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post #1 of 27 Old Apr 4th, 2019, 3:36 pm Thread Starter
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Okay, never said I wasn't cheap. Pictured is the plastic push button one pushes to release GPS from the RT's cradle. I was thinking, just drill a small hole to insert a small screw (bolt) so the button can not be pressed in far enough to release GPS unit. Probably something with a Allen head or other less common fastener. Believe I'd feel comfortable leaving unit in cradle with such a set up when stopping for short periods like lunch or while in a gas station. Otherwise, for overnight motel parking lots and the like be able to easily remove the screw to safely pack unit away. Has anyone tried this - results?
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post #2 of 27 Old Apr 4th, 2019, 8:26 pm
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Haven't tried it but that's exactly what I was thinking, I chickened out on drilling a hole in my new bike. The first day I got my bike I forgot and left my GPS on the bike and went up to my wifes office for about 10 minutes then left and sat down at an outdoor restaurant and noticed a hobo looking at it, when he reached for it he luckily turned and saw me staring at him and took off, I got up out of my seat and was ready to tackle him. I didn't have to say a word, he knew he was going to die.

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Before you drill a hole in it you might want to determine if it is hollow or solid. I wouldn't drill a hole in it if it's hollow.

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Before you drill a hole in it you might want to determine if it is hollow or solid. I wouldn't drill a hole in it if it's hollow.
What I'd like to see is a 3-D printed "donut" that would encircle the release button, with a small set-screw in the donut to hold it in place around the release button, preventing anyone from pressing the release button w/o undoing the set-screw/donut from the release button.

Maybe someday I can convince a college kid w/access to a 3-D printer to print me one. Shouldn't cost more than a $1 or so of raw materials.

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It's criminal a locking mechanism wasn't built into the bike by BMW.

We should demand a recall.
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I agree it's unthinkable that BMW didn't include a lock. However, you can buy an excellent GPS locking mechanism that interfaces with the central locking system on the RT. The GPS unit isn't cheap so why cheap out on security for it. Here is a link to Old-timers. Great people and product. http://oldtimers.si/en/
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I think..., these are all a waste of time because you have to go a long way tulill you hit metal in that front end. Since most car thefts of toys like our GPS are busting open a window or an unlocked car, if it’s sitting there This all can be defeated by a nice big screwdriver. So take it with you or leave it there. Show us one instance any of these defeated a thief who tried. The appearance of it being integrated into the dash is its best natural defense,
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I think..., these are all a waste of time because you have to go a long way tulill you hit metal in that front end. Since most car thefts of toys like our GPS are busting open a window or an unlocked car, if it’s sitting there This all can be defeated by a nice big screwdriver. So take it with you or leave it there. Show us one instance any of these defeated a thief who tried. The appearance of it being integrated into the dash is its best natural defense,
So few people would even know about the release button so if a thief decided they wanted to steal it they would likely start prying before even looking for a release button, especially under the tension of a theft in progress. Would another RT owner take it? Very unlikely I think, though of course possible. The ONLY real solution is as you say--take it with you. 2nd option is put it in a locking cubby. I put velcro on top of the GPS Prep and a strip on my jacket collar so what I do for short stops away from the bike is just drape my jacket over the whole dash w/ the velcro holding it to the upper surface of the GPS prep. This avoids anyone even seeing it so it's good for reasonable security when I'm off the bike for shorts stops to take a whiz or what have you.

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So few people would even know about the release button so if a thief decided they wanted to steal it they would likely start prying before even looking for a release button, especially under the tension of a theft in progress. Would another RT owner take it? Very unlikely I think, though of course possible. The ONLY real solution is as you say--take it with you. 2nd option is put it in a locking cubby. I put velcro on top of the GPS Prep and a strip on my jacket collar so what I do for short stops away from the bike is just drape my jacket over the whole dash w/ the velcro holding it to the upper surface of the GPS prep. This avoids anyone even seeing it so it's good for reasonable security when I'm off the bike for shorts stops to take a whiz or what have you.
So with any luck, they only steal your jacket? I appreciate the comment made. Never thought a screw would be a deterrent to a professional. Thinking more about the "kid" who saw an easy target and attempts a two second try. And to the idea that a RT rider or any biker for that matter, wouldn't attempt this known weak link...I wouldn't be so sure about that...there have been thefts at a BMW rally? Thinking the hollow or not release button does need consideration.


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So with any luck, they only steal your jacket? I appreciate the comment made. Never thought a screw would be a deterrent to a professional. Thinking more about the "kid" who saw an easy target and attempts a two second try. And to the idea that a RT rider or any biker for that matter, wouldn't attempt this known weak link...I wouldn't be so sure about that...there have been thefts at a BMW rally? Thinking the hollow or not release button does need consideration.
I'm not so sure either which is why I said it was very unlikely and I still believe it is. The real solution is just take the thing with you it takes about exactly the same time to remove it as it does to fiddle w/ a key or anything else.

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My 'cheap' fix is duct tape

I have an old Zumo 550 that I really use only for the speedometer, and over the years, my Zumo power button, and cradle have deteriorated. I have duct tape over the power button, and another piece over the locking tab on the top. Not very attractive, it also signals that this is an old, perhaps not in great shape unit. Works so far.

