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R1150RT-P Recomendations

I just acquired a 2002 RTP that was recently taken out of service. Your recommendations for modifications to "civilianize" the bike are appreciated. Known issues are: Need Back Seat, Need Audio Option. Thanks.
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I don't believe you can add a rear seat. The other options should not be too hard. Good Luck.

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I don't believe you can add a rear seat. The other options should not be too hard. Good Luck.
Well, you can add a rear seat, but it is not simple nor inexpensive. I believe that it is ~$800 in parts alone, and I have heard that many of those installed at home never fit quite right. So you might want to factor in some dealer labor as well.

As far as tunes, I would suggest going with satellite radio (or an MP3 player with a tuner) and helmet (or in-ear) speakers. I recently want with XM radio (didn't want to pay Howard Stern's outrageous salary, so I stayed away from Sirius) and I really like it. Plus they are closing out the Roady2 units, and I bought a couple (just to have one as a back-up) from BestBuy for $19.99, no rebate required!

I would also think about additional lighting pretty soon. I used the standard light mounts off the dash of the RT-P, and rigged up some PIAA 510's to the aux battery. NOTE: This is not legal in all states since it puts the aux lights above the level of the headlight, but I've never been bothered by any LEOs.

Finally, if you still do have the aux battery in place, make yourself a jumper cable. The way mine is wired (standard???), the dash mounted power socket runs off the aux battery, and the one behind your left leg runs off the main battery. If you make yourself a little cable with Powerlet males on each end, then you can jump-start your own bike, if the need arises.

Unless you specifically bought the bike for 2-up riding, take some time to use the radio box on the back. I use my RT-P as a daily commuter, and I love the convenience and space that the radio box provides. I was originally going to try and convert the bike to a 2-seater, but now I've had it for almost a year and I no longer want to.

You could always just buy an LT for your 2-up riding...

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Paint?

Did you keep the black and white color scheme or paint? Thanks for the input on the audio and the radio box.
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Actually I bought mine already repainted. The dealer had one in all silver, and 2 others in all black. The silver one had the lowest mileage and rode well, so that is the one I bought.

There are some different thoughts about retaining the CHP or police color scheme. One is that cars move out of your way when they see you coming up from behind. I have had this happen with me, although I am not sure whether the motorists are picking up the shape of the bike more than the color.

A little worse is when motorists see what they think is a poilce bike coming up behind them, and they slow down significantly. That is one downside to riding an RT-P, as drivers slow down more often then pull into another lane. Be prepared for this so it never happens too "unexpectedly" to you.

Attached is one shot of my bike which I could find here at work. I personally like the silver look. Plus I have now removed all crash bars (front and rear). A little cleaner look, plus there is some controversy as to whether crash bars in a lay-down accident actually reduce or increase injuries to the rider. Plus it is cheaper to service: I think that my dealer charged me about $60 more to service the bike if they had to R&R the crash bars.

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Nice Ride!!!

Thanks for the heads-up.

I have decided to keep the crash bars for a while and paint the white cowling, tank cover, and radio lid all black. Should be a great looker (like your silver RT)!!!

Thanks again.

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BTW, here is a link to an applicable thread on the Sport Touring Board:
http://bmwsporttouring.com/ubbthread...rue#Post645801
Looks like a rear seat "kit" is around $650.

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Congrats with the RT-P I used to have one too. but why would you want to civilianize your RT-P, should have bought the RT instead.

Anyway the Kit is around $1100.00 + install from the dealer. the crashbars are very handy when bringing a lot of luggage during road trips.
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I just acquired a 2002 RTP that was recently taken out of service. Your recommendations for modifications to "civilianize" the bike are appreciated. Known issues are: Need Back Seat, Need Audio Option. Thanks.
I'd love to see a photo (photos?) of your RTP before you repaint it. This is intriguing, as we don't have motor LEOs here in Ohio (other than some local city/county PDs that use Harleys). Certainly no LEO BMWs in Ohio that I'm aware of.

