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Interesting reading re: helmet color and safety.
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post #2 of 16 Old Oct 5th, 2006, 7:18 pm
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Very Interesting

Thanks for sharing that. Although the study is old ('93-'96), I don't know why the same results wouldn't be applicable to us today.

Of course, this opens up the whole "helmet" can of worms -- white helmets, black helmets, no helmets, strobe lights on top of helmets...

I take some comfort in being on the "plus" side of the stats that the study quotes: Our headlights are always on (that started in 1968, I believe), I wear a white helmet, added Motolights for conspicuity, added RiderWest's sidecase reflector conversion kit (best thing I've done in a long time); some day hope to have additional reflectivity on my riding apparel -- other than the basic reflective piping on my jacket -- via an Aerostich suit or reflective vest.

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Of course, this opens up the whole "helmet" can of worms -- white helmets, black helmets, no helmets, strobe lights on top of helmets...
How about making your avatar blink?



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How about making your avatar blink?
Hey, if I thought it would make me a little safer on the road, I might! But, I don't have the technical skills to make one of those animated avatar things.

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It's contagious
Just following the lead of the illustrious Mr. Shealey!

But seriously, I like the idea of seeing who we are "talking" to.

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Thanks, that was a good read.
Another factor to remember is that the helmet is, at times, the only visible clue that a motorcycle in the stream of (urban) traffic. For that reason alone it is wise to chose a bright color.
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Thanks for sharing that. Although the study is old ('93-'96), I don't know why the same results wouldn't be applicable to us today.

Of course, this opens up the whole "helmet" can of worms -- white helmets, black helmets, no helmets, strobe lights on top of helmets...

I take some comfort in being on the "plus" side of the stats that the study quotes: Our headlights are always on (that started in 1968, I believe), I wear a white helmet, added Motolights for conspicuity, added RiderWest's sidecase reflector conversion kit (best thing I've done in a long time); some day hope to have additional reflectivity on my riding apparel -- other than the basic reflective piping on my jacket -- via an Aerostich suit or reflective vest.
Howard I still got a couple rolls of that reflective tape they use on the back of Bacon wagons. We could tape you up good
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Smile Any Colour Except White

For interest, white helmets are not easily available in the UK. The issue is that the mounted LEO's use white. Seems a bit unfair.

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Smile And No Tinted Visors Either

Oh, and one other no no, couldn't buy a tinted visor for my System V from the dealer. Said they were illegal as not enough light transmission for night use. DOH ! Guess they can't legislate against wearing sun glasses after dark.
They are listed in the dealers records, and available, just harder to get.

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Howard I still got a couple rolls of that reflective tape they use on the back of Bacon wagons. We could tape you up good
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Too late, Rock. My wife added reflective tape kits to both our helmets before I went to CCR a few weeks back. No reflective items on the bike yet, but I can see that happening in the future. There was a vendor at CCR who was doing that, but I'm looking for something different than he had. I think some tasteful dark reflective tape (reflecting white) is a good idea, on the back of the bike.

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white helmets and visors

I have a white helmet so not sure about LEO problem, more I think that the sprot riding crowd prefer fancy replicas. As for visors look over here:
http://www.motorradconcepts.com/bmwh...#sys5visortint

I htink it more that BMW does not sell them so the dealers don't sell them.

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. DOH ! Guess they can't legislate against wearing sun glasses after dark.
Actually yes they can and already have
South Dakota (Sturgis) has a law against riding a motorcycle while wearing sunglasses after dark


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Smile Blimey, What Next.

Thanks, I guess they must have the well being of motorcyclists at heart.
What about cage drivers ?

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In a country founded with criminals, they sure have lots of laws and try to follow them.
Paint the helmets white if you can't buy them, or use all white helmets as target practice for your cage. "I couldn't see, the light coming off the white thing blinded me" Should change in a hurry
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Actually yes they can and already have
South Dakota (Sturgis) has a law against riding a motorcycle while wearing sunglasses after dark
Nothing like more laws in a nation of laws.
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