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I don't believe I received a plastic back-up key with my 2015 like I did with my 2012? Did BMW discontinue this act? If so, I'd like to get another key for my bike - how does one go about that?

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Re: Back up key?

Received the "chipped" plastic Key with the fob plus the codes for re-keying if lost when I purchased my "New" '18 from a local dealer.

I believe if you need a key, the code(s) have to be sent to BMW USA for authorization from a local dealer.
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Watching with interest. I had a plastic key with my 2005, then when I upgraded to a 2014 LC (second hand) there wasn’t one. I assumed they’d stopped doing it. Wish I’d have asked the seller now.


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I was given one with my 2017 that I bought used this year.
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I received two remotes and a plastic key with my '18 RT. My buddy received only one remote plus the plastic key for his '19 RT. The salesman who did the deal on both bikes told me that I was mistaken, and that BMW only provides one remote for the RT LC's.
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I received one key fob and the plastic backup key with my new demo 2018 from MAX BMW. Was told only 1 fob and the plastic key came with the bike, though based on my overall experience with that dealer location, in my opinion anything I was told is suspect.
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My 16 came with one FOB and one Plastic key.

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So with my 2014 non keyless ignition, I received two keys and two fobs. With keyless you now only get on keyless fob and the plastic key. With my new 1250, one keyless fob and one plastic key. To buy another fob for the bike has to come from BMW in the UK and costs £193, how do I know, I bought one, but they couldn't get it to work, so I returned it and got my money back
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Re: Back up key?

All I can say is my recent experience proves you BETTER carry your backup key when you travel. Always have and always will.

Lost my fob on the way to the rally. What a pita the plastic key is to use. However it saved me from being stranded.

I have two fobs, a plastic emergency key and a metal key. I use the metal key to take my GPS out of the lock and to open my saddle bags and remove seats. I did not like using the fob for fear of braking it.

So I carry a fob and the plastic key and my metal key is always on my key ring when I travel. Without that emergency key I would have been stuck for a few days in TN while whatever dealer ordered it.

Make sure you have a spare electronic key when traveling or life could get pretty nasty for a bit.

189 for a fob so a bit of a expensive loss.

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Re: Back up key?

Both my '15 and '17 have keyless ride and came with plastic keys.

I'm going to put my key in my wife's top case, and hers in my top case. When we're on long trips, we take the top case. So that way I won't forget the spare keys.
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Re: Back up key?

Does your 2015 have the fob? If so, I recommend you buy a back up fob.

My 2015, 2017, and 2019 RTs all came with plastic back-up keys. I also bought second fobs for all of them.

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Re: Back up key?

I'll check with the dealer to see if they'll do anything for me since my bike didn't come with the plastic backup key. They'll probably make me shell out the cash for a duplicate fob, but we'll see. Thanks for the insight, folks!

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Re: Back up key?

My 2012 didn't come with the plastic key as well. You can buy a key, have it cut but not programmed. This is a much less expensive option.
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Both my '15 and '17 have keyless ride and came with plastic keys.

I'm going to put my key in my wife's top case, and hers in my top case. When we're on long trips, we take the top case. So that way I won't forget the spare keys.
Be careful that you don't park the bikes too close to each other. The fob in the top case will be communicating with the other bike, which will prematurely deplete the battery in the fob. Nothing worse than pulling out the replacement fob and finding out it doesn't work because the battery is dead.
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Be careful that you don't park the bikes too close to each other. The fob in the top case will be communicating with the other bike, which will prematurely deplete the battery in the fob. Nothing worse than pulling out the replacement fob and finding out it doesn't work because the battery is dead.
Exactly! I came home to my spare fob, went to the bike and tried it and no go. I needed a new battery.

As far as the spare key carry, I wrap my key in tinfoil when I give it to Patricia to carry.

I do not know how close they need to be to compete with the antenna but have been told pretty close. I was also advised I could buy a Faraday pouch as they make them specific for key fobs.

I am glad I had a fob to come home to. The plastic key saved me for sure but it is a pita to use. On the GS you need to hold it under the rear fender.

After that experience I will not go anywhere ever again without a spare electronic key.

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Exactly! I came home to my spare fob, went to the bike and tried it and no go. I needed a new battery.

As far as the spare key carry, I wrap my key in tinfoil when I give it to Patricia to carry.

I do not know how close they need to be to compete with the antenna but have been told pretty close. I was also advised I could buy a Faraday pouch as they make them specific for key fobs.

I am glad I had a fob to come home to. The plastic key saved me for sure but it is a pita to use. On the GS you need to hold it under the rear fender.

After that experience I will not go anywhere ever again without a spare electronic key.
Coming home from the rally, I started to get the icon that indicates the battery in the fob was near needing replacement. Once, it failed to be recognized until I moved the fob within a few inches of the dash. Once home, I replaced the battery in the fob. Once replaced, I walked out to the bike to see if all was well again. I laid the fob at the rear of the pillion seat and pressed the key-start. No key w/in range. I then moved the fob forward on the seat and it was recognized as soon as it was at the front of the pillion seat. I did not have to press the key-start a second time, as soon as the fob was in range, the bike went through the start up routine and then fired right up upon pulling in the clutch lever and pushing the starter button.

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Do "back-up" keys allow the bike to go into reverse?
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I think they may, but you have to mount the bike facing backwards.
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So a new key fob is 365.00.

I bought a second plastic key because I could not bend over that far.

70 bucks for a plastic key.

BMW really bends you over every chance they get. Cant be more then 20 bucks in materials in that fob.
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So a new key fob is 365.00.

I bought a second plastic key because I could not bend over that far.

70 bucks for a plastic key.

BMW really bends you over every chance they get. Cant be more then 20 bucks in materials in that fob.
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So a new key fob is 365.00.

I bought a second plastic key because I could not bend over that far.

70 bucks for a plastic key.

BMW really bends you over every chance they get. Cant be more then 20 bucks in materials in that fob.
Lost the 2nd FOB for my '14 RAV4. Had a plastic "chip Key" made at a locksmith for $75. Guess it's the going rate. He had to program it when it was in the car with his "Special" Ipad.

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Makes you wonder if somewhere you can buy something, hold it to the antenna ring, read it and then use something to transmit that.

I am sure car thief's have them no issue.

Yes I know I can buy the damn fob.

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Just a quick update on this - I had the dealer order me the back-up key from the Mothership. $60, all told. So, I know this is in my manual somewhere, but I'm being lazy - how does one start a keyless bike with this key??? I'm assuming you place it over a sensor somewhere, but where, exactly?

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Just a quick update on this - I had the dealer order me the back-up key from the Mothership. $60, all told. So, I know this is in my manual somewhere, but I'm being lazy - how does one start a keyless bike with this key??? I'm assuming you place it over a sensor somewhere, but where, exactly?
You will need to insert the key in the gap above the instrument panel, start the bike, then you can remove the backup key.
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I bought a key from this web site. I used the code that was on the key tag from the dealer (still zip tied to my plastic key) and what I received looked nothing like my bike key.

I tried to contact the web site about it. Heard nothing back. $30 (w/ shipping and tax) down the drain and I still don't have a spare key for my panniers.


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You will need to insert the key in the gap above the instrument panel, start the bike, then you can remove the backup key.
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Question to the collective on the key fob subject...would it be possible to re-program the key fob from a wrecked Wethead RT?
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Question to the collective on the key fob subject...would it be possible to re-program the key fob from a wrecked Wethead RT?
Just tried to program the key from my wrecked 2016 to work with my new 2019.

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