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post #1 of 33 Old Apr 25th, 2011, 6:11 am Thread Starter
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New helmet input.

I purchased an HJC full face 2 years ago based upon input from the knowledgable salesman. It has been OK up to 40 minutes into a ride. After that the front upper padding tends to impress into my bald dome causing tremendous discomfort to the point that I become too distracted to ride.
Any one care to weigh in with their opinion. I currently have no preferences to brand, budget, as always will be a factor.
Any where I can see the interior of various helmets online?
Thanks for all of your assistance in advance.

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Re: New helmet input.

The SO & I both have Nolan N102 & love them. My head is more oval shaped then round & the N102 fits very good. I have rode 1000 mile days and over 16 hours. I looked at the Nolan N90 the other day but it was too round for me.

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Re: New helmet input.

Try to locate the points (hot spots) where it hurts and possible reduce some of the padding. I did that with my helmet around the ears and that made all the difference. Just a little too much pressure in the wrong place, over time, can be quite uncomfortable.

Just my opinion, reducing a little foam or padding will not effect the safety of the helmet in a significant way.

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Re: New helmet input.

Find a dealer that will work you, my dealer ordered every helmet in my size, Tried them on and made a choice, not sure what he did with the rest, may have sent them back.

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Re: New helmet input.

My bride and I both have Scorpion helmets with the retractable shield and love em. (can't remember the model)I bought mine on line and it is too big, needs a little extra padding, but very comfortable. We bought hers at the dealer and tried on the different sizes till we found the one that was comfortable. I would not buy one on line again (boots neither). You really need to fit them.

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I have the Shark Evoline. It's a full modular with the ability to go from full face to open face without having to remove anything. Super comfortable with a built in sun visor (no more sunglasses required).
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Re: New helmet input.

we can make recommendations all day long, but the ONLY way to get a good fit is to...try some on

If you have an oval head shape, you might want to try the new bell "revolver" modular--I picked one up to replace the Bell Star that I, uh, customized in a lowside a few weeks ago. All of the features of the super-high end modulars, drop-down internal sunshade, etc, and was only $209 (yes, $209).

A great source for info on internal shape, with pictures and objective reviews is www.webbikeworld.com, another is www.helmetharbor.com, both have excellent reviews, pictures and many VIDEOS.

Again, the ONLY way to get a reliable, smart fit is to try one on, walk around in the shop for ten-fifteen minutes (yeah, you'll feel silly, but a lot LESS silly than spending a few hundred dollars and getting a helmet that you later can't wear), and making sure it doesn't have pinch spots.

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Re: New helmet input.

The SO and I both wear Scorpion EXO400 full face helmets. We have worn them for a couple seasons and find them very comfortable. I don't know if this is common knowledge or not, but I read an online article about helmets and discovered some helmet makers use one size shell and the liner and padding determine weather the helmet is small or x-large. The Scorpion EXO models use different size shells for different sized helmets. Also the Scorpions come with a fog proof shield that REALLY is fog proof, don't know what they do to them, but it sure works. This is just my opinion, I have no affiliation with Scorpion nor any other helmet manufacturer.

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Re: New helmet input.

I wear glasses full time and find the flip up modular helmets the best for me. I also have a large oval head. I use the HJC below and it fits perfect. However mine does not have the bluetooth this one has. In the past if I found a helmet that has a tight spot, I take a ball peen hammer and press and roll the spot down a bit.

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Re: New helmet input.

I had an "inexpensive" flip front helmet for a couple of years, same problem as you described, it would start to press in the front of my skull and eventually start to burn. My wife also had problems because the helmet set so low on her head, it was difficult for her to turn her head with her leather jacket on while seated on the back of the bike. When I sold the GL1800 I included the helmets because of the intercom, and because we really werent happy with them. I got such a great deal on the LT, I took my wife to the MC shop and we tried on helmets. She loved the Nolan N102, and I liked it too. We have been riding for a couple of years with the nolans, and they have proved to be very comfortable for us. I have not had any of the problems with discomfort while wearing for long periods of time. I would recommend you give them a try.

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Re: New helmet input.

Thanks for the input. I have been looking at the Nolans for awhile now. The flip front seems like a good idea. I will attempt to "customize" the HJC as described. I have an ancient Bell that fits great but is a drag race SA certified helmet not M certified. I have seen the result first hand of the wrong helmet used in the wrong place. The wife gave the go ahead for a proper fitting brain bucket so off I go into the nether world.

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Re: New helmet input.

I tried quite a few on before I found one that fit my head.

When brand new it was a little tight, but gradually conformed to my head.

