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false alerts on laser?..

I think iam getting alot of false alerts in the laser band on my passport 8500. Is it time to replace upgrade to the newer devices? Or do they have the same false alarms on laser? I did figure out that some new cars with proximity sensor
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Re: false alerts on laser?..

I don't use a Passport unit anymore but I would send it in for a check up. I sent my Valentine in for an upgrade and I rarely get any false alarms or the false alarms from traffic counters.

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Re: false alerts on laser?..

Passport no longer supports my unit.. maybe santa clause will be good to me.

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Re: false alerts on laser?..

I understand that lights of certain frequency (in the red range?) can give false laser alarm. My Valentine had been very good in that regards. BTW, if you do get a new one, I would recommend the Valentine. To many of us, the valuable features are the arrows (telling whether the signals are coming from the front, back, sides, or combinations) and the numeral indicator to tell you how many signals are detected. Of course, the accuracy of the detection is very good as well.

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I had a Valentine permanently mounted on my LT, and after some time turned off the Laser detection feature. First, if you are hit by laser, too late to do anything about it. Just pull over and get ready to talk. Secondly, and mostly, it turned out to be the world's best detector of GM SUV brake lights! Anytime one was in front of me and braked, it would scare the crap out of me. I had the V! audio into my helmet head phones, and the Laser warning is LOUD!

The Laser warning usefulness is dubious at best, not worth putting up with the false alarms.

I know have the V1 in my truck.

I vote for the V1! i have had it for about 12 years, and two years ago it started giving me a LOT of false alarms on a trip, to the point it was almost continuous. Valentine has a set repair fee of $40, so I packed it up with a check enclosed and sent it off. 4 days later, it came back fixed, with the check in the box! Where else can you get any electronics repaired 10 years after purchase, no questions asked, fast, and no charge? Where else can you get support like that for anything? Even if there is a radar detector out there that is as good as the V1, will it have support that good? Doubt it.

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I had a Valentine permanently mounted on my LT, and after some time turned off the Laser detection feature. First, if you are hit by laser, too late to do anything about it. Just pull over and get ready to talk. Secondly, and mostly, it turned out to be the world's best detector of GM SUV brake lights! Anytime one was in front of me and braked, it would scare the crap out of me. I had the V! audio into my helmet head phones, and the Laser warning is LOUD!

The Laser warning usefulness is dubious at best, not worth putting up with the false alarms.

I know have the V1 in my truck.

I vote for the V1! i have had it for about 12 years, and two years ago it started giving me a LOT of false alarms on a trip, to the point it was almost continuous. Valentine has a set repair fee of $40, so I packed it up with a check enclosed and sent it off. 4 days later, it came back fixed, with the check in the box! Where else can you get any electronics repaired 10 years after purchase, no questions asked, fast, and no charge? Where else can you get support like that for anything? Even if there is a radar detector out there that is as good as the V1, will it have support that good? Doubt it.
Yeah, I agree with you regarding the usefulness of the laser detection. That thing with the brake light was what I remembered reading in the past!

BTW, I really don't want to have the noise in my helmet, and so I bought the remote display and install that where I couldn't miss seeing any alerts. Works for me. Typically, I ride carefully anyway, and the Valentine is there just to keep me honest.

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Yeah, I agree with you regarding the usefulness of the laser detection. That thing with the brake light was what I remembered reading in the past!

BTW, I really don't want to have the noise in my helmet, and so I bought the remote display and install that where I couldn't miss seeing any alerts. Works for me. Typically, I ride carefully anyway, and the Valentine is there just to keep me honest.
You can still detect Laser if other vehicles are being shot ahead of you. So yes if you have no traffic a head..................instant on will get you.


But if there is traffic , you see intermittent short bursts in plenty of time to realize a threat exists, although laser can be blocked by large trucks, but it also can reflect off them and give you a warning. I would never disable the function.


