Originally Posted by DaveDragon
From what I'm hearing on the other boards, the Adv is outshining the 1150 in several areas.
But the price will go down later as you predicted.
One of the areas where I think BMW missed the mark is in the gearing. It was definitely noticeable to me that 1st gear in the new ADV is not as low as 1st in the 1150ADV, and I didn't like that. Plus I was riding the new ADV without bags or any significant weight on board, so I think that it would be worse loaded up and on a steep trail. And while I thought that the bags on the new ADV looked pretty good and secure, I now hear that they can get knocked/bumped off too easily, to the point where people are adding additional retaining straps to keep them on. Of course, you can always go with Jesse's.
And even though I am tall, I was not as comfortable on the R12 as I am on the R1150 ADV. Felt like I was sitting way up on top of the R12, whereas I felt more "within" the 1150. That and my right shin was hitting the throttle body assembly on the R12, which doesn't happen to me on the R1150.
Finally, while I liked the dash layout on the R12 (and its computer), I found the gauges harder to read due to sun glare.
Bottom line is that I think that the R12GS and ADV is a great bike. But so is/was the R1150. I didn't jump off the R12ADV test ride and shout "I have to have one of these." Instead it was more like "nice, but my 1150ADV will do just fine for me for now." I think overall it is an improvement, but not in all respects for me. And we might be seeing some of that with other potential buyers, who initially put down a deposit but ultimately released the bikes when they came in to other buyers. There definitely was a lot of hype about "the new Adventures" before they became available, but some folks aren't as enthusiastic now that the bikes are available.
Or maybe it was just that BMW released them a week after income taxes were due in the US!