I'm also intrigued by the idea of having a retired RTP and leaving it as "official-looking" as possible, for all the traffic/safety benefits. It might prevent that one guy from turning in front of me...

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...Attached is one shot of my bike which I could find here at work. I personally like the silver look. Plus I have now removed all crash bars (front and rear). A little cleaner look, plus there is some controversy as to whether crash bars in a lay-down accident actually reduce or increase injuries to the rider.
Tom, that is about the nicest-looking RT I've seen. It's bikes like yours that make me rethink my LT purchase decision. I know -- the LT and RT are different bikes, but...

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Tom, that is about the nicest-looking RT I've seen. It's bikes like yours that make me rethink my LT purchase decision. I know -- the LT and RT are different bikes, but...
Thanks for the compliment, Howard. I really do like my RT-P as it is really handy for a daily commuter (in traffic) and errand runner. I don't know whether I would like it as much as an LD tourer. After riding K bikes, I would miss the smoothness.

No need to second guess your LT purchase: You did not go wrong. These are FANTASTIC bikes. Unless you are trying to use it to commute daily in traffic. And if that is the case, just get a smaller, used bike for the daily grind, and enjoy your LT even more on the weekends!

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... I really do like my RT-P as it is really handy for a daily commuter (in traffic) and errand runner. I don't know whether I would like it as much as an LD tourer. After riding K bikes, I would miss the smoothness.
I had a brief test ride of an RT before I bought the LT. With more experience under my belt I should go back and do that again. I did notice right away the smoothness of the K bikes and that is what attracted me to them.

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No need to second guess your LT purchase: You did not go wrong. These are FANTASTIC bikes. Unless you are trying to use it to commute daily in traffic. And if that is the case, just get a smaller, used bike for the daily grind, and enjoy your LT even more on the weekends!
That is exactly how I use the LT, which is my only bike: commuting (52 miles each way, 1/2 interstate, 1/2 county two-lane), errands, and fun. Like most people, if $$ was no object I'd have several different bikes for various applications. Until then it's one at a time, and I'll stick with the LT.

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Thanks for the compliment, Howard. I really do like my RT-P as it is really handy for a daily commuter (in traffic) and errand runner. I don't know whether I would like it as much as an LD tourer. After riding K bikes, I would miss the smoothness....
and this just in: re-reading this thread, I looked a second time at your repainted RT-P and NOW I SEE the radio box that you kept. Sweet! You get a solo RT with a built-in top case. Very nice. My previous compliment was related to the paint scheme only. Even nicer to see the top case still there.

How much ya want for it?

Are these sold at auction in California, or what process does one follow to pick up one of these beauties? How many miles are on them when they are retired? Do they still run at retirement time?

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Nice. Thanks.

Boy, I'd be tempted to keep the original paint and add-ons, for reasons previously discussed. There was another thread a couple of months ago on this topic. David Shealey, I think, even had a link to site where you can buy LEO-style helmets. The thread was talking about using a retired RT-P with LEO-style helmet, leather jacket, etc., but determined it might be a little too much like impersonating an officer...

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I agree that it is sharp looking as is; but it is, undoubtedly, a retired police motor (2002, 36,000 miles). After some thought, I am now considering putting a BMW Blue stripe, 2 or 3 inches thick, across the bottom of the bike or possibly down the centerline instead of painting - Just to differentiate it from a police motor. What do you all think?
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and this just in: re-reading this thread, I looked a second time at your repainted RT-P and NOW I SEE the radio box that you kept. Sweet! You get a solo RT with a built-in top case. Very nice. My previous compliment was related to the paint scheme only. Even nicer to see the top case still there.

How much ya want for it?

Are these sold at auction in California, or what process does one follow to pick up one of these beauties? How many miles are on them when they are retired? Do they still run at retirement time?
These bikes are auctioned in several areas. I think that the CA dealer I purchased mine from had picked his bikes up at an auction in Nevada.