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I'm not so sure either which is why I said it was very unlikely and I still believe it is. The real solution is just take the thing with you it takes about exactly the same time to remove it as it does to fiddle w/ a key or anything else.
That's just it...there would be nothing to fiddle with during short stops (with screw in place). At end of day remove screw/unit if parked outside your garage. Otherwise leave mounted all the time, with just a small screw/bolt as a quick theft try deterrent. And I can tell you, there have been thefts at BMW rallies, by BMW riders and others


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That's just it...there would be nothing to fiddle with during short stops (with screw in place). At end of day remove screw/unit if parked outside your garage. Otherwise leave mounted all the time, with just a small screw/bolt as a quick theft try deterrent. And I can tell you, there have been thefts at BMW rallies, by BMW riders and others
Sure, I just remove mine when I sense there is sufficient theft risk, but that is just what works for me. Now if securing the GPS was the only thing that kept me from immediately walking away from the bike when I stop for a short stop then it might be more meaningful, but alas it isn't I have to remove and store my helmet, gloves, etc. Removing the GPS is probably the the least time-intensive task I have to do when I dismount the horse. I put it in the cubby or take it with me for lunch stops, in the motel for night stops, etc. It is unfortunate BMW didn't engineer a barrel lock w/ key in the top of the GPS Prep housing as someone showed pictures of here some time ago it would have added another $15 to the total cost out the door, if that, just like this guy did:


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Haven't tried it but that's exactly what I was thinking, I chickened out on drilling a hole in my new bike. The first day I got my bike I forgot and left my GPS on the bike and went up to my wifes office for about 10 minutes then left and sat down at an outdoor restaurant and noticed a hobo looking at it, when he reached for it he luckily turned and saw me staring at him and took off, I got up out of my seat and was ready to tackle him. I didn't have to say a word, he knew he was going to die.[IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.bmwlt.com/forums/images/smilies/lol8.gif[/IMG][IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.bmwlt.com/forums/images/smilies/lol8.gif[/IMG]
Lol... a hobo...
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. . . It is unfortunate BMW didn't engineer a barrel lock w/ key in the top of the GPS Prep housing as someone showed pictures of here some time ago it would have added another $15 to the total cost out the door, if that, just like this guy did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2ngQD2zj0w
I think you're spot-on . . . BMW engineers could have easily dealt with this BASIC security issue.

I've seen the OldTimers solution but can't understand why it has to cost that much . . . they probably made an estimate of 'what the market will bear'

The key approach in the video clip is something I will look into
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I got the security lock listed on Oldtimers.si from RT-Motofriends (Facebook). I got the unit in five business days and installed it yesterday. Works as advertised. I'll still take the unit out for over night stays at hotels, etc.

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Lol... a hobo...
Yea they used to just be interested in jump'en freight trains, now they're jumping RTs! LOL!

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I got the security lock listed on Oldtimers.si from RT-Motofriends (Facebook). I got the unit in five business days and installed it yesterday. Works as advertised. I'll still take the unit out for over night stays at hotels, etc.
What did it cost US dollars including shipping?


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I think the firs thing I noticed about my new to me RT is the lack of a GPS lock system. Even these add-ons seem a bit flimsy to a thief with a screwdriver. I would have loved to see the GPS slide down behind a window or something to lock it in place.
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What did it cost US dollars including shipping?
Ä118.99 EUR. This included shipping. That's about $134. Wunderlich charges Ä99 for theirs and it's hideous and requires a seperate key. I love the Oldtimers solution. Invisible, linked to central locking, and far more secure. If you have central locking on your RT, this is the way to go. When this thing is locked, the only way to get the GPS out without destroying it, is to take everything apart. And for this you need torx bits and the knowledge of how to get it apart.

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€118.99 EUR. This included shipping. That's about $134. Wunderlich charges €99 for theirs and it's hideous and requires a seperate key. I love the Oldtimers solution. Invisible, linked to central locking, and far more secure. If you have central locking on your RT, this is the way to go. When this thing is locked, the only way to get the GPS out without destroying it, is to take everything apart. And for this you need torx bits and the knowledge of how to get it apart.
. Even if you have the torch bits unless you can raise the windscreen you'd have a hard time removing the top dash cover. I can't recommend the Old-timers.si solution enough. I'm extremely satisfied.
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. . . . I would have loved to see the GPS slide down behind a window . . . .
Great idea!
Sliding down inside the Tupperware would have been really cool
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Takes about a week to 10 days for me to receive items directly from Old timers.si. I think that's very good coming from Slovenia to the USA.

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Has anyone in the USA been charged a customs fee? So far I've never been charged a customs fee for anything that I have received from out of the country.

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I ordered 2 of these locks from Oldtimer today. They are sending me the version with a Sirius antenna platform on them. They are 10 euros more. The price keeps going up. $140EUR each - $325.00US for 2 of them.... shipping included.

So far I have new been charged for any custom fees for anything I buy in the EU. Its already wrapped up in the price or they have figured a way around it.

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