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So the old saying..if it weren't for bad luck..I'd have no luck at all....so I am the one that just replaced the alternator at 93 k...due to a bolt falling out in the engine chewing up the stator...so all is good and going fine I noticed a squeak coming from the final drive area...dropped the differential and oh well..bad u-joint...and apparently they are non replaceable...so I call my friendly bmw parts guy...about 1300 bucks for the shaft....I am beginning to think I may have gotten the shaft on this bike that I dearly love...so I am going to see about having this one rebuilt or have a driveshaft shop make me a whole new shaft...1300 bucks is insane for that...IT'S A LITTLE DRIVE SHAFT...it looks like this u-joint had been going bad for a while...I am not sure...but be advised of bad u-joint 94K 1200 RTW...at the differential...the one at the gearbox end looks new...FYI
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So the old saying..if it weren't for bad luck..I'd have no luck at all....so I am the one that just replaced the alternator at 93 k...due to a bolt falling out in the engine chewing up the stator...so all is good and going fine I noticed a squeak coming from the final drive area...dropped the differential and oh well..bad u-joint...and apparently they are non replaceable...so I call my friendly bmw parts guy...about 1300 bucks for the shaft....I am beginning to think I may have gotten the shaft on this bike that I dearly love...so I am going to see about having this one rebuilt or have a driveshaft shop make me a whole new shaft...1300 bucks is insane for that...IT'S A LITTLE DRIVE SHAFT...it looks like this u-joint had been going bad for a while...I am not sure...but be advised of bad u-joint 94K 1200 RTW...at the differential...the one at the gearbox end looks new...FYI
It looks like water may have gotten in and contaminated the rear one as I see some rust. There was one who used to replace the LT shaft U-joints but I think something caused him to no longer do that repair. I hope you are able to find some place to fix it as they are darn expensive to replace. Not sure if there would be any on flebay or not but it would be worth a look.

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Half the price and rebuildable. Pretty much a no brainer. Double check your specific bike's needs. There are several there that have different spline counts. I only posted that to highlight its availability. I really hate that you're having these issues. Very unusual.

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I would look into it and make sure it will fit the14 model.....but $150 is a whole lot better that $1300

BeemerShop Rebuild kit for R1200 Ei Driveshaft

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I would look into it and make sure it will fit the14 model.....but $150 is a whole lot better that $1300

BeemerShop Rebuild kit for R1200 Ei Driveshaft

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If that's capable of being installed in the OEM shaft. Be worth a call to find out.

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Re: Final drive shaft failure 2014 RTW

I assume you in the US so shipping from the UK might kill this, but Motorworks offer an exchange service for drive shafts - might be worth a call or email.

https://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/S...&search=SEARCH

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so all is good and going fine I noticed a squeak coming from the final drive area...dropped the differential and oh well..bad u-joint
This is the 2nd story posted here of a UJ gone bad. The first one I read was at about 73K miles and I don't believe rust was involved but don't recall for sure. This prompted me to plan to rebuild/replace the shaft w/ its two UJ's at around 80K miles--preemptively. I don't believe the UJ's are replaceable so great to know for $649 you can pick up a rebuildable and new DS w/ UJ's.

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Re: Final drive shaft failure 2014 RTW

Have you tried ebay, there seems to be a few drive shafts off lower mileage rt’s.
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Re: Final drive shaft failure 2014 RTW

Same thing happened to my 07 at 120kph while riding on the highway.
Had 140000km on the bike at the time

Looks like water contamination





No damage to the FD but the swing arm had to be replaced also.
I got lucky and was able to find a used swing arm for less than $100
Bit the bullet for the OEM drive shaft though. I didn't know at the time that there were other options.

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Have you tried ebay, there seems to be a few drive shafts off lower mileage rt’s.

I took the shaft to drive line specialty shop and had them look at it...those folks can do all sorts of custom stuff...no luck...I talked with Ted porters beemer shop in California and as of now there are no rebuild able replacements being made for our LC bikes..he said to check back in 6 months...I did find a complete final drive assembly on eBay off a 2016 that looked to be in very good condition so I ordered that 600 bucks...they didn't know the milage on it so I am just hopeful that it's low...so now if I need at some point final drive bearings or housing and gears and rotor or whatever I will have it on the shelf....I am really disappointed in BMW building this thing with non replaceable u-joint...I will replace that with a new shaft from the beemer shop when they come available...hopefully before I get another 90 plus thousand miles on her...I have front wheel bearings on order to do that also...I guess it's time for that now....maybe I should just go ahead and swap out the entire final drive...odds are pretty good that this unit will be low miles...opinion????
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Re: Final drive shaft failure 2014 RTW

Unfortunately, sealed and non-replaceable u-joints are the norm in the automotive industry nowadays. When was the last time that you had a "lube" job done on your cars? Water contamination inside of the drive housing is the main reason why I said not to take the FD apart without making sure that the rubber boot is put back in placed and sealed properly.


The last time that this subject was discussed here, somebody who (I think) manufactures a kit to allow you to lube the bearings had made some comments. You might want to see what he has to offer, so that you can make the modifications before the new drive shaft is put in place. If I can find that thread again, I will post it for you.

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OK, found the thread, but it wasn't what I had thought I remembered! It was on a 2007 RT, and the guy that I was thinking of had a shop, but not for any modification of the drive shaft or u-joints. Might make interesting reading anyway: https://www.bmwlt.com/forums/rt-seri...destroyed.html

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Okay...thanks for that...I will check it out...
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OK, found the thread, but it wasn't what I had thought I remembered! It was on a 2007 RT, and the guy that I was thinking of had a shop, but not for any modification of the drive shaft or u-joints. Might make interesting reading anyway: https://www.bmwlt.com/forums/rt-seri...destroyed.html
This tread was mine.
I have no shop, I'm no mechanic and and did the work in my garage.
All I did was follow the instructions on the BMW DVD and this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=BsS8y6YlbkM

Note that the amount of FD Oil is incorrect in the video.
It has been changed to 180ml

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This tread was mine.
I have no shop, I'm no mechanic and and did the work in my garage.
All I did was follow the instructions on the BMW DVD and this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=BsS8y6YlbkM

Note that the amount of FD Oil is incorrect in the video.
It has been changed to 180ml
Yes, it was your thread, but I was thinking of another poster in that thread.

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