RT-P's from the CHP are usually turned in with 60k miles. Both of the other ones at the dealer had just a little over 60k on them. The one I bought had 47k and change. Maybe this was the result of the change-over between the 1100's and the 1150's, that this one was turned in for "consistency in the fleet" as opposed to mileage.

RT-P's are sproradically available at dealers such as Cal BMW: http://calmoto.com/motorcycle_specials/used.html
A&S BMW: http://www.ultimadesigns.com/client/...ename=preowned
http://www.ultimadesigns.com/client/...ename=preowned
and sometimes (although not currently) at BMW of Fresno:
http://www.bmwoffresno.com/preowned....6c105d66b3cf96

There is also a guy on eBay, down in Canoga Park CA who seems to sell a bunch of ex-police bikes, including RT-P's (but apparently none currently):
http://stores.ebay.com/HOLLYWOOD-MOTORS
Keep looking on eBay or for used ones at your local BMW dealers. There typically seem to be lots of them out there.

Regarding "Do they still run at retirement time", my answer from personal experience is emphatically YES. Other than routine service, the only issues I have had with mine was a blown fork seal and a bad aux battery. These bikes are very well maintained by BMW dealers or other specialists during their authorities service. I also heard that at the end of their "professional" career, they are brought back to BMW and fully serviced before they are auctioned off for civilian use.

I have also heard that it is better to purchase an ex-Authorities bike from a Highway Patrol entity as opposed to one from a local metro police force. BMWs seem to do better with highway miles as opposed to city miles. Also be a little wary of ex-authorities bikes with really low mileage. These might be the bikes which are used only for training, and I hear that those tend to get beaten/dropped significantly more than those which are out on street patrol.

Hope this helps,
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I'd love to see a photo (photos?) of your RTP before you repaint it. This is intriguing, as we don't have motor LEOs here in Ohio (other than some local city/county PDs that use Harleys). Certainly no LEO BMWs in Ohio that I'm aware of.

I'm also intrigued by the idea of having a retired RTP and leaving it as "official-looking" as possible, for all the traffic/safety benefits. It might prevent that one guy from turning in front of me...
That's exactly how I had mine with strobes, siren and speaker etc... the only thing I was missing was the radio w PA system.


Oh to come back on your comments...Traffic might not be as you like it as I was almost ran off the expressway (before I triggered the Siren) by a pick up truck.
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That's exactly how I had mine with strobes, siren and speaker etc... the only thing I was missing was the radio w PA system.

Oh to come back on your comments...Traffic might not be as you like it as I was almost ran off the expressway (before I triggered the Siren) by a pick up truck.
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Thank you for the photos.

Did they leave that equipment on the bike when it was sold, or did you add it back on to make it look more "authorities"?

Lights and siren on a retired RT-P? Sweet... I'd be arrested on Day 2 of owning that set up -- for impersonating an officer. But nice while it lasted.

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I'm more familar with the front view of that bike, usually in my rear-view mirrors. That reminds me, I need to make another HDDC ride soon. Of course, I don't know if my ol' LT can keep up with all those fancy new bikes up that way.

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I didn't think you could ride one with the blue & red lights as a civilian. Interesting.

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You can ride them just don't light them up ,we have a lot of harley police bikes in my area.
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I know that the above comment was tongue-in-cheek, but at least in CA you can't even have them (uncovered) even if you don't light them up, if the vehicle is not an "in service emergency vehicle". Now there are lots of folks who collect historic Highway Patrol cars, police bikes, ambulances, fire engines, etc, which still have their Code 3 equipment in place. This is acceptable on a historic vehicle, as long as it is not used illegally on public roadways (only allowed during a parade or a suitable club event, typically with real police in attendance to provide an escort). However when driving to or from an event you essentially need to:

1) Cover any red or blue front-facing lights, and
2) Electrically disconnect any siren such that it cannot be conveniently made operable from within the cab of the vehicle (usually by pulling a fuse or disconnecting a wire within the engine compartment).

