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Is anyone using the H.A.R.D. LED warning system. I'm not crazy about the beeping in my ear, so I thought this might be an option.

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I have had one for a year for my RX-65 radar detector. It works very well as long as you remember to turn it off and not run the battery down. I always keep spare batteries and a small phillips screwdriver with me just in case. The LED is very bright. During the day I keep the LED just visible in my peripheral vision. At night I push the LED down and into my cheek. If you don't do something like this it will blind you. Your face plate will light up like a brake light too . The stem that the LED is mounted on is very flexible so it easily accomodates this.

I know some people use LED systems that mount in the instrument cluster, handlebar or other places. The only advantage the HARD system has is that it is visible no matter which way your head is turned. The advantage to the other systems is that you don't have to worry about running down batteries.


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I have one for the Escort that I'd like to sell. Let me know if you're interested.
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Is anyone using the H.A.R.D. LED warning system. I'm not crazy about the beeping in my ear, so I thought this might be an option.
I was okay with the "beeping" but, the Mrs. would not have been happy with it so I went with the H.A.R.D. system.

In short I love it. At first I had trouble remembering to turn it off and was changing batteries frequently. I bought a bunch of them (100) in anticipation of burning through them, then I got in the habit of turning it off every time I took my helmet off and now a single set of batteries lasts for months.

The effectiveness of the unit is very good. You can bend the stem of the LED to whatever location fits your needs. It is a product I would definitely recommend.

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I have one for the Escort that I'd like to sell. Let me know if you're interested.
I have a V-1. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they're brand specific.

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I was okay with the "beeping" but, the Mrs. would not have been happy with it so I went with the H.A.R.D. system.
That too!


Thanks for the recommendations. I'll probably order one today.

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Is anyone using the H.A.R.D. LED warning system. I'm not crazy about the beeping in my ear, so I thought this might be an option.
The only problem I've had with mine is the transmitter for the HARD jams the GPS receiver. One idea I have is to remotely locate the transmitter to see if that relieves the GPS jamming.

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The only problem I've had with mine is the transmitter for the HARD jams the GPS receiver. One idea I have is to remotely locate the transmitter to see if that relieves the GPS jamming.

Karl
I had the same problem so I quit using it. It's for sale if anyone is looking. I have the extra cost ($25) waterproof sending unit as well. I'll sell this shipped to you for $140.00. This unit fits the Escort 8500 only I think.
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The only problem I've had with mine is the transmitter for the HARD jams the GPS receiver. One idea I have is to remotely locate the transmitter to see if that relieves the GPS jamming.
That's interesting. I'll have to think about that.
I wonder how far the transmitter would have to be from the GPS to alleviate that problem.

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I have a Lowrance iWay 500c GPS, Bel RX-65 radar detector and the HARD system and I have no problems. YMMV! The external antenna for my iWay is mounted on top of the HARD plastic box that my RX-65 and the HARD transmitter are inside of. When I am not running the external antenna my GPS is 8 to 10 inches from my radar detector.

That is not to say that the folks with problems are not diagnosing the cause of their problem correctly. Different hardware and different setups are not likely to exhibit the same symptoms unless the HARD unit is radiating significantly on the GPS satellite frequency. There could be intermodulation between the RF noise that the radar detector and the HARD transmitter are radiating that is causing the interference to the GPS or their GPS units just have different susceptibility thresholds to whatever RF noise is being produced.


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Word of the day: intermodulation

I'm using a BMR shelf with the Zumo 550 mounted center and a V-1 on the right arm.
I think I'll try the HARD system and mount it remotely if I have to.

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Two years and I'm happy with the unit. On some Garmin units you can disable the remote function which may help if your getting IR interference.
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I have a Lowrance iWay 500c GPS, Bel RX-65 radar detector and the HARD system and I have no problems. YMMV! The external antenna for my iWay is mounted on top of the HARD plastic box that my RX-65 and the HARD transmitter are inside of. When I am not running the external antenna my GPS is 8 to 10 inches from my radar detector.

That is not to say that the folks with problems are not diagnosing the cause of their problem correctly. Different hardware and different setups are not likely to exhibit the same symptoms unless the HARD unit is radiating significantly on the GPS satellite frequency. There could be intermodulation between the RF noise that the radar detector and the HARD transmitter are radiating that is causing the interference to the GPS or their GPS units just have different susceptibility thresholds to whatever RF noise is being produced.
Hi, Jim. I don't know about intermodulation. Could be. I just know that when the HARD transmits the Garmin GPS V loses its signal. So, I stopped using it. As to how far away the HARD transmitter needs to be away from the GPS, I really don't know. I just figured to get as far away on the bike as possible and go from there. Right now I'm working on running the detector audio into the Autocomm and chasing ground loups in the process. I really like the idea of the HARD and the folks at Legal Speeding have been really nice.

You know, it seems to me that we're talking about really weak signals here and it should be possible to get the HARD transmitter far enough from the GPS to not affect the GPS signal. On my bike, the GPS and the radar detector are within a couple inches of each other and as the HARD cabling is standard 4 pin phone connector (damn oldsheimers its a RJ 4 something). One of these days I'm gonna experiment with that a bit. If I can [email protected]#[email protected] remember.

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I received the H.A.R.M. system yesterday and installed it this morning. There seem to be no interference issues between the HARM and my Zumo 550.
I used the Zumo to navigate to a location and intentionally drove through an area where I received strong false signals from the V-1 and both the Zumo and the HARM worked great.

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I have a V1 and the GPS. I've had no problems what so ever. I did get a ticket in Yosemite N.P. with my V1 going off, but I had the tunes going and I don't have the radar going through the communication system. I added the H.A.R.D. system and it works great. But I too go through the batteries as I forget to turn it off. Work great!
I have the V1 mounted on a shelf above my gauges, and a factory mount GPS.
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