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Simpson fresh air helmets - why not?

So, how come nobody uses these helmets for hot weather riding? They are a bit pricey at $800, but it sure would be nice to have a truly ventilated helmet for summer riding. (notice the inlet for the fresh air supply on the side and top)

Seems to me this would be just awesome, all a guy would need is a small dc blower like one used to inflate air beds... or maybe a little freon mixed with laughing gas.

Next time I get some spare cash... but you just know the wife will want one too!
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post #2 of 11 Old Jul 8th, 2006, 11:18 pm
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Perhaps the $800 price tag? Unless you believe a helmet's safety and functionality is directly related to its cost?

I had some friends who used similar forced-air systems when desert racing dune buggies about 10 years ago. At speed there is no clean air so you have to filter it and blow it directly into the helmet or you just stop breathing. That does bad things to your lap times, never mind your ability to stay conscious.

Now the ability to blow cold air into the helmet may be a huge benefit in the summer, with the ability to get warm air for defogging in the winter. Might be a great addition to your climate control suit.

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Perhaps the $800 price tag? Unless you believe a helmet's safety and functionality is directly related to its cost?

I had some friends who used similar forced-air systems when desert racing dune buggies about 10 years ago. At speed there is no clean air so you have to filter it and blow it directly into the helmet or you just stop breathing. That does bad things to your lap times, never mind your ability to stay conscious.

Now the ability to blow cold air into the helmet may be a huge benefit in the summer, with the ability to get warm air for defogging in the winter. Might be a great addition to your climate control suit.
This should be Ari's next down-time project. He could have a forced-air warm/cool recirculating system ready in a couple of weeks.

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I would suggest trying one on before you buy. I bought a Simpson about 6 years ago, thinking it would be "cool". I was very dissappointed in the helment and sent it back right away. They may be good in a cage (race car), but I didn't like it at all from a M/C standpoint. I think that Simpson abandoned the M/C market years ago. You may get lots of fresh air in the thing, but what are the aerodynamics like?
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Anyone ever see those portable fridges that heat/cool with electricty only?

About 10 years ago I was in the Lonestar M/C shop in their previous location and they had a helmet which was supposed to provide that function.. heat/cool inside the helmet. They had a gel pack sort of like "blue ice" for skull contact. I think it might work well if I shaved off what little hair I have on my lumpy cranium.

aaaanyway, I know someone who has one of those, mounted a "scoop" on his HD, put a "Dobie" pot scrubber in the intake end of the hose (bug catcher). He said it worked pretty good above 55... but way too hot below that speed. Seems he tried "in line" fans robbed from PC's for the "low speed" boost.. Eventually gave up on the idea as too cumbersome... and he kept getting stopped by LEO's who were interested in what he was doing....

I'm thinking it's a "doable" option, tho..

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I would suggest trying one on before you buy. I bought a Simpson about 6 years ago, thinking it would be "cool". I was very dissappointed in the helment and sent it back right away. They may be good in a cage (race car), but I didn't like it at all from a M/C standpoint. I think that Simpson abandoned the M/C market years ago. You may get lots of fresh air in the thing, but what are the aerodynamics like?
Oh yeah, I would definitely try one on since I've got a major egg shaped head.

Simpson markets 9 different models of MC helmets from $69 to $420. I'm not really interested in helmet aerodynamics riding behind a full fairing bike like the LT, but they DO make an interesting looking helmet with "countermeasures" to prevent lift..... If I had a sportbike I would seriously consider this helmet since it is so different looking:
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...If I had a sportbike I would seriously consider this helmet since it is so different looking:
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Nice looking helmet (basically the one I tried), but there isn't much in the way of venting on that one. Seems that they aren't very interested in passive venting. I didn't mean to suggest that they don't sell M/C helments, just that it isn't any kind of focus of theirs.
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Exactly.
Tres Darth. It would go perfectly with a nekked bike, maybe one of the Triumphs...

or maybe that bad wamma jamma 250...


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Howie, I am your father.

(I would HAVE to lose those stupid Simpson logo stickers - jeez... maybe replace them with "Vader".)


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