Normally you won't be hassled in a really old vehicle as it would be pretty difficult for John Q. Public to think that that 1955 Chevrolet Highway Patrol car is actually pulling him over. But would the standard citizen differentiate between that R1100RT-P and say to himself "that can't be a real cop since they all ride 1150's by now"? As such, it is best to remove any red or blue lights from RT-P's, or at least make sure that they are well covered when on public roadways. You have been warned.

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I'm new to the site as of tonight. I bought a lowered (as low as it can go) 1996 R1100RT. I'm loving it, but did drop it several times at low speeds (I bought it after riding a Honda Rebel 250 for a few hundred miles to learn some basic skills, so it was quite a change).....but I find it's very easier to ride, once it's rolling anyway.... (early on, I dropped the bike a few times, mostly at stops, and once when starting......the first time with a loaded bike, and I hadn't adjusted to the clutch yet....apparently shifting on some of the older BMW's takes some getting used to....

Mine came with some kind of crash (engine ??) protector (have know idea what to call it.... I'm a lady, rather new to the sport, and don't know all the lingo yet). I wasn't aware of being able to put any sort of crash bars on it. Are these just available for the police model, or can they be put on the R1100RT. .

On my first ride out, I dropped the bike twice (so glad I found a used one), so decided I'd put the saddle bags on to act as some sort of crash protection, figuring they'd be a lot cheaper to replace than fixing a broken leg, or something worse..

Another issue, I find that my dim lights don't work well. Not sure if a better bulb can be installed, or if it's because the bike is so low. I try not to ride after dark, but sometimes things happen and you get caught. If I adjust the lights any higher, they brights will be shining in the trees.

If you're tinking about riding 2-up, I hope neither you nor your passenger are very tall. Before my husband bought his most recent bikes (1st the Honda ST1100 and now the ST1300), each time we seriously considered buying one of the R____RT (something newer than mine, maybe the 1150 since I believe the R1200RT's are newest). But after travelling as his passenger on the ST1300's (which seem to be more spacious than my RT), I felt very cramped riding on the back of my BMW R1100RT.. He's 6 ft tall and I'm not quite 5'3" tall, with short legs. So you might want to consider that before installing a rear seat on your police model. Maybe a custom seat would help.

I'm also trying to find a cheap (at least a basic) communcation system that would be compatible with what's on my husband's bike. His has a CB radio with AM/FM and weather radio, and an intercom system (don't ask me the Brand....my husband is asleep and I don't want to uncover the bike, etc)....he plugs an MP# player into into that. The speakers and Mic's installed in our helmets....

Best of luck with your new bike. if any of yu have any ideas about my isues, let me know..
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Wow Ally,

The R-RT is really going to be a handful for any newer rider, especially a petite one! You sound like quite a trooper!

I think that the "crash protector" you refer to might be a pair of cylinder head protectors, something like these:
http://www.calmoto.com/SHOP/cylinderheadprotectors.html
These basically keep the cylinder heads from getting scuffed/scratched up during drops.

I am not aware that you can directly mount the crash bars on your bike which are used on the RT-P's (although I have never taken the tupperware off a civilian RT to see if the mounting brackets are there). I have attached a photo of an ex-RT-P without the front crash bars. You will note a round, dark mount point under the BMW roundel, just in front of the cylinder head. This is one of the mounting points for the RT-P's front crashbars. I don't know whether your bike has these, and if it did you would have to drill through the plastic to access it, probably not something you want to do.