And I have the Marc Parnes 5 Led warning light block mounted up on top of my Zumo 665 which is on a BMR co-pilot with a Touratech locking mount mounted on BMR's adjustble mount. LED's are almost directly in line of site!

V1 mounted on the right shelf of the Co-pilot!

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And I have the Marc Parnes 5 Led warning light block mounted up on top of my Zumo 665 which is on a BMR co-pilot with a Touratech locking mount mounted on BMR's adjustble mount. LED's are almost directly in line of site!

V1 mounted on the right shelf of the Co-pilot!
I prefer the Valentine remote display because it still have the arrows and numbers that I can see readily. My mounting is similar to yours, in the '07 RT I have the remote display mounted on top off the Zumo 550, which is mount right above the dash on a Wunderlich GPS mount. Directly in my line of sight. on the '14 RT, (now it's going to be the '15 RT) the remote display sits right on top of the GPS prepped dash. Again, right in my line of sight.

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I prefer the Valentine remote display because it still have the arrows and numbers that I can see readily. My mounting is similar to yours, in the '07 RT I have the remote display mounted on top off the Zumo 550, which is mount right above the dash on a Wunderlich GPS mount. Directly in my line of sight. on the '14 RT, (now it's going to be the '15 RT) the remote display sits right on top of the GPS prepped dash. Again, right in my line of sight.
My V1 is in plain sight and once I see the LED's I can look directly at the V1 and read the numbers and the arrows!
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Re: false alerts on laser?..

There are some laser alerts that are caused by projector HID headlights. I have noticed this a lot in the past few years. There are also times that sun reflections from passing vehicles will trigger the laser warning. Kind of a pain, but my V1 is still great. I do need to send it in for the latest upgrade at some point, and this may be addressed.

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On a recent trip, I found that sunlight reflected from shiny car surfaces, especially chrome wheels and windshileds, caused the laser warning on my V1 to trip. Just about every time I passed a vehicle with chrome wheels and the sun was shining on them, my laser tripped.
It is 15 years old and paid for itself again on I-40 between Kingman and Barstow. Radar blipped and I slowed down from xxx mph to the speed limit and 2 cars shot past me. 1 mile down the road they were both pulled over.

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On a recent trip, I found that sunlight reflected from shiny car surfaces, especially chrome wheels and windshileds, caused the laser warning on my V1 to trip. Just about every time I passed a vehicle with chrome wheels and the sun was shining on them, my laser tripped.
It is 15 years old and paid for itself again on I-40 between Kingman and Barstow. Radar blipped and I slowed down from xxx mph to the speed limit and 2 cars shot past me. 1 mile down the road they were both pulled over.
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Gilles, it wasn't me, the bike did it. A detector is a mandatory piece of equipment on the K16. It isn't going to protect you all the time, but even once is good and even the false alerts make you aware that there is a speed limit .

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I think iam getting alot of false alerts in the laser band on my passport 8500. Is it time to replace upgrade to the newer devices? Or do they have the same false alarms on laser? I did figure out that some new cars with proximity sensor
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I was having all kinds of false laser alert with my old Cobra RD. Got to the point where I just took the unit off the bike. Tried a different power source...nope. Tried a power conditioner.....nope. Finally gave up and started to look for another RD.

I know most of the guys here are fans of the Valentine RD, but I ended up going with an Adaptiv RD. Here's my quick and dirty results for consideration.

V1- Better alerts and the directional signal indicator is a plus.

Adaptiv- Water resistant/proof and comes with a LED "visual screamer". Also it's pretty easy to add in the laser jammer to the system.

I can understand why most peeps go the V1 route, but I live in western Washington State and it RAINS here! That became the deciding factor and so I bought one. So far?...it's been great. No false lasers and it's alerted in all the right spots. I can't hear the RD with my helmet on, but the visual screamer all but does away with the need to hear the unit....it's BRIGHT! I put the light up on my dash, and you can't miss it when it goes off.

Hope this helps...B

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