Originally Posted by grahamw
...I have a Santiago Jacket and I am glad to say that I returned nice and dry underneath it. It is a long jacket so keeps the small of my back warm. Overall I am happy with the purchase but doubt I would buy another one. Why not? It has a seperate Gortex liner that provides the waterproofing and some wiind protrection - I am not convinced this is ideal for the temprate climate in this country - but would be ideal if you had dry hot summers. As the shell is not waterproof none of the pockets are waterproof, maybe not such a big issue with the storage on the LT but where do you keep your wallet?. After todays trip the whole shell has absorbed water and has got heavier but I should treat it with Nikiwax.
The guy I did my trip with had an earlier streetgaurd and did not find it to oppresive in the heat. He also swears by trousers with a bib tyoe arrangement as it keeps your middle warm.
After watching the video you posted a link for I would even consider Aerostich pants as it saves the boots off - trousers on - boots on - sort out trousers carry on...)
Graham, excellent points all around. My additional comments:
The easy on/off of the Aerostich suit is what I like best about it. The wet-crotch issue seems to be a hit-or-miss thing: some owners report it, others say it doesn't happen for them. Could have to do with how much rain you ride in, open bike v. LT, etc.
I've had the Santiago jacket on several times. What a great piece of gear! Wonderful quality (typically BMW), great protection, great features, but I don't want anything I need to add a liner to stay dry. Santiago jacket, pants, and liner cost $1,220 the way I price it.
Bib-type pants? Yes, that would be my first choice. I just like the way they fit, and provide extra rain protection in a two-piece suit. I like a 3/4-length touring jacket, and I like to pull the zipper up a foot or so when I'm on the LT. Bibs make that "safer", rain-wise.
To all who are reading this: I'm still open to your suggestions for large full-line BMW apparel dealers. Cleveland is one option for me, but they aren't the size of Houston, Chicago, California, etc. dealers.