Instead you can practice, practice, practice on your new, or any other bike. Find a big parking lot which isn't used on weekends and do lots of slow-speed work. It really doesn't matter what bike you use for this - you just have to get all of your balance reactions coordinated. I stopped riding for 10 years after an m/c accident (took on a left turner - lost), and instead did a LOT of mountain and road bicycling. When I climbed back onto motorcycles after 10 years, I actually felt like I had become a better rider. Being clipped into bicycle pedals causes you to develop pretty good balance skills (or to invest in a lot of bandages for your cut-up legs), and that translated directly to M/C riding. Please get a lot of slow speed practice in before you get out for any tours on your new bike!

Also, are you riding with full protective gear? With the issues you are currently having, you will really benefit from wearing all the gear all the time (ATGATT). A good pair of M/C specific boots will help you not slip when putting your foot down, will not have laces which can catch on things and prevent you from getting your foot down, and may help protect you from breaking or twisting an ankle. Good overpants, gloves and jacket will protect from road rash, and I'm sure there is no need to tell you about getting a real helmet.

Plus I would really keep yourself from riding at night right now. There are a lot of very experienced riders who just won't ride at night. Things come up fast out of a dark roadway and even with their skills they see it as too much of a risk. And you have discovered that the RT's don't have the best of lighting. One quick and easy fix is to go down to your local autoparts store and buy a better bulb. Your bike uses a standard "H4" bulb, and a lot of folks swear by the SilverStar (Slyvania? Philips?) bulbs for more light output. I think that the stock bulbs are 60w low/55w high beam. Some riders put in higher wattage bulbs (like 80/100w), but then you need to worry about the wiring handling that extra load, and even melting your headlamp module. So I would recommend getting a new bulb with the same wattage as your current one, and ask at the parts store if any are brighter than others. Then make sure the headlamp is aimed correctly. This information should be in your riders or service manual which came with the bike.

Later you can do a search on adding relays to headlights. Relays in and of themselves can allow more power to reach the headlamp bulb, and give you more brightness than the stock wiring will. Then there are add-on PIAA or Motolights auxilliary lights which you might later install for real brightness.

Sorry I don't have the knowledge about Com systems, so I'll let someone else have that one.

So congrats and good luck on your new bike. And please practice, practice, practice on it, and let us know how you are doing.

Tom
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I know that the above comment was tongue-in-cheek, but at least in CA you can't even have them (uncovered) even if you don't light them up, if the vehicle is not an "in service emergency vehicle".
As such, it is best to remove any red or blue lights from RT-P's, or at least make sure that they are well covered when on public roadways. You have been warned.
Same here in Louisiana. No red or blue lights facing forward, no blue on the back. I replaced the PAR 36 strobes in the mounts by the windshield of my 98 R1100RT-P with clear driving lamps but I can't recall if those are a potential problem here for being above the headlight. Haven't had an LEO question me about it so far. I also reinstalled a siren speaker and amp on the bike (airhorn only). It's illegal to have a siren on your vehicle (anti-theft alarm excepted) but there's no problem with an electronic airhorn. Really wakes up those lane crowders! I have my RT-P still in it's original CHiP black and white color scheme and had a decal shop make me a star for the fairing in place of the CHiP emblem. Same size CHiP star but with the BMW emblem in the center. It really looks great and is a tip-O-the-hat to its former life.

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Here's a photo I took of an RT-P at BMW of Cleveland yesterday. It's a retired authorities bike from the San Diego PD. It is completely "as is" except the radio and decals have been removed. I took several other photos and a couple of video clips with lights on. I LOVED the police horn (not the siren); definitely gets one's attention.

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I shoot with a Nikon digital SLR, so my pics come out huge. I use the Mihov Image Resizer, and cut them down to about 600 pixels wide. The program is freeware, and pretty intuitive. Find it here for downloading:
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I shoot with a Nikon digital SLR, so my pics come out huge. I use the Mihov Image Resizer, and cut them down to about 600 pixels wide. The program is freeware, and pretty intuitive. Find it here for downloading:
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Tom - perfect! I did the DL and resized the photos. Nice.

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