.

I'm working this out, but so appreciative for the advice. I do find it disappointing that a simple solution to a safety item like a loud horn isn't more standard.

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I'm working this out, but so appreciative for the advice. I do find it disappointing that a simple solution to a safety item like a loud horn isn't more standard.

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My new at the time, GTL had a moped horn and it was one of the first things I fixed. The LT did have a great horn from the factory.

My new Subaru Forester also had a moped horn and that too was quickly fixed. Don't know what's with these manufactures and their weak horns. For me, it's a safety issue..

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My new at the time, GTL had a moped horn and it was one of the first things I fixed. The LT did have a great horn from the factory.

My new Subaru Forester also had a moped horn and that too was quickly fixed. Don't know what's with these manufactures and their weak horns. For me, it's a safety issue..
Actually, the LT has great horns. It is the dual tone auto style horns that makes it so effective.
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A It is the dual tone auto style horns that makes it so effective.
Yep my 1150RT had twin horns as standard and sounded lovely.
I guess it is a weight / cost thing.
I am surprised BMW doesn't sell [tongue-in-cheek] (as an option), loud horns, in the same way as when the 1100RT was being sold, you could buy a 'comfort seat'. I mean, why should you need to buy a comfort seat, is should have a comfort seat as standard! Likewise, these bikes should have loud horns as standard!

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BMW should install seriously loud horns as stock on their new RTs (see Stebels)

BMW should install stock COMFORTABLE LEATHER saddles on their new RTs. (see RDLs).

BMW should offer stock or as options bright driving lights (see Clearwaters).

BMW should offer optional windshields of various heights (see Werks).

BMW's stock brake lights should flash (see Clearwater Billies or Hyper Lites).

BMW should provide Navigator GPSs on RTs that lock in place.

BMW should give TWO fobs with new RTs, not just one.
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Yep my 1150RT had twin horns as standard and sounded lovely.
I guess it is a weight / cost thing.
I am surprised BMW doesn't sell [tongue-in-cheek] (as an option), loud horns, in the same way as when the 1100RT was being sold, you could buy a 'comfort seat'. I mean, why should you need to buy a comfort seat, is should have a comfort seat as standard! Likewise, these bikes should have loud horns as standard!
Yes, the horns on the LT really impressed me the first time I used them ... and the mechanic doing my initial state inspection. We were in his garage (concrete block with no sound insulation) and he asked me to hit the horn. He and I both about jumped out of our skin. Man it was loud in that garage!

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BMW should offer stock or as options bright driving lights (see Clearwaters).
When I was at the dealer waiting for service on my bike, I looked at the 2 new ShiftCams they had. Both were fully loaded (which I would want). But the new package automatically includes the BMW spot lights. Those just aren't as good as my Darla's. I'd have to ask the dealer to remove those if I were to buy a new bike. They just aren't worth it to me. They need to be dimmable like the Clearwaters.
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BMW should install stock COMFORTABLE LEATHER saddles on their new RTs. .

Not for me Jeff. The thought of a soggy leather seat taking days to dry out. It is bad enough with shoes, but sitting on a steaming damp saddle really is horrible. No, a nice comfortable vinyl one that I can just walk out after the rain, wipe it dry and then ride away. That's the one for me. However, it SHOULD be comfortable.
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BMW should install seriously loud horns as stock on their new RTs (see Stebels)

BMW should install stock COMFORTABLE LEATHER saddles on their new RTs. (see RDLs).

BMW should offer stock or as options bright driving lights (see Clearwaters).

BMW should offer optional windshields of various heights (see Werks).

BMW's stock brake lights should flash (see Clearwater Billies or Hyper Lites).

BMW should provide Navigator GPSs on RTs that lock in place.

BMW should give TWO fobs with new RTs, not just one.
Comfortable, yes. Leather, no. I am not a fair weather rider and leather is not good when wet.

I personally prefer to have the options so I can choose what I want.

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Not for me Jeff. The thought of a soggy leather seat taking days to dry out. It is bad enough with shoes, but sitting on a steaming damp saddle really is horrible. No, a nice comfortable vinyl one that I can just walk out after the rain, wipe it dry and then ride away. That's the one for me. However, it SHOULD be comfortable.
Ah, well, I would not like soggy saddles either. Have you tried waterproof covers for your leather saddles? They come with RDL saddles.
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So have a leather saddle, then carry around a waterproof cover in case it rains, which it does a lot in Europe. Seems like a complete pain to me. I'm happy with non leather, but then again, I'm happy with the grey nose on my Mars Red 1250, so each to their own
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Comfortable, yes. Leather, no. I am not a fair weather rider and leather is not good when wet.

I personally prefer to have the options so I can choose what I want.
Nikwax.
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The RDL on my 07RT has just under 150K on it and it's never been a problem in the rain.
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The RDL on my 07RT has just under 150K on it and it's never been a problem in the rain.
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I am seriously looking at adding a Stebel horn (or another loud obnoxious one) on my K1300GT, since I already have a lot of the panels off already. My question is, it looks like you would have to completely remove the right-side plastic panel in order to do this, the one with the compartment storage. I don't see a way around it. Is this what others (with the K1300GT) have done? Thanks.
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I went ahead and got the horn. I have all of the panels off and accessed the factory horn wires and tapped into them since I didn't want to cut them. I get absolutely nothing from either wire with a tester to trigger the relay, whether it's plugged back into the factory horn or not. New Horn works but no way to trigger the relay with the factory horn button. Has anyone run into this problem before and gotten results? I'm dumbfounded. Thanks.
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Do you have the relay hooked up to the battery and the other two wire plugged in the horn?

Red from battery to relay. Other red to horn. Black wire from horn to frame.
Yellow both go to relay then the stock plug that was plugged into the original horn.

I bought this kit. The pre-cut wiring was a little spendy but it fix perfect. The L bracket was a must have to mount the horn...

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