It's now around 8 years later--time to look for a new one for this summer's riding.

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If one of you fellers wanna great deal on a great helmet, I've got one over in the classified forum right here. It's a size small, which most of you folks prolly don't have as a head size!! Been jockeying around with the price, so I'll handle UPS shipping to the lower 48 for one more 'adjustment' to $200 and I'll leave the headset intact, along with the other parts listed. Remember now - this is a size small. You oughta try one on in that size, locally, if you can. HJC Symax II.
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For riding two-up, my better half and I are very pleased with our N43 Trilogy N-Com configured helmets. Can work with our Bluetooth iPhone, iPod, integrates with our VOICE II, etc.

P.S. I see you must own a '68 Pontiac GTO - I had one of those, too.

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The current GTO is a 69, but I had a 68 ragtop a few years ago as well. This one has a late model LSX series engine with a Magnacharger and a 4L60E trans. I live in the Hot-Rod world as my day job.

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We have HJC SyMax II's. My melon is pretty much melon shaped and the helmet fits well. Love the modular aspect (glasses) and the drop down sunglass thingey.

I had a tire mounted at a shop and the guy cut me a deal on the helmet. A very good deal. Went back 2 months later and bought the matching helmet for the same price I got mine for. Funny, they are out of business now.

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We have the Nolon 102s and really like them, though that Shark is really cool and may be my next one. Best advise is to go to a Motorcylce superstore and try them all on. That's what we did.

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A lot of good comments for an item that is a very personal fit. We've, trusty sidekick and I, have worn a number of different brands (Bell, HJC, Shoei and Nolan). The absolute most important thing is to make sure it fits and will be conmfortable as you have noticed. We have Nolan N103s that we ordered through Sierra Electronics. I didn't want to install the headsets again. We tried them on in the store but neglected to secure the face portion when we tried them on. When we got them and did that they were way too tight. Sierra took them back and gave us the next size which is also the largest that Nolan makes the 2X. Super customer service! These fit better but I still had to recess the headsets more for comfort. The Nolan 103 is by far the noisiest flip front/full face helmet I have ever worn. Ventilation is not bad. The liner comes out totally for cleaning but the left snap pin to secure the cheek piece keeps popping out. The integrated sun shade is great. Bottom line is keep trying them until you get one that does what you want and fits properly. It should be snug as it will loosen over time. I replace mine every three years because it wears out. The spouse's lasts twice as long. Manufacturers recommend 3-5 year replacement cycles. Yes they want to sell more helmets, but helmet design and materials and composition improve all the time making a good deal to swap out periodically. If it gets dropped inspect the shell for cracks and or spiderwebs. If it has these replace it because the shell will fail.

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Re: New helmet input.

I'll second the Nolan 103 as being noisy. I had the 102 and really liked it except that the finish started to peal off. The company traded it +$100 for a new 103 and I was really disappointed. The 102 was quite a bit quieter.

I've got a Scorpion flip and it's as noisy as the Nolan 103. Fits well and has some nice features, but noisy. Looking forward to trying the new Schuberth.

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Don't be afraid to do a bit of carving everyones head is a little different, unless you get lucky and find one that fit's well you'll have to do a bit of adjustment. I have the 103 and it required some dremel love to adjust it so it fits like a glove. And just for the record the Nolan 103 is a noisy beast looking forward to trying something different just not sure what.

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Don't be afraid to do a bit of carving everyones head is a little different, unless you get lucky and find one that fit's well you'll have to do a bit of adjustment. I have the 103 and it required some dremel love to adjust it so it fits like a glove. And just for the record the Nolan 103 is a noisy beast looking forward to trying something different just not sure what.
Interesting how when I told the Nolan people at Bike week, in Daytona this year about my liking the 102 and not the 103 because of the noise, they made me feel like I was the only one to complain of the noise!

They actually said that in tests that the 103 was quieter. Wish there was such a thing as a portable truth meter that really worked..... I was in sales my entire career and I really hate when sales people lie.

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Re: New helmet input.

I have A Nolan 102 ...and have the same issue you have with the Burn spot on the Forehead.....I first tried to wash the liner to fluff it up ...I then shaved some of the foam off the helmet itself....(if you try this only do a little at a time) ....then I tried a new liner.... and I still have that same issue...

I did not have any issues for almost 2 years of owning this helmet...I think my head grew or something....but now i do....

I primarily Ride to and from Work which is about 45 minutes and i do not have issues during that time....

I know i have to purchase a new helmet as well...I am saving up for a Blue Tooth not sure yet which model yet but i am glad to know the HJC has the same issues....they were on the list of helmets to look at

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Interesting how when I told the Nolan people at Bike week, in Daytona this year about my liking the 102 and not the 103 because of the noise, they made me feel like I was the only one to complain of the noise!

