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post #1 of 11 Old Dec 14th, 2009, 11:22 pm Thread Starter
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sidestand switch on k1100lt?

Can anybody send me a pic of the sidestand switch on a k1100lt or of one like it.
I think something is broke or missing. The bike won't start unless the clutch is pulled in and the kickstand is up.
The switch arm is open when it should be closed, (sidestand down)
Anyway, a picture is worth alot of words. any help would be great...Thanks....Steve
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Re: sidestand switch on k1100lt?

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I think something is broke or missing. The bike won't start unless the clutch is pulled in and the kickstand is up.

What's the problem ?

The bike shouldn't start unless the side stand is up and the clutch is pulled in.
You shouldn't need the clutch if the bike is in neutral.

But the SIDE STAND MUST BE UP TO START THE BIKE ANYTIME....

My CLC will crank with the side stand down but not start. The LT shouldn't even crank with the sidestand down.

If you've got it in neutral and on the CENTER stand the bike should start.
If not then you need to look at the neutral switch..


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Re: sidestand switch on k1100lt?

I am trying to recall, but, Im thinking that this switch you are talking about was a paddle switch mounted to 2 of the centerstand bolts with the wires running under the engine to the right side frame tube behind the footplate and side cover. The colors should be green and green/red with a connector in that area. What we did with a problem was to use a 3m connector on the harness/ top side of the connector and fooled the system into thinking everthing was good. The connector is somewhere behind the side cover on the right.
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Re: sidestand switch on k1100lt?

So your telling me that this is the way it was set up, you can't warm up the bike with it on the side stand?
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Re: sidestand switch on k1100lt?

I cant remember for sure, but i think it will run on sidestand, but quit when attempting to put in gear with sidestand down, hard to remember everything.
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Re: sidestand switch on k1100lt?

your correct about everything except about it running on the side stand. That is the complaint. It won't start on the side stand. I don't know if it will run on the side stand or not. I'll put it back together and find out after work today. Thank you John and dgoodbmw, I never thought about it being designed that way.......Steve
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Re: sidestand switch on k1100lt?

I just did a google search on k1100lt sidestand switches and got a multitude of posts with various info as to function, disabling and testing. probably your answer is there somewhere.
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Re: sidestand switch on k1100lt?

You shouldn't start or warm it up on the sidestand anyway... It's just too dangerous.
Could vibrate off...
Then there's the issue of oil circulation. The oil would tend to pool up in the top end of the motor if running on the sidestand...Gravity is the only thing used to get the oil back to the pan..

I'm fairly sure you want to warm it up on the centerstand.....BMW says it doesn't need to warm up. Just start it up and ride off.. I always warm it up a little before I ride though.
But just a few seconds with me astride the bike.

Harley's and a lot of other bikes have the engine turned the other way so it's not as critical.


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your correct about everything except about it running on the side stand. That is the complaint. It won't start on the side stand. I don't know if it will run on the side stand or not. I'll put it back together and find out after work today. Thank you John and dgoodbmw, I never thought about it being designed that way.......Steve
It will not run or start with the side stand down. It's a safety feature that disables the Motronic so you don't ride off with the side stand down.

You can find the connector under the seat and just short it if you want it to be able to run with the side stand deployed.

If the switch isn't getting properly depressed when you retract the side stand then a simple fix is to slide a small section of vacuum hose over the tang that depresses the switch. This depresses the switch better.
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Re: sidestand switch on k1100lt?

I do not know about the k1100, but on my LT, I tried this out yesterday. I took the bike off of the center stand and put the side stand down. It started with no problems.

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Re: sidestand switch on k1100lt?

+1 on the response from Flying Duck. It was installed by BMW because the side stand does not automatically retract when weight is removed from the side stand, as it did in previous models. If you forget to manually retract it, take off & lean it to that side, the stand will make contact with the ground & you will do a pole vault like maneuver, which is less than graceful.
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