They actually said that in tests that the 103 was quieter. Wish there was such a thing as a portable truth meter that really worked..... I was in sales my entire career and I really hate when sales people lie.
Interesting observation. The 103 was supposed to be quieter because the external sun shield was now internal. However, I had to the next size higher so maybe the extra surface area because of the bigger helmet makes more noise?? In any event a good windshield cuts the noise dramatically.

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When I bought my LT 3 years ago the previous owner gave me a new Nolan N102 blue helmet. As I already had a silver hjc open face helmet, I liked the open face better. I tried wearing the Nolan, and liked the look but I just couldn't get used to it. It says it is a medium however it fits like a small. I think I will sell it and keep my HJC. What would be a fair price for this lid??.
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Interesting observation. The 103 was supposed to be quieter because the external sun shield was now internal. However, I had to the next size higher so maybe the extra surface area because of the bigger helmet makes more noise?? In any event a good windshield cuts the noise dramatically.
You are correct about the windshield. With it up all the way, the noise disappeared with both and most likely will with most helmets. It is when I look just over the top, which I prefer, the noise is obvious. I'm looking forward to trying the Schuberth as they advertise it the quietest flip helmet available.

For $1,200 with bluetooth, it should come with a back massage and drinks.....

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I have yet to find a truly quiet helmet. I now ride with the windscreen fully up when over 50mph. I'll take the reduced gas milage over wind noise. I'm much more at peace with the ride and don't have a problem looking through the undistorted V-Stream shield.

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Dano, I just rode coast to coast in 4 days with the Schuberth. I paid $1000 with the electronics. I can truly say that i'm satisified. the electronics are first class. i listened to pandoa radio almost all day, ever day. the phone operates great. it is a very quiet, and the weight is very light. "that what i was impressed with. My neck does not hurt after 4 straight days. I did have a hot spot on my forhead, but not bad. overall, I'm ok with the 2 grand spent "2 heads"
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Re: New helmet input.

I tried a Nolan N43 modular last evening. The shop only had a large in stock. Fit just a tad loose. Did not seem to cause the pressure points on my forehead. I can't seem to find a shop in my area with any real selection of Nolan. I also tried that Shark, HJC flip up and another off brand. I am becoming a bit disappointed. I am going to try a bit more surgery on my HJC. We will see how that works out.

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Dano, I just rode coast to coast in 4 days with the Schuberth. I paid $1000 with the electronics. I can truly say that i'm satisified. the electronics are first class. i listened to pandoa radio almost all day, ever day. the phone operates great. it is a very quiet, and the weight is very light. "that what i was impressed with. My neck does not hurt after 4 straight days. I did have a hot spot on my forhead, but not bad. overall, I'm ok with the 2 grand spent "2 heads"
I thought I commented on this thread but can't find it. Saturday 30th I went to a grand opening BMW of Countryside and was greeted by a whole display of C3. All sizes and all colours did not see the yellow (well did not check every box). The silver one my size XL was open so I gave it a try. Other than fit, features and colour I can't really comment on how it would perform in a ride test. So I am going with your experience. Yes I liked it.
Problem I got my bike last year and could not find that lid in the US. I had researched it and still own the original schuberth with the styrofoam inside so it would have been perfect for me to buy one. I had to do the next best thing Shoei Multitec, J&M head set and BMW lower cord = $850.
Now that the Schuberth is here and to my liking I can only hope for a trade or invest another grand and have 2 helmets. My vote is the Shoei right now.
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ARAI makes their shells specifically for different shaped heads. Recommend you try their various models. My wife couldn't stand my helmet, but tried a different model and she is very happy with hers. Which, of course, makes my life so much better!!!
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Re: New helmet input.

You know there's a section just for gear, right?

Anyway here's my review of the Schuberth C3, which if it fits your head, is IMO the ultimate helmet:

http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60523

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Re: New helmet input.

I took the liberty of remodeling the inside of the foam at the front. It seems to have done the trick. Went for a 2 hour ride, not a bit of discomfort.
I have yet to find a shop in the area that actually keeps any high end inventory. I will keep looking. At this point I think I favor the Scorpion EXO900(?) flip front.

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I have yet to find a shop in the area that actually keeps any high end inventory.
Scottsdale BMW has the Schuberth in stock, and Victory should also by now. They had said they would have them weeks ago, but I haven't been in there since. Cycle Gear has the full line of Shoei and Arai. Helmet Harbor stocks a few select high